what i find irksome is charlie and julia telling people thier marital status on a shopping channel. in fact i find it disrespectful to thier other halfs. charlie says it in a rather flippant way like he does not care to bother marry her. he also calls her "the mother of my children" with a smirk. i suppose i am a bit old fashioned.
Why is he not married?
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I doubt anyone makes them announce such details. I really don't have a problem with it. I think going back a generation or two societal attitudes were very different. My mother came under a lot of criticism for not having married, and she just got on with her life. What's the point of marrying someone, anyway? If two people don't like each other what difference is being married going to make? How does it change anything? I'm not "anti-marriage," I just don't think the arguments for marrying hold any water. I guess people's reasons for marrying are personal to them. Some people think it's ok to marry for money, some people because they love someone, some people believe it makes them more secure....It's just the done things that people have been doing for centuries. Why shouldn't people question marriage? And what about gay marriage? That's a relatively recent advent, now enshrined in law. I think people question the very nature of marriage more these days, whereas in the past it was something one just did to conform.
None at all - and not a good reason to get married.
I wanted to be married to show a commitment to my now wife.
We got married purely to be seen as a 'proper' couple. I'd had 5 miscarriages and had been treated quite shabbily tbh (yep, even 10+ years ago, out here in the sticks a 'miss' having a baby, complete with long-term partner, raised eyebrows - literally). The difference in attitude after I became a 'mrs' was astounding. The same staff that seemed as if they couldn't care less previously suddenly became more caring and proactive, referring us on for specialist support.
We'd planned on marrying before the baby was born, due to the legalities being much easier for married parents, but never got round to it. The whole experience has made me pretty bitter and of the opinion that only rich(er) people can afford to be un-wed parents (or parents-to-be) without problems/attitude somewhere along the line.
Just my opinion based on my experiences - maybe I was just unlucky with it all.
We'd planned on marrying before the baby was born, due to the legalities being much easier for married parents, but never got round to it. The whole experience has made me pretty bitter and of the opinion that only rich(er) people can afford to be un-wed parents (or parents-to-be) without problems/attitude somewhere along the line.
Just my opinion based on my experiences - maybe I was just unlucky with it all.
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It's interesting that gay couples have fought so hard for marriage when the general opinion amongst heterosexual couples is that it is now unnecessary.
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Mmmm, why hasn't Mel married him. Probably cos he threatened to get her the Links of London TSV for her 40th birthday.
He did later backtrack and said he might not be able to wait that long to give it to her, ooh err missus.
On his salary I would expect Cartier at the very least.
He did later backtrack and said he might not be able to wait that long to give it to her, ooh err missus.
On his salary I would expect Cartier at the very least.
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Totally agree with this post although for me personally I did feel an increased level of security, can't put my finger on why!! Maybe because I was 33 when I met my husband and 35 when I married him, and 37 when I had my first child, I might have been putting myself under pressure to do what society expected of me. Being unmarried and childless was a worry for me personally, but I appreciate that not everyone feels the same as me and makes different choices for themselves. I would not judge them, as long as they don't judge me for placing a high value on a good marriage. X
I'm pretty sure that it is not his choice but his partner's - seem to remember a conversation he had on air with a jewellery guest.
Whilst some presenters are happy to share their private lives with the viewers, it must be difficult if you are asked a personal question on air by a guest on a topic which you would not normally want to discuss publicly. You may also answer in a way to save face - doesn't necessarily mean that is how you really behave in relation to your partner for example. He is probably sick to death of people asking him why he isn't married, so he may answer in a way which comes across as being flippant.
Whilst some presenters are happy to share their private lives with the viewers, it must be difficult if you are asked a personal question on air by a guest on a topic which you would not normally want to discuss publicly. You may also answer in a way to save face - doesn't necessarily mean that is how you really behave in relation to your partner for example. He is probably sick to death of people asking him why he isn't married, so he may answer in a way which comes across as being flippant.
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Getting married is a great short-cut to establish a range of legal and financial "contracts" without having to itemise and agree to each shared benefit. The "a piece of paper won't change anything" attitude misses the point; getting married didn't change our relationship but it makes for both parties' fiscal and property security. When death-do-us-part, life will be so much more straightforward for the widowed partner, sorting out their affairs. So does this make marriage less romantic? Not really, the marriage takes care of the practical stuff whilst the love and romance carries on regardless (or not).
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Ah, but that's as much about equality as anything, isn't it? The right to choose to get married … or not. Just as heterosexual couples do.
Part of me wonders if, in this day and age, it's necessary or relevant to marry (sociologically speaking,) especially as a woman and a feminist. My partner and I have decided to marry though, for more personal reasons. I'm all for modern women (and men) remaining independent but at the same time I have a more primal wish to belong to a secure, happy family unit, as I never have before. We won't be having children but still consider our upcoming marriage as making us a family.
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It's really up to each individual couple whether they choose to formalize a partnership or not, but thank god we're out of the era where to "live in sin" was frowned on as being immoral so many people felt forced to marry simply to comply with the rules and mores of the time. Commitment comes in many forms and should be celebrated, not challenged.
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I am not sure where I stand on this to be honest. I am married, and it has made me more secure, and also stopped me from walking out at times. I know that if we weren't married I would have been out the door on a few occasions in the past! I don't know if I would do it again, if I found myself in that position. I think I would rather like independence, but with a regular partner. I don't think it's important these days, and all down to personal choice. What I do find odd is people getting engaged. This is really outdated! I can appreciate it more if they get engaged then get married within a year or so, but the never-ending engagements - I don't get it! I don't get the engagement thing full stop to be honest. Just get married! This is someone who got engaged twice, but just got married the 3rd time. Complete waste of time, I even said so at the time, he he!
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The UK has the highest statistics (in Europe) of children born out of wedlock. All the comments on here make it much clearer why.
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I don't get long engagements or those which are seen as an end in itself; a couple of girls I worked with were "engaged" but apparently not "engaged to be married" because when asked about the wedding they had nothing planned even on a distant horizon. I don't feel any less "independent" because I'm married rather than living together; I think if being married somehow equated with feeling subjugated then I'd be married to the wrong person.
I've had a long engagement, certainly not out of choice but for financial reasons. Long story short the recession hit our wedding and indeed life plans pretty damn hard. We planned to marry in 2011 and it's still not happened... Fingers crossed it'll finally be happening next spring.
I don't get getting engaged but not to get married either, what does that even mean? Engaged to be what then?
I don't get getting engaged but not to get married either, what does that even mean? Engaged to be what then?
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Don't get me wrong, I don't feel dependant now. We are both very independent and like and respect our own/each others space. I just mean that I would like to have my own home to myself and just see my new man now and again! In theory; who knows how I would feel of it ever happened.
My sister in law and a friend from school have been engaged for 20 years and both ridicule marriage! ! I ask them why they didn't just ask for a flashy ring and leave it at that? Doesn't go down well ;-)
