Sbc tsv 26/08/2014

[Akimbo]

Some interesting advice from you all, thank you very much.
The dressing is off it's just the outline where the sticky was thats the bit getting to me. I can deal with the scar but hadn't given any thought on how to reduce the look of the scar so thank you.

I tell you I was drugged up to my eyeballs in hospital but by heck what an experience. I was assaulted during the middle of the night by an older lady who was obviously confused and started thumping me on my bad leg saying " fred I told you to get out of bed" although I felt sorry for her I felt more sorry for me because the pain got worse.

Another early morning all hell broke out when we heared " what do you mean you've lost your eye, have you rubbed it out in your sleep" the nurses were running around, the cleaners the same, the auxiliaries and basically everyone they could find were looking for this eye. Of course some of the staff kept coming to our side of the ward making eye jokes, or having to come around to laugh then get a straight face again. They got all the dirty laundry out went through all the bins.....it went on for over an hour. Someone then decided they better ring her husband to let him know and all we heard from the nurse was " what do you mean, it's in a box at the side of her bed, there isn't a box there, oh, you mean at home because she never had it in when she was addmitted" well the place erupted.
That was just on AAU, thankfully I had a room to myself when I eventually went for the op, done and discharged within 24 hours....all for me to have two falls at home the following morning.

It was an experience lets put it that way.

Oh Sharon this reads like Carry on Doctor or one of the Doctor in the House films! If you weren't in the thick of it trying to get comfortable it'd be funny. You'll have enough material to write a sitcom!

Seriously though, I hope you make good progress, you've been through the wars!

 

[warwa100]

does SBC stuff sink in quickly and do you reckon this TSV would help my skin and bruised area?

The gels sink in so quickly because they are water based and I find they are none sticky too.
Also, the Arnica is sooo good for bruising.

 

[Autumn]

For all the Craig Fans :mysmilie_843: , heres Craig showing us the SBC TSV in his flat , Check out all his Free Yankee candles behind him :mysmilie_59:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxyis5nttHc&feature=youtu.be

 

[sharonk]

Hi Jude, at times I really did expect Barbara Windsor to walk in.......

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

Auto-Delivery SBC 5 Piece Favourites Shower & Gel Collection
http://www.qvcuk.com/ukqic/qvcapp.aspx/app.detail/params.item.207140

its live now

 

[warwa100]

Still not buying this kit, but do really want the two bath & shower products

 

[Vienna]

I`ll go for this one. I need propolis gel because my current bottle is almost at the bottom and this contains a 500 ml bottle. I`m ok for collagen gel at the moment but I`ll just stockpile it and use it over the next 12 months. I`ve never tried SBC shower creams or gels so this will be a good way to try them and my OH uses the arnica gel. The price isn`t too bad considering a 250 ml of the propolis on its own is £18.50 plus p and p.

 

[thatu]

Just ordered the TSV because we're nearly out of our last SBC shower and collagen gels and I wanted the arnica gel anyway. Looking forward to trying the propolis products. I think SBC is really good vfm and the 500ml is a more manageable size for us than the 1 litre.

 

[miss molly]

Why have they put the Collagen gel in again after the last one has 1 Litre, do they think we drink the stuff.

 

[MistyMoo]

Did you hear SG say that 5 x 500mls was 4.5 litres and the 500ml of propolis gel had never been available before? She then kept banging on about how QVC were the second most trusted brand in the country... :tongue:

 

[sharonk]

Well I've ordered plus the trio of collagen shower creams, I didn't order the huge sizes because I get bored and like a change

 

[louise66]

I have enough of the gels but, even to buy this for the shower gels, is more than worth the tsv price. Haven't decided yet, though.

 

[MrMarple]

I have enough of the gels but, even to buy this for the shower gels, is more than worth the tsv price. Haven't decided yet, though.

Hi Louise,
Do you happen to know SBC's stance on animal testing at all?

