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I always laugh when we look back to when we were kids and say things like 'Happy Days', cause strangely they were, even though it would have been nice to have some of the modern conveniences that kids today take for granted.
Yes if I could pick and choose I would definitely have liked the ability to take HD quality vids and pics on a small pocket device stored to a tiny memory card i.e. no need for tapes and film. Other than that, I'm quite happy my youth was pre Internet, pre smartphones etc.
 
For a dead (ok, 'temporarily suspended') IW TV shopping channel, this forum/thread is doing quite well!!! 👍😃


I too have a waterproof watch.

It doesn't let a drop of water out.

😜

The old ones are the best. 👴

Your collective memories of, basically, the 70s/80s all strike a chord. My Mum collecting green shield stamps, and the rolls/lines of stamps being issued. I often had the job of sticking them in the book. Can't remember what she spent them on, just discounts off her next shop I think, in the Co-op or Happy Shopper it may have been. Not a TV!

All the mention of catalogues made me think of many an adolescent boy's first eye-opening foray into the ladies underwear section of the Grattan / Littlewoods type catalogues... 😲 But we won't go there.... 😜 Surely a right of passage for many? Now, like many things, replaced by t'internet.

There's a saying of nothing new, just reinvented. Clubcard points, Nectar, Avios, loyalty/reward points, cashback etc., all owe something to green shield stamps and similar!
My father (along with his Mayfair and his Playboy magazines) kept a well-fingered Freemans Catalogue in his council flat balcony shed. Clearing these out after his death, the corset pages were definitely more thumbed than the Y- fronts section!!
 
From watches to gardening….
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What from today’s gadgets, gizmos, communication options and our 24 hour retail society would I have wanted as a kid growing up through 1970s? Very little really. Mobile phones? No. We got by with landlines and public call boxes. Nobody with access to check your movements 24/7. No text culture. You spoke to people or wrote them a letter. Shops and pubs open all day long? No. We coped with half-day midweek closing, shops and banks closed for lunch, and most main shops shut from 5ish on Saturday afternoon to 9ish on Monday morning. You got what you needed when you could. The pub was more of a treat because you couldn’t always find one open. The Internet? Elements would strongly appeal…Being able to find out any football club’s squad in detail, typing in an old deleted single song and being able to hear it straight away, instead of traipsing around rare record shops trying to find it. Watching an old film not seen on TV for years with one click. Videos teaching you chords of songs for guitar you wanted to play..The rest of it..it wouldn’t bother me if it all disappeared tomorrow. If there is one thing a human being is, it is an incredibly adaptable creature, programmed to survive regardless in most cases. Even the kids would learn to cope if all their tech and social media vanished overnight, I believe.
 
While we're reminiscing down memory lane, it was the 85th anniversary of the Beano recently.

My favourite boyhood comic and Summer Specials, read avidly cover to cover.
Dennis the Menace club Membership card and gnasher badge still around somewhere!

So I took the opportunity to catch-up and collect:

85th anniversary issue / Summer Special 2023
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Regular 24Jul23 issue / Collector's edition of selected strips 1938 - 2008 showing history/evolution of the Beano.

The drawing art has got 'simpler' but the jokes and detail is still fun. And the kids ideas, comedy drawings and contributions are as enthusiastic and wonderfully thoughtful & caring about the planet and people, as ever.

The 85th issue has famous caricatures on the rear cover, Adele, Harry Kane, etc. as voted for by the readers.

The Summer activity special used to be in hardback; I still have some old ones from the 80s in store.

Think I'm regressing to my second childhood!!! 👴 -> 🧒.
 
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Buses for me. A nerdy collecting pursuit, I grant you. But that doesn’t bother me. I have plenty more to accompany it. I take a great emotional comfort in buses. They told you where they were going. There was a structure to the direction they went in. They usually arrived on time and rarely never arrived at all. They didn‘t let me down. I knew where to find them when I needed them. Unlike my father….

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Buses for me. A nerdy collecting pursuit, I grant you. But that doesn’t bother me. I have plenty more to accompany it. I take a great emotional comfort in buses. They told you where they were going. There was a structure to the direction they went in. They usually arrived on time and rarely never arrived at all. They didn‘t let me down. I knew where to find them when I needed them. Unlike my father….

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I've got a Routemaster model but regret NOT buying a very large scale RM (from memory about 18 inches long) that I once saw in a shop. At the time I thought it was too expensive to justify, but they are worth far more now. BTW it was a green one, had it been a red LT then I WOULD have bought it! It was in the IOW bus museum.
 
