L'Occitane TSV - 07/12/13

[Weathergirl]

They still have Mint Verbena products on L'Occitane's own website Weathergirl.....

I am now £59 poorer. Got another bottle of the mint verbena EDT and a cooling body gel. Used paypal balance from ebay sales so . A huge thank you suzy_pie

 

[MinxyKitten]

Just a reminder for those who care - L'Occitane has had its cruelty-free accreditation withdrawn by Cruelty-Free International because it has chosen to sell into China, knowing that its products will now be tested on animals in that country.

I have stopped buying due to this. There are many other brands out there, just as good, to justify boycotting them.

 

[suzy_pie]

I am now £59 poorer. Got another bottle of the mint verbena EDT and a cooling body gel. Used paypal balance from ebay sales so . A huge thank you suzy_pie

Great - really glad I could help. Sorry about the £59 though....!

 

[MrMarple]

Just a reminder for those who care - L'Occitane has had its cruelty-free accreditation withdrawn by Cruelty-Free International because it has chosen to sell into China, knowing that its products will now be tested on animals in that country.

I have stopped buying due to this. There are many other brands out there, just as good, to justify boycotting them.

Yep, me too MinxyKitten.
Shame as I love the hand cream, but I like the Liz Earle one just as much so I'm buying that instead now.

 

[boffy]

as much as l'occy do a nice handcream liz earles is far superior imo

 

[Weathergirl]

Have to admit to loving my l'occy shea handcream. I have not found one that compares. I have others around my home at various sinks. The Judith Williams phytominerals is very good. So it the Decleor one. I tend to use those for the day and the L'occy one at night. Not tried the Liz Earle one yet.

I am secretly a fan of the one by my kitchen sink. Lidl SOS handcream. It's cheap and its fab!

 

[PEBE]

Hi there, just wondered if anyone had any idea of what was going to be in this TSV ? I know it will be a choice of fragrances but not sure of content. I am hoping to get this for a couple as a Christmas present.

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

Hi there, just wondered if anyone had any idea of what was going to be in this TSV ? I know it will be a choice of fragrances but not sure of content. I am hoping to get this for a couple as a Christmas present.

best to ask a week before is the best time for me to find it

 

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by Scout

Just a reminder for those who care - L'Occitane has had its cruelty-free accreditation withdrawn by Cruelty-Free International because it has chosen to sell into China, knowing that its products will now be tested on animals in that country.

Originally Posted by MinxyKitten

I have stopped buying due to this. There are many other brands out there, just as good, to justify boycotting them.
Yep, me too MinxyKitten.
Shame as I love the hand cream, but I like the Liz Earle one just as much so I'm buying that instead now.

That's when I stopped buying L'Occitane too. Now I buy M&S own brand handcreams - for scented ones I currently like their Cowley Manor Awaken and Ragdale Hall ones.

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

With regards to buying from M&S and Superdrug because they have Cruelty-Free accreditation don't these companies also sell beauty products ( and make profit ) from brands that do sell in China and consequently do Animal Testing?

Similarly if you buy your Liz Earle from Boots or John Lewis?

Granted the actual company may not, but the retailer you buy from does sell products along side that do!

 

[MrMarple]

With regards to buying from M&S and Superdrug because they have Cruelty-Free accreditation don't these companies also sell beauty products ( and make profit ) from brands that do sell in China and consequently do Animal Testing?

Similarly if you buy your Liz Earle from Boots or John Lewis?

Granted the actual company may not, but the retailer you buy from does sell products along side that do!

I honestly don't know the ins and outs of it, but I only buy from companies that are BUAV accredited.
(Generally, Liz Earle, Superdrug & The Co-op).

I know that if a company makes a product in China it can still be cruelty free until the item is actually sold in China IFSWIM?


This is worth reading I think

http://www.buav.org/our-campaigns/gocrueltyfree/

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

I honestly don't know the ins and outs of it, but I only buy from companies that are BUAV accredited.
(Generally, Liz Earle, Superdrug & The Co-op).

I know that if a company makes a product in China it can still be cruelty free until the item is actually sold in China IFSWIM?


This is worth reading I think

http://www.buav.org/our-campaigns/gocrueltyfree/

Yeah okay so you are happier using a product/formulation that has accreditation as not being tested on animals. Fair enough I completely understand that and maybe that is as far as you or anyone else want to take it.

But if you purchase that product from a retailer that also sells products that do, then that retailer makes money by selling products that do test on animals, and if you object to that perhaps it would be more preferable to not give any of your money to them? Or maybe that logic is taking things too far?

Even more complicated if the company you buy from doesn't but the brands parent company/owners do. Thus you are indirectly supporting that said company.

I guess I am just saying it is very complicated. I mean do you/others boycott mainstream Washing Powders/Gels because they are made by a huge company that sells many beauty brands in China?

I think it is a bit of a mind-field tbh and like I said maybe knowing a formulation of a product you enjoy using has not been tested on animals anywhere in the world is enough!?

 

[MrMarple]

Yeah okay so you are happier using a product/formulation that has accreditation as not being tested on animals. Fair enough I completely understand that and maybe that is as far as you or anyone else want to take it.

