Don't you mean, Donna, unless they have the bunny logo they do animal test? (according to Scout). I am extremely stringent re animal testing on any product, and can understand how assuming that the absence of the logo means there is a bit of doubt there. I do research into every company before I patronise it, and I can assure you that there are brands out there without the logo, which absolutely do not test on animals. I know elemis doesn't have the bunny, but I thought Scout had some dedicated information on the brand's practices. I still consider elemis to be a 'safe' brand to use, although I am not currently doing so. I did think that a quandary had been solved for me; I don't buy an item just because it is on EP and, at approx £60 inc postage, although a bargain, it is not an inconsiderable sum to pay. When you split it up into £13.50 a month, it seems a throwaway price. I quite fancy reverting to using toner again, and I like moringa balm, so the balm may be good for my uber sensitive skin. I love frangipani. The only item I'm not bothered about, but would use, is the exfoliator. My skin has been desperately agitated of late, and the ABC skin wash is the only shower stuff I can use, so I don't want to exacerbate it even further. I currently need a new printer and - I look at the total price not the EPs - £60 will go a good way towards paying for it. the elemis tsv is not a necessity, but a treat. Think I'll get my boxers some salmon mousse instead.