Thanks

All I could find on their website was this, but it's hardly conclusive if you ask me:-

ARE ANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS TESTED ON ANIMALS? SBC has taken pride in being at the very forefront of environmentally aware product production for over 15 years. Always acutely aware of customer expectation, the company embraced a no animal testing policy for the SBC range of products from its inception. The company also only uses high quality natural active ingredients that offer a holistic solution to a range of facial, body and soothing skincare conditions. This, combined with minimal packaging fulfils many of the requirements of the consumer that demands "eco-friendly" beauty.

 

[Scout]

ARE ANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS TESTED ON ANIMALS? SBC has taken pride in being at the very forefront of environmentally aware product production for over 15 years. Always acutely aware of customer expectation, the company embraced a no animal testing policy for the SBC range of products from its inception. The company also only uses high quality natural active ingredients that offer a holistic solution to a range of facial, body and soothing skincare conditions. This, combined with minimal packaging fulfils many of the requirements of the consumer that demands "eco-friendly" beauty.

Doesn't mean anything other than that they don't test the finished products on animals - and as they're prevented from doing that by law they don't deserve any brownie points for it. They are not endorsed by Cruelty Free International, so don't merit the Leaping Bunny logo, and this blurb gives no information about the testing of the ingredients. nor does it specify that they don't use animal-derived ingredients. I've emailed for information a few times over the years. The first time they responded with the "don't test our products" line, but as soon as I pressed them on their ingredients and protocols they stopped replying. There's certainly nothing to suggest they're cruelty-free - which is a shame because if they were I'd try them.

 

[QuiteVacuousChat]

Mind been boggled by pondering the sheer quantity of gloop if one orders the TSV on regular delivery. 5 drops at 90 day intervals.... Wonder if we'll be able to spot the slug-like trails as SBC customers slither down the street

 

[warwa100]

5 drops at 90 day intervals....

Is this real? 5 drops of this TSV? That's a lot of drops to have to same products in!

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

Is this real? 5 drops of this TSV? That's a lot of drops to have to same products in!

well thats what they said on air but on the website it says

"Want to stock up on these bath and body treats?
Choose our Auto Delivery option and receive this collection once every 90 days for a 12-month period at Today’s Special Value Price."

which is only 4 drops

though they said 5 drops on the Alpha H one but thats "Choose our Auto Delivery option and receive this collection every 90 days for one year, at Today’s Special Value Price."

only 4 drops too

 

[louise66]

Hi Louise,
Do you happen to know SBC's stance on animal testing at all?

Thanks

All I could find on their website was this, but it's hardly conclusive if you ask me:-

ARE ANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS TESTED ON ANIMALS? SBC has taken pride in being at the very forefront of environmentally aware product production for over 15 years. Always acutely aware of customer expectation, the company embraced a no animal testing policy for the SBC range of products from its inception. The company also only uses high quality natural active ingredients that offer a holistic solution to a range of facial, body and soothing skincare conditions. This, combined with minimal packaging fulfils many of the requirements of the consumer that demands "eco-friendly" beauty.

MM, if I had proof positive that any product, cosmetic or other, or had any doubt that it had been animal tested, there is absolutely no way I could, in all conscience, use it. I have done some factual research into the company policy, not just read the basic philosophy. As the ingredients are all natural and plant derived, there is no necessity to test the products on animals. Eco friendly, whilst admirable, means nothing in reference to animal testing, so I ignore this. Again, the basic packaging keeps the prices low but, essentially, has nothing to do with testing.
I am satisfied that neither the individual ingredients, or the finished products are tested on animals. If I find out to the contrary, I shall have no hesitation in posting the updated info on this forum.
More and more consumers are beginning to care that many companies actually inflict pain and suffering, even death, upon animals to cater to the vanity of the target market. ultimately, however, how can we be 100% positive that any product is animal friendly? Even those endorsed by Peta, or with the leaping bunny logo, only have to prove to the testing organisations for the period of observance into testing methods, that no animal testing has occurred. There are ways and means; they are not supposed to know who is executing the watch, and when. There is always a way to get round anything.
We have to trust, fundamentally, the information we have access to. I always research everything before I use it, and it's parent company, and any other corporation which has any connection with it.