But if you purchase that product from a retailer that also sells products that do, then that retailer makes money by selling products that do test on animals, and if you object to that perhaps it would be more preferable to not give any of your money to them? Or maybe that logic is taking things too far?

Even more complicated if the company you buy from doesn't but the brands parent company/owners do. Thus you are indirectly supporting that said company.

I guess I am just saying it is very complicated. I mean do you/others boycott mainstream Washing Powders/Gels because they are made by a huge company that sells many beauty brands in China?

I think it is a bit of a mind-field tbh and like I said maybe knowing a formulation of a product you enjoy using has not been tested on animals anywhere in the world is enough!?

I totally agree with you HIAJ.
For example, I buy all my household cleaning products from The Co-op (own brand), which is BUAV approved, BUT, The Co-op also sell other products, (Surf, Fairy for example), that do test on animals, so it's very difficult to know where to draw the line.
I just live in hope that if everyone only bought BUAV approved products, then the other brands would cease to exist if you see where I'm coming from?
It's just from a personal point of view, I can't justify buying a product when I know animals have suffered in it's manufacture.
My main argument is, 'Do we not have enough products at our disposal by now?'
If we do, there should be no need for the practice to continue. I hope I'm making sense and not rambling too much?

 

[HYPE in a JAR]

I totally agree with you HIAJ.
For example, I buy all my household cleaning products from The Co-op (own brand), which is BUAV approved, BUT, The Co-op also sell other products, (Surf, Fairy for example), that do test on animals, so it's very difficult to know where to draw the line.
I just live in hope that if everyone only bought BUAV approved products, then the other brands would cease to exist if you see where I'm coming from?
It's just from a personal point of view, I can't justify buying a product when I know animals have suffered in it's manufacture.
My main argument is, 'Do we not have enough products at our disposal by now?'
If we do, there should be no need for the practice to continue. I hope I'm making sense and not rambling too much?

Yeah you make perfect sense! I really applaud you for having your beliefs and making educated choices in line with those beliefs. I think you do have to draw the line somewhere. I think it would absolutely make a difference if more and more people bought only Buav-approved products, but perhaps only if the companies that make those products did not also own/manufacture brands that do. ( I'm not saying they do, but am not even sure how easy it would be to find out if they did!?)

 

[spartacus]

Yeah okay so you are happier using a product/formulation that has accreditation as not being tested on animals. Fair enough I completely understand that and maybe that is as far as you or anyone else want to take it.

But if you purchase that product from a retailer that also sells products that do, then that retailer makes money by selling products that do test on animals, and if you object to that perhaps it would be more preferable to not give any of your money to them? Or maybe that logic is taking things too far?

Even more complicated if the company you buy from doesn't but the brands parent company/owners do. Thus you are indirectly supporting that said company.

I guess I am just saying it is very complicated. I mean do you/others boycott mainstream Washing Powders/Gels because they are made by a huge company that sells many beauty brands in China?

I think it is a bit of a mind-field tbh and like I said maybe knowing a formulation of a product you enjoy using has not been tested on animals anywhere in the world is enough!?

I get what you're saying but not sure how it would help in practice. I buy coop brand toothpaste, washing powder etc because its certified cruelty free. If I were to boycott coop because as well as selling own brand cruelty free products they sell brands that are not certified, I think that leaves no option but to buy from somewhere that has no cruelty free brands at all as I don't know if a store exists that solely sells cruelty free goods. If there is one is id love to know. I buy most of my household and toiletries online from websites that specialise in cruelty free ranges.

 

[srhgts]

I get what you're saying but not sure how it would help in practice. I buy coop brand toothpaste, washing powder etc because its certified cruelty free. If I were to boycott coop because as well as selling own brand cruelty free products they sell brands that are not certified, I think that leaves no option but to buy from somewhere that has no cruelty free brands at all as I don't know if a store exists that solely sells cruelty free goods. If there is one is id love to know. I buy most of my household and toiletries online from websites that specialise in cruelty free ranges.

Would you mind sharing which websites you use? I'm struggling to find everything I need from the cruelty free brands I'm familiar with, so anything new to peruse would be a help.

 

[spartacus]

Would you mind sharing which websites you use? I'm struggling to find everything I need from the cruelty free brands I'm familiar with, so anything new to peruse would be a help.

http://www.biggreensmile.com/criter...ional.aspx?criterion=Go+Cruelty+Free+Products
You can search by cruelty free, Vegan etc whichever is important to you. They do offers across various brands some with free delivery. Their delivery is very quick. I stock up on method cleaning products from them, they smell like beauty products rather than cleaning products. https://www.lovelula.com/t/buav-certified are good too for beauty products.
Ive also had quite a few orders from http://www.lucyrose.biz/about-us.html - their focus is organic/natural but many are cruelty free though you'd need to check http://www.gocrueltyfree.org/consumer to see if specific brands were certified.

 

[srhgts]

That's brilliant, thanks!

 

[Autumn]

Alexis Posted this on FB :mysmilie_59:



In just a matter of days now we will be able to share with you the L'Occitane TSV of the year in floral, warm and fresh fragrances. 8 products all for under £45 and with easy payment options. Make sure you tune in at midnight and enjoy Christmas the L'Occitane way on December 7th

 

[Judith]

Thanks, Autumn. Too many small items for me and that looks like almond shower gel which I hate.