Ultrasun

[Suki 1]

Please can anyone tell me, do you apply Ultrasun under or over Moisturiser?

 

[Tinkerbelle]

I don't use it but I heard AY and the guest saying it was best under your moisturiser but if you absolutely have to use something first then leave it at least 15 minutes before applying aftersun.

Some medical lotions and potions and high end skincare have to be put on to clean dry skin.

 

[Capirossi]

Yes, under. But when I use the face 30 I really don't need a seperate moisturiser. It feels lovely and is an excellent base for foundation or minerals etc. Had a good read of the leaflet that came with my after sun today. It works on skin photo types and destinations. According to their directions, if my skin is used to the sun I should apply every 6 hours or so, and if not used to the sun, every 3 or so. So that's me definitely applying twice a day on hols then!

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[LuvLizEarlestuff]

I recently contacted Ultrasun CS re face 50. Definitely the first thing you apply - on clean, dry skin. Leave for at least 10 mins before applying a moisturiser or primer etc. It isn't quite moisturising enough for my cheeks so I put one on top. Wish they would explain the correct application process more clearly in presentations - it's as if they don't want to point out that you need to wait a while.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

So the leaflet makes it clear it's not "once a day"? Interesting considered how often yer woman bangs on about it being once a day and forget it.

 

[Capirossi]

So the leaflet makes it clear it's not "once a day"? Interesting considered how often yer woman bangs on about it being once a day and forget it.

Exactly. I've had two days in and out of the house where it's been brilliant. One day of being outdoors most of the day, short bursts in the sun, mainly in the shade, and I could feel a slight burn. This is why I wanted to find out, as not even the uk website mentions it. I will be on the side of caution now. Funny thing though, took delivery of the face 30, lip product and aftersun today from ifsogo.com. The aftersun had a 'once a day' sticker on!! Most odd.

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[Brissles]

Interesting article in today's DAily Mail, about the testing and suitability of sun creams. Oh dear, Ultrasun didn't rate any stars at all ! Wonder if AY saw it.

 

[Capirossi]

I read that Brissles. I like the sound of the Aldi Lacura one - with an 'anti-ageing' ingrediant that's not advertised. Wonder if this is the precious ectarin (sp) that Ms Cleeves goes on about?!

See, this guy says to wear spf30-50, whilst others say anything above a 30 is a waste of time. Who are we meant to believe?! I know I can look after myself, as I have common sense confused, but there are a lot of people in this world who can't fathom it out for themselves and like to listen to the so-called 'experts'!! lol :smirk: I'll go right out there and say, you can never have too much sun protection, slap it on! Better safe than sorry when it comes to health I say.

 

[QuiteVacuousChat]

Interesting article in today's DAily Mail, about the testing and suitability of sun creams. Oh dear, Ultrasun didn't rate any stars at all ! Wonder if AY saw it.

The Daily Mail article was a bit stupid, though, as it pitted one brand's factor 30 cream against another's factor 50. Whether something was any good seemed to rest mainly on what the packaging said rather than a laboratory test or even a user panel.

 

[Tinkerbelle]

In theory factor 50 should be safer than factor 30 but what the dermatologist who told me not to bother with anything above 30 was basically saying (I think) is use 25 or 30 and reapply rather than use 50 and don't reapply.

I used factor 25 on Sunday and was in the sun from 10am until about 2pm. I was working on my allotment and not sat in the sun but the exposure is still the same. That works for me but it wouldn't for everyone. I would have slapped some more on but I didn't intend to be in the sun again so there was no point.

You just have to be careful and do what's right for you. Confusing though.

 

[Boris Bear]

I had a Google and apparently SPF 30 cuts out about 97% of UVB whilst SPF 50 cuts out about 98%. Maybe the reason experts' opinions differ is because the increase in protection is minimal. Factor 50 sounds like it should be a lot more effective than factor 30!