 

[Vienna]

Mine arrived today and I was out so the Hermes guy left it around the back of the house. I must say SBC had really well packaged it. The outer box had a big dent in it and the bottom of the box looked as if it had been mangled and I thought something was bound to be damaged or punctured but the contents were really securely packaged. Each bottle upright and unable to fall over or be damaged because of the moulded cardboard container inside the outer box. Well done SBC, other companies should take heed.

 

[Scout]

MM, if I had proof positive that any product, cosmetic or other, or had any doubt that it had been animal tested, there is absolutely no way I could, in all conscience, use it. I have done some factual research into the company policy, not just read the basic philosophy. As the ingredients are all natural and plant derived, there is no necessity to test the products on animals.

Not true I'm afraid. Just because something is "natural" doesn't mean it's safe. Likewise, just because something is plant-derived doesn't mean it's safe. There are many plant-derived ingredients that have been proven to be toxic to humans, which is why these plant-derived ingredients are tested just like any other. Ghastly experiments are done on animals to establish their toxicity, potential to irritate etc. Photographs of what these animals go through make my heart bleed.

Plants in the Aristolochia family, for example, have been proven to cause renal failure in humans, resulting in fatalities. They have also caused renal cancers in humans and have been shown to be carcinogenic to laboratory animals.

Plant-derived ingredients will be tested for repeated dose toxicity, reproductive toxicity, toxicokinetics, skin sensitisation and carcinogenicity to name but a few. And you can be sure that most of the tests will be conducted on animals which are then killed at the end of the experiments.

You can be sure that natural and plant-derived ingredients *are* tested thoroughly before they're used in cosmetics - and SBC has consistently refused to respond to my queries about how their ingredients are tested.

. . . . .how can we be 100% positive that any product is animal friendly? Even those endorsed by Peta, or with the leaping bunny logo, only have to prove to the testing organisations for the period of observance into testing methods, that no animal testing has occurred.

Again this isn't true where Cruelty Free International is concerned. Certainly Peta's endorsement isn't worth the paper it's written on, because all a company has to do is sign a form saying they don't animal-test their ingredients and Peta accepts it. They don't do any checks at all.
Cruelty Free International, on the other hand, stipulate that each company they endorse must be open to independent audits throughout its entire supply chain to ensure that it adheres to its animal testing policy and the Standards’ strict criteria. So it isn't just the producer of the end product that's audited, all the suppliers must be able to demonstrate their cruelty-free protocols too, and it's an audit programme that continues. To be endorsed by Cruelty Free International most companies have to completely scrap their established methods of production and put in place an entirely new supply chain. It costs them money and takes time and effort. M&S, for example, changed almost all their suppliers when they went after the Leaping Bunny endorsement for their cosmetics, and it took them two years to put the new production lines in place. Gaining Cruelty Free International's endorsement is not quick or easy, and you can't pull the wool over their eyes either. If you're not genuinely committed you won't be awarded the Leaping Bunny.

We have to trust, fundamentally, the information we have access to. I always research everything before I use it, and it's parent company, and any other corporation which has any connection with it.

I'm sorry Louise, but I really think you have a very simplistic view of this issue. If there's one thing I know beyond any doubt it's that we cannot trust most of the information these companies give us. They employ people on huge salaries to fool us - wordsmiths who juggle sentences to sound the opposite of what they actually mean. We have to dissect every single thing they say, and if they make claims we have to ask for evidence. Those genuinely cruelty-free companies are only too happy to send reams of information about their production processes if you ask for it, because they're proud to be cruelty-free. If you are really on the side of the animals you won't use the products until the company has shown actual evidence that they're cruelty-free.