L'Occitane TSV - 07/12/13

[Autumn]

Looks like its the following

Shower gel 500mls( cherry , almond oil or verbena )
Liquid Soap (500mls. (lavender, sweet almond or verbena)
Shea body Lotion 250mls
Bar of soap (Rose petals, Verbena and think the warm soap is Citron clementine)
Handcream (cherry , verbena ) Not sure what the fragrance is in the warm option looks like Mango flower ?
Shower gel 75mls
Shea footcream 10mls
Shea Handcream 10mls

 

[Mazza]

Thanks Autumn. Have just been pricing on their website the things I use and the body lotion is £20, liquid soap £18 and a standard shower gel £13 so that is £51 without the rest of the supersize gel and the little bits and bobs. I am a bit disappointed in the fragrances though as there is not a lot of variety. I would rather have two different shower gels to try than one supersize. I am just starting a large cherry blossom, am not over fond of verbena so standard size would do, and have heard mixed views on this almond gel (although I do love the almond oil).

 

[Autumn]

I think I like the warm Option the best , This is much better than there last TSV , still no where near as good as the Molton Brown TSV's though.

 

[MrMarple]

Thanks Autumn. Have just been pricing on their website the things I use and the body lotion is £20, liquid soap £18 and a standard shower gel £13 so that is £51 without the rest of the supersize gel and the little bits and bobs. I am a bit disappointed in the fragrances though as there is not a lot of variety. I would rather have two different shower gels to try than one supersize. I am just starting a large cherry blossom, am not over fond of verbena so standard size would do, and have heard mixed views on this almond gel (although I do love the almond oil).

Thanks Mazza,
I just assumed it was the Almond Oil, but you're correct, it's actually the Almond Gel.
That is gonna disappoint a lot of people I think.

I don't buy L'Occitane anymore, but I have tried the Gel in the past. Didn't like it at all.
I think a lot of folks thought it was going to be the same smell as the Oil, just a different texture, but it isn't. It's vile IMO.

 

[Mazza]

Maybe L'Occitane do not produce enough of each limited edition, but it always seems a shame to me that Q concentrate so much on the standard cherry, rose, verbena items. The shops have some really nice variations and I would have thought they could spice things up at least by making the small shower gel in each set a bit unusual. I may wait for the sales and make up my own TSV, which may also include reduced Molton Brown, if JLP do not sell out of their Xmas stocks!!

 

[ollieblue]

Another dull Loccitane TSV, the usual sample sizes to justify making it a large set! The almond gel Is not very nice! A large hand cream would be better than all the small samples.

 

[Autumn]

Thanks Autumn. Have just been pricing on their website the things I use and the body lotion is £20, liquid soap £18 and a standard shower gel £13 so that is £51 without the rest of the supersize gel and the little bits and bobs. I am a bit disappointed in the fragrances though as there is not a lot of variety. I would rather have two different shower gels to try than one supersize. I am just starting a large cherry blossom, am not over fond of verbena so standard size would do, and have heard mixed views on this almond gel (although I do love the almond oil).

I didn't even realise they did a Almond shower gel I just thought it was the Oil , Bit sneaky having them in such similar bottles. Im having second thoughts over this TSV now, I guess it will depend how much under £45 it is.

 

[Weathergirl]

A definite "no" from me.

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

I get what you're saying but not sure how it would help in practice. I buy coop brand toothpaste, washing powder etc because its certified cruelty free. If I were to boycott coop because as well as selling own brand cruelty free products they sell brands that are not certified, I think that leaves no option but to buy from somewhere that has no cruelty free brands at all as I don't know if a store exists that solely sells cruelty free goods. If there is one is id love to know. I buy most of my household and toiletries online from websites that specialise in cruelty free ranges.

Well I guess on top of knowing that the product you use is not tested on animals, the next logical step for some may be to not actively support companies that sell products that do.

It is a bit like the Dennis Basso situation whereby QVC do not sell fur items by him, but he does in other countries, which makes some people want to boycott all products made by him. Okay there is a difference between boycotting products made by him and boycotting QVC altogether - but there is an undeniable link there.

How do consumers know that products companies sell as being cruelty-free are not manufactured by the same company that also manufactures non cruelty-free ranges. I would hope the BUAV are on the ball with this point, did they not remove Liz Earle's bunny logo when Avon bought her company?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Hubby usually gets the L'Occitane TSV for me for Christmas.

Don't like the Almond Shower Oil, but what is the Shower Gel like Please?

 

[NIKKID]

Pity you couldn't mix and match! Only like the verbena liquid soap but like some of the other floral fragrances!

 

[Scout]

How do consumers know that products companies sell as being cruelty-free are not manufactured by the same company that also manufactures non cruelty-free ranges. I would hope the BUAV are on the ball with this point, did they not remove Liz Earle's bunny logo when Avon bought her company?

BUAV didn't withdraw Liz Earle's accreditation when she sold to Avon because, they say, Liz Earle products are still completely cruelty-free. They do, though, always state that the company is owned by Avon and that Avon is "not approved under the Humane Cosmetics Standard". Personally I think LE should have had the accreditation withdrawn, because if you buy LE you're contributing to the profits of Avon, but at least people are being given the facts so they can make an informed decision as to whether to buy LE. The situation is the same with Melvita, which is accredited, and the parent company L'Occitane, which has had accreditation withdrawn since choosing to sell into China.