 

[Pickles]

Just to muddy the water a bit....
I was watching Ultrasun last week, and Abby definately said that you can moisturise before or after Ultrasun-ing.
I rewound it as I always thought it had to be the first thing on the skin so it binds to it, and then wait 15 minutes if you want to apply anything else.
She said they had done tests both ways.
I am a bit concerned about this once a day or not thing. That's it's main attraction for me. Also, what is 'up to 8 hours protection' ? Is it 8 hours, 2 hours or what?

 

[Tinkerbelle]

I'd like to know how you know for sure certain how long you can be in the sun before you burn without actually trying it. That's always puzzled me. In my case I'd say it was somewhere between 30 - 40 minutes in full sun but I don't really know.

 

[iloveshopping]

Just to muddy the water a bit....
I was watching Ultrasun last week, and Abby definately said that you can moisturise before or after Ultrasun-ing.
I rewound it as I always thought it had to be the first thing on the skin so it binds to it, and then wait 15 minutes if you want to apply anything else.
She said they had done tests both ways.
I am a bit concerned about this once a day or not thing. That's it's main attraction for me. Also, what is 'up to 8 hours protection' ? Is it 8 hours, 2 hours or what?

From what I gathered the 8 hours protection would be for someone who had already had some recent exposure to the sun. So if you are just starting out your overseas holiday then for the first x days (not sure how many) you should reapply every 3 hours. Then possibly (after 5 days?) you can apply every six hours and so on up to 8.
I keep out of the sun as much as possible so I imagine that I could manage 6 hours with no reapplication however if I was caught out and couldn't cover up then I'd be slapping it on every 3 hours especially my neck and back of hands.
Sun protection in terms of burning is dependant on skin type (therefore it is difficult for the sun protection companies to state obsolutes) though in the long run to keep the skin youthful, keeping out of the sun is the best thing for all of us.

 

[rainbowdottie]

My hospital dermatologist has always told me to apply any suncream on a clean face before any moisturisers/face creams...otherwise the product won't work.

My son at his regularly dermatology app yesterday was told to use Sunsense Sun Sensitive.......if a leading London Hospital recommend it,it must be good! When reading the reviews on Amazon is seems Chelsea & Westminister aren't the only hospital recommending it!

 

[Weathergirl]

Abby said if you must apply moisturiser first wait at least 15 mins until ultrasun goes on.

For most of us "all day" in the sun would be an absolute maximum of 8 hours, say 10-6.

I used to use Rieman p20 in my 20's It did not stop the UVA, but it was applied to clean, dry skin, wait for 45 minutes and it would give all day protection against burning, and necause the UVA got through you tanned. I was sceptical, but used it for a fortnight in the dominican republic, and the following year a fortnight in the Maldives. It worked both times, no burning, and a tan. Heaven forbid if I knew then what I know now about UVA I would never have done it but I say just to confirm that if it binds to the skin it does prevent burning all day in very hot sun. Ultrasun may be the same, just with UVA included. I also recall it worked after swimming provided you did not rub the skin with a towel afterwards.

It may be that extremely fair skinned people cannot last the full 8 hours, but certainly my fair to medium skin coped with it.

 

[miss molly]

Heard Abby say that if you get sunburnt it can alter your DNA,This can't be right can it?

 

[Weathergirl]

Erm..... Noooo.... WTF? Unless she means that sunburn can cause genetic mutation... Hmmmmm. In thousands of years perhaps human beings will have crocodile skin or rhino hide

 

[Bauble]

You will have skin like a rhino or crocodile before long if you sit for 8 hours a day in the sun whether in the med, the caribbean or your back garden with or without ultra sun. Just please dont do it and no you wont get brittle bone disease.

 

[iloveshopping]

Just because a consultant recommends a product, I would not consider it the best in the field. There are quite a few products that don't come to the attention of the specialists and are good. I was using a sunscreen from a dermatologist that was on prescription quite a few years ago and it was vile. It made my face completely white and even if I had not sweated it made my eyes stream when I was outside. Useless and the dermatologist never got any feedback from me because I never mentioned it to her because my appointments were 6 months apart and I'd forgotten about it when i returned.