What from today’s gadgets, gizmos, communication options and our 24 hour retail society would I have wanted as a kid growing up through 1970s? Very little really. Mobile phones? No. We got by with landlines and public call boxes. Nobody with access to check your movements 24/7. No text culture. You spoke to people or wrote them a letter. Shops and pubs open all day long? No. We coped with half-day midweek closing, shops and banks closed for lunch, and most main shops shut from 5ish on Saturday afternoon to 9ish on Monday morning. You got what you needed when you could. The pub was more of a treat because you couldn’t always find one open. The Internet? Elements would strongly appeal…Being able to find out any football club’s squad in detail, typing in an old deleted single song and being able to hear it straight away, instead of traipsing around rare record shops trying to find it. Watching an old film not seen on TV for years with one click. Videos teaching you chords of songs for guitar you wanted to play..The rest of it..it wouldn’t bother me if it all disappeared tomorrow. If there is one thing a human being is, it is an incredibly adaptable creature, programmed to survive regardless in most cases. Even the kids would learn to cope if all their tech and social media vanished overnight, I believe.
I have to say I prefer progress. But I agree the limitations and lifestyle of earlier times was no big deal, we were used to it after all and, as you say, we're very adaptable to our changing conditions.

I'm not one of those who thinks the past was better or preferable. Some things are best left unchanged however.

For me, the technological progress of the past few decades is astonishing and worth any perceived loss of privacy (delete your cookies and turn off GPS/location, use an alias!) or loss of quality time or dealing with the logistics of a faster-changing world.

For years, one ambition of mine was to be able to watch TV or video anywhere on a device. Not stuck to a TV. When that started to become a reality with early smartphones playing low quality video, the wait for quality improvement was interesting and it got to the point with 3G then 4G+, WiFi and Cloud and 'suddenly', my handheld device can play HD+ quality live video streams.

When I was on a bus and able to watch a live sports event coming home about a decade+ ago, before it became commonplace, it was really impressive.

So now I can play IW/QVC/C&C/TJC anywhere now! Lol.
That's when I thought, wow, now we've achieved it.

So the Internet is our window on the world and nearly any info, media, communication is accessible at a touch of a button. I think we really don't appreciate what a resource it is and its potential and how we take it for granted. And we whinge if it goes offline for 2mins now!

Some things were better or need changing. Think these education grades and grading needs sorting. A/A*/AA/Distinction or 1-9. Prefer simple to understand A-E and U!

But each generation adapts to their lot and overall, progress is better. If it improves. Not change for change sake.

For instance, imho, we do need to modernise our government and many state and other institutions to make them fit for purpose. Fear we are still in the 50s post-war mentality in many of our Gov and state institutions, and their systems and processes need much improvement.

If I want to reminisce, then slow TV (a canal barge journey, reindeer trek, postal route through Scottish countryside, bus journey around Yorkshire) is a way to relax!

You can watch it on BBC4 iPlayer!
😀
 
I meant RM in my post, not LT, don't know why I typed that.

Just seen a 2nd hand 1/12 RM on Ebay for £850
Wow. That is a lot of money And that particular made model and kit also make seems to fetch much more also. I think the Sunstar 1:24 scale buses and the EFE Gilbow DMS, with the movable route blinds, are more than good enough for most people. Not the most robust of models in certain places, but convincing enough as display pieces. I remember when I was in the BTP, we went out to LT’s Chiswick Works (where the Cliff Richard skid pan scenes for Summer Holiday were shot) for something or other. There was some amazing standard large RT replicas in display cases made, I presume, by the bus engineering staff there. Going back to that £850 model - I think I’d want the actual bus for that price!!
 
I have to say I prefer progress. But I agree the limitations and lifestyle of earlier times was no big deal, we were used to it after all and, as you say, we're very adaptable to our changing conditions.

I'm not one of those who thinks the past was better or preferable. Some things are best left unchanged however.

For me, the technological progress of the past few decades is astonishing and worth any perceived loss of privacy (delete your cookies and turn off GPS/location, use an alias!) or loss of quality time or dealing with the logistics of a faster-changing world.

For years, one ambition of mine was to be able to watch TV or video anywhere on a device. Not stuck to a TV. When that started to become a reality with early smartphones playing low quality video, the wait for quality improvement was interesting and it got to the point with 3G then 4G+, WiFi and Cloud and 'suddenly', my handheld device can play HD+ quality live video streams.

When I was on a bus and able to watch a live sports event coming home about a decade+ ago, before it became commonplace, it was really impressive.

So now I can play IW/QVC/C&C/TJC anywhere now! Lol.
That's when I thought, wow, now we've achieved it.

So the Internet is our window on the world and nearly any info, media, communication is accessible at a touch of a button. I think we really don't appreciate what a resource it is and its potential and how we take it for granted. And we whinge if it goes offline for 2mins now!

Some things were better or need changing. Think these education grades and grading needs sorting. A/A*/AA/Distinction or 1-9. Prefer simple to understand A-E and U!

But each generation adapts to their lot and overall, progress is better. If it improves. Not change for change sake.

