Back in the early 90's, a friend of mine used to use a range which was almost identical to Liz Earle - I'm assuming this was before Liz Earle was launched. It was packaged in very similar style, made from very similar ingredients - I wish I could remember the name of it. You could only buy it from certain salons and I would occasionally treat myself to it. I was so glad when LE brought out a very similar product range and I use quite a few of her products, apart from the eye products. Absolutely love LE.