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I'm afraid my wife doesn't agree with you.
She's been taking the collagen liquid supplements for quite a while now, probably nearly 2 years.
She has noticed some benefits from taking it, notably much stronger nails and improved skin. The main skin effect was plumping. They took about at least 3 months before being noticeable.
Hair also improved but that took about a year to be obvious.
Hasn't improved joints noticeably.
She did take a break from it at one point and started to notice a negative change. When she started again she noticed the benefits.
She actually takes slightly less than the recommended amount.
Don't expect instant results, in her experience, months may well needed, unlikely to be the week or ten days they very often allude to on IW.

It's not me she's disagreeing with, it's biology 😂.

You cannot ingest a collagen pill and have it stay as collagen, let alone "move" collagen to where it says on the bottle. The digestive system (and the human body) does not work like that. Anymore than you can swallow some emu oil and have that travel undigested to your skin.

Preformed collagen (collagen isn't a miracle patented ingredient just a chain of bog-standard amino acids found in most food) gets broken back down into amino acids. Those amino acids are then used to make a lot of proteins and things which keep the body working - including collagen.

My point is not that amino acids don't make collagen - they do - or that more collagen helps the body work better - it does - simply that necking a couple of animal-derived collagen pills a day to get those amino acids (largely proline, alanine, glycine, and hydroxyprolin) is not necessary. You can find all of them in much larger quantities in everyday food. They're not magical, exotic, or rare. A single amino acid extracted from cow bones will be identical in form and function in the body as the same amino extracted from, idk, a soya bean.

And my other point is that if you do want to get those aminos from preformed collagen under the misguided notion that 'ingesting collagen makes collagen' then, er, don't be surprised if that doesn't happen. The body uses amino acids for pretty much every single function that keeps you alive. Neither you, your wife, IW, Numi, Proto-Col or anyone else can choose if they're used to make collagen, or if they are, where that collagen ends up.
 
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My God…his hairless little feet…Looks like all they are missing is a pair of Gammon infused Popsox and a pair of size 8 slingbacks…

AND WE ONLY WANT….Sounds like Beat the Chasers… What you WANT…YOU won’t get from ME for the tat you want it for…
 
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My God…his hairless little feet…Looks like all they are missing is a pair of Gammon infused Popsox and a pair of size 8 slingbacks…

AND WE ONLY WANT….Sounds like Beat the Chasers… What you WANT…YOU won’t get from ME for the tat you want it for…

Yeah but that's his inner feminine feet brought on by the foot spa, wait till you see his everyday alpha male feet. :eek::ROFLMAO:

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“If you are not sure you can take this - speak to your GP…But GET IT first.” What he means is, he couldn’t care less what your GP says (if you can get past Castle Grayskull reception first). Just buy something first without checking beforehand that it could be unsuitable for you…Lumber yourself with the fuc….and then try your luck in returning it for a refund.
 
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I don't suppose anyone knows this, but Mike doesn't just hear sound, he feels it! Just said it again. I don't think it's a special gift, Mike. I would imagine all of us feel a favourite piece of music, or a particular artist. Not so special after all, you big, bald, beautiful fella.
I never knew that galesgal57, do you know if he has ever mentioned it before🤪

Being serious though, what does that actually mean? How does he define it? Sounds like one of those poncy statements that flash people say when they are looking down on others.
 
I never knew that galesgal57, do you know if he has ever mentioned it before🤪

Being serious though, what does that actually mean? How does he define it? Sounds like one of those poncy statements that flash people say when they are looking down on others.
I can get swept away listening to certain music, particularly George Michael and Dire Straits, my absolute favourites. Maybe I have the same gift as Mike. ,😜
 
It AIN’T manly on the lady, right?….It AIN’T womanly on the geezer woman, right??? I as a fella could put on this bird’s scent and smell manly, right? So geezer or tart…Cover yerself in this bleedin’ perfoom and be any gender bender you wanna be Right?? Be catapulted on a journey of phantasmagoricalism…Birds and Blokes…Right….Women create life, right??? West Ham 1 - Millwall 3…ZZZZZZzzz…Nahwww…the ‘Oratio deodorant… Aerosol or Ball…or Underarm..
 
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Mythomania of the mikes, who doesn’t just hear sound - but feels it too - states he doesn’t like all the mambo jumbo therapies -does he remember the worry angels? Tw*t
Yes, the clip is on YouTube.

Ofthemasons said: people say we're just praying on the vulnerable, I get very angry at that (or words to that effect).

The idea was that you could offload all your worries talking to a piece of overpriced plastic tat. I could tell all my worries to my kettle (other household appliances are available). Or I could use the kettle to boil water to make a cup of tea which also makes me feel better. If I included an M&S shortbread biscuit my happiness levels would be even higher. I should market that as a form of therapy, I'd make a fortune😝
 

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