For instance, imho, we do need to modernise our government and many state and other institutions to make them fit for purpose. Fear we are still in the 50s post-war mentality in many of our Gov and state institutions, and their systems and processes need much improvement.

If I want to reminisce, then slow TV (a canal barge journey, reindeer trek, postal route through Scottish countryside, bus journey around Yorkshire) is a way to relax!

You can watch it on BBC4 iPlayer!
😀
I have a fantasy dream of going back in time about 60 years and taking some modern gadgets back with me to astound people, particularly HiFi

But most would not work eg DAB radio, even FM radio was in it;s infancy! Even a modern TV would not work.


But I could take, for example, a Bose Wave radio and my CDs, they would be astounded at the quality of sound from such a small device.
 

I like buses too. Mainly using them than collecting. Your/my ode to the legacy London 15 route, a case in point.
(Apologies to the non-Londoners/non-Southerners here!).

Aside tangent, I've asked repeatedly elsewhere, but who chose the place names (from your bus) on the BBC London weather map and specifically why did they pick Broxbourne and not other better known nearby places, for example, like Stevenage, Luton, Harlow, Hertford, Bedford, Stanstead, etc.?!

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I have a fantasy dream of going back in time about 60 years and taking some modern gadgets back with me to astound people, particularly HiFi

But most would not work eg DAB radio, even FM radio was in it;s infancy! Even a modern TV would not work.


But I could take, for example, a Bose Wave radio and my CDs, they would be astounded at the quality of sound from such a small device.
Yes. If you follow internet conspiracy theory nuts who show an old photo from the past and say it's a time traveller using a mobile phone... There were no mobile phone masts or infrastructure to use it!
Drives me nuts.
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Arrrgghhh!
 
I have a fantasy dream of going back in time about 60 years and taking some modern gadgets back with me to astound people, particularly HiFi

But most would not work eg DAB radio, even FM radio was in it;s infancy! Even a modern TV would not work.


But I could take, for example, a Bose Wave radio and my CDs, they would be astounded at the quality of sound from such a small device.
I remember catweazel and his electrickerry. It would be brilliant to take things back in time
 
Buses for me. A nerdy collecting pursuit, I grant you. But that doesn’t bother me. I have plenty more to accompany it. I take a great emotional comfort in buses. They told you where they were going. There was a structure to the direction they went in. They usually arrived on time and rarely never arrived at all. They didn‘t let me down. I knew where to find them when I needed them. Unlike my father….

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I tried to get into bus/train collecting/hobbyist-ing but I don't seem to be that way inclined for details or interest!

The details of which Routemaster models had the extended chassis, or which had the monocoque shell made by Leyland, or Volvo versus DAF, etc., I just glaze over!

But I can recommend the LT Acton, W.London, bus/tram/tube/train museum & open days. Massive collection of stock and home base extension of the Covent Garden LT museum.

And the Weybridge Bus Museum. (Also the fantastic Brooklands, Weybridge car/ racing/track/air/concorde/transport museum, co-located with Mercedes World car track days and showroom. A great day out!

With electric vehicles in vogue, I did get into Trolleybuses and trams on YouTube for a short while.

Trolleybuses:
"Environmentally friendly and cheap, they finally succumbed to car ownership and fossil fuel on 11 January 1970. Yet half a century later - almost to the day - local councils now see electric public transport as an answer to congestion and air pollution."

The small electric motors under their bonnets, shiny aluminium or steel, look like 2020+, not 1950s, tech!

Trolleybus

Tram
 
I tried to get into bus/train collecting/hobbyist-ing but I don't seem to be that way inclined for details or interest!

The details of which Routemaster models had the extended chassis, or which had the monocoque shell made by Leyland, or Volvo versus DAF, etc., I just glaze over!

But I can recommend the LT Acton, W.London, bus/tram/tube/train museum & open days. Massive collection of stock and home base extension of the Covent Garden LT museum.

And the Weybridge Bus Museum. (Also the fantastic Brooklands, Weybridge car/ racing/track/air/concorde/transport museum, co-located with Mercedes World car track days and showroom. A great day out!

With electric vehicles in vogue, I did get into Trolleybuses and trams on YouTube for a short while.

Trolleybuses:
"Environmentally friendly and cheap, they finally succumbed to car ownership and fossil fuel on 11 January 1970. Yet half a century later - almost to the day - local councils now see electric public transport as an answer to congestion and air pollution."

The small electric motors under their bonnets, shiny aluminium or steel, look like 2020+, not 1950s, tech!

Trolleybus

Tram
I love these old films and the lack of traffic. One cyclist seemed to be holding on to the entrance pole to get a pull along.

Trolleybusses had more acceleration than any other vehicles of the time, they sometimes made me feel queasy with the G force!
 

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