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

BUAV didn't withdraw Liz Earle's accreditation when she sold to Avon because, they say, Liz Earle products are still completely cruelty-free. They do, though, always state that the company is owned by Avon and that Avon is "not approved under the Humane Cosmetics Standard". Personally I think LE should have had the accreditation withdrawn, because if you buy LE you're contributing to the profits of Avon, but at least people are being given the facts so they can make an informed decision as to whether to buy LE. The situation is the same with Melvita, which is accredited, and the parent company L'Occitane, which has had accreditation withdrawn since choosing to sell into China.

It is a very Grey area.

You are right at least the Buav state these facts, but you have to go looking for them. The logo appears on the products for all to see. I too think they should have withdrawn it.

Lots of people will not go looking for that further information. I suspect there are loads of Liz Earle users who are still unaware of the Avon buy out and it does not help when QVC are still showing promos of Liz and her partner ( who left over a year ago!) like it is still a wholesome family/friends owned business.

 

[spartacus]

As others have said, the go cruelty free website does indicate if a certified company has a parent company who is not. Even if a certified company had an uncertified parent I'd still chose the certified subsidiary over an alternative company who has no certification in its ownership at all. I know Liz Earle brand gets knocked for being owned by Avon, but I'd still rank Liz Earle which is certified even though Avon parent is not, above l'occitane, mally, decleor and just about every other beauty brand on qvc as they are not certified.

 

[Autumn]

Well I guess on top of knowing that the product you use is not tested on animals, the next logical step for some may be to not actively support companies that sell products that do.

It is a bit like the Dennis Basso situation whereby QVC do not sell fur items by him, but he does in other countries, which makes some people want to boycott all products made by him. Okay there is a difference between boycotting products made by him and boycotting QVC altogether - but there is an undeniable link there.

How do consumers know that products companies sell as being cruelty-free are not manufactured by the same company that also manufactures non cruelty-free ranges. I would hope the BUAV are on the ball with this point, did they not remove Liz Earle's bunny logo when Avon bought her company?

You make an interesting point regarding Qvc , as they sell items by brands that do test on animals and of course the awful Basso, it makes Qvc just as bad in theory.

 

[spartacus]

Well I guess on top of knowing that the product you use is not tested on animals, the next logical step for some may be to not actively support companies that sell products that do.

It is a bit like the Dennis Basso situation whereby QVC do not sell fur items by him, but he does in other countries, which makes some people want to boycott all products made by him. Okay there is a difference between boycotting products made by him and boycotting QVC altogether - but there is an undeniable link there.

How do consumers know that products companies sell as being cruelty-free are not manufactured by the same company that also manufactures non cruelty-free ranges. I would hope the BUAV are on the ball with this point, did they not remove Liz Earle's bunny logo when Avon bought her company?

I think i understand your point, that despite buying from companies that sell certified cruelty free brands if the company also sells non-certified brands I'm still lining the pockets of companies who 'condone' testing. But I still fail to see how you envisage boycotting would work in practice - take the Coop for example. I think they were the first supermarket to achieve cruelty free certification on their own brand toiletry and household goods, which is what i buy. Apologies if I'm interpreting your post incorrectly, but it seems to me the suggestion Is i should not do any shopping at coop because despite carrying own brand certified goods they also sell procter and gamble products for example therefore ideally I'd shop elsewhere. Where though? Can anyone suggest a supermarket that doesn't sell any uncertified brands? Coop are still going to get my custom over a company who has made no efforts regarding cruelty free.

 

[Weathergirl]

The last time I checked out Mally on beautypedia her products were stated as not tested on animals. This is reinforced on Mally's own website under the FAQ section. However it also states there that the products are not all suitable for Vegans because some of then contain animal by-products.

Edit :I was commenting on Spartacus post. This would be why Mally products are not certified, I guess.

 

[spartacus]

The last time I checked out Mally on beautypedia her products were stated as not tested on animals. This is reinforced on Mally's own website under the FAQ section. However it also states there that the products are not all suitable for Vegans because some of then contain animal by-products.

Edit :I was commenting on Spartacus post. This would be why Mally products are not certified, I guess.

The mally website only mentions products though. With cruelty free certification it means neither products nor ingredients have been tested by the company, ingredient suppliers or a third party, and they're subject to independent audit to verify. For me personally that certification seems to be the most reliable in giving confidence over cruelty free status. I don't want to rely on a company's own ambiguous statement- some brands state on their products 'against animal testing' - it doesn't mean they or others on their behalf don't do it. Similarly 'we don't test our products on animals' could mean they don't but pay someone else to do it, or the finished product isn't tested but the ingredients or prototypes are. At least with cruelty free certification its clear what the standards are.

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

I think i understand your point, that despite buying from companies that sell certified cruelty free brands if the company also sells non-certified brands I'm still lining the pockets of companies who 'condone' testing. But I still fail to see how you envisage boycotting would work in practice - take the Coop for example. I think they were the first supermarket to achieve cruelty free certification on their own brand toiletry and household goods, which is what i buy. Apologies if I'm interpreting your post incorrectly, but it seems to me the suggestion Is i should not do any shopping at coop because despite carrying own brand certified goods they also sell procter and gamble products for example therefore ideally I'd shop elsewhere. Where though? Can anyone suggest a supermarket that doesn't sell any uncertified brands? Coop are still going to get my custom over a company who has made no efforts regarding cruelty free.

No I am not judging you or anyone else on where you choose to shop - It is your choice.

And good on the Co-op and other stores for offering their customers just that - a choice.

I am not making any suggestion as to where you or others should shop - I am merely musing on the subject on a public discussion forum. Like I said earlier in this post I genuinely applaud people who make active choices based on their beliefs.

 

[Flamingo]

I am so over l'occitane. Over priced and over hyped. The hand cream is nice, shall give them that, but I am so over spending £50 on a bit of soap.