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Id also like to point out that anyone working in commercial modelling will be very used to adverse comment about their appearance. These people are rejected every day, purely because of how they look. I think any sympathy would be better directed at someone who needs the help.
 
oooooooooooo dear...

What I dislike about topics like this one is that there is an real live, living, feeling, human being at the centre, who none of us know.

Is so awful that some feel they have the right, just because this a 'forum' to be as nasty as possible about a perfectly attractive woman in her 40's.

Yes, she is a model and models are expected to be physically perfect, whatever perfect is (in your eyes), but its a job she has chosen to do because she can do it, it doesn't mean people can say such awful things about her. It costs nothing to be nice.

Comments on here could ruin a person's career and where would that leave someone, dependant on their income with a family to support and bills to pay just like you have.

Come on... respond in the usual way - especially you, you know who...you who must be perfect in every single way!
 
oooooooooooo dear...

What I dislike about topics like this one is that there is an real live, living, feeling, human being at the centre, who none of us know.

Is so awful that some feel they have the right, just because this a 'forum' to be as nasty as possible about a perfectly attractive woman in her 40's*.

Thank you London, this could also apply to those of us who've been described as "the vindictive, nasty people in the world who would rather crucify someone than do them a good turn".

Jude xx

* other ages and genders are available
 
I'm simply trying to illustrate that no one is innocent of making value-judgements.
 
Wasnt specifically referring to you, Jude. But sadly there ARE peeps like London describes on here.
 
In every walk of working life people are judged, appraised and indeed criticised for those individual aspects that impact on their ability to perform their job. No one is interested in a TV model's intellect, time-management skills etc; her sole raison d'etre is to look beautiful and enhance the product she's modeling surely? As a result, if a model's appearance is distracting from the product maybe that's a subject that's open to debate; whether it's her pouty lips, gurning face-pulling, peg-dolly hair or whatever?
What amazes me is how few TV models there seem to be! The same faces: Beulah, Tiffany, Jo (the older blonde over-acting one) etc appear on QVC, Lorraine and This Morning as though there are no other models available. Does their agency have a monopoly on 35+ modelling?Back to the perennial Q of forum critique of shopping channel personnel .... it's a forum about shopping telly!

*How many posts have you reported to the mods?

No one has challenged my assertion that Frankie's face is not symmetrical, which would be the logical counter-argument rather than implying that forum-members are less attractive-looking and this is their motivation for posting. Stick to facts not speculation I say.



Jude xx

*Rhetorical Q...that's between you and the mods



Going off 'piste' a bit here, but I have to agree on this one - I'm sure Tiffany has shares in the agency she works for because she advertises EVERYTHING from cruises, to funeral insurance, to step in baths - indicating there must be an awful shortage of mature models out there. Um, psssssst I'm available for a bit of extra cash to supplement the old pension (now trying hard to think of best body part)
 
Wasnt specifically referring to you, Jude. But sadly there ARE peeps like London describes on here.

People criticising people they don't know on a forum being more acceptable than commenting on the appearance of someone paid to look nice?
 
But this is the appropriate course of action if a forum member has been offended by a post.

I feel greater sense of loyalty to the forum friends I've come to know over the years and resposibility for their feelings than worry about offending the feelings of anyone on TV.

Yes indeed it is the appropriate course of action and I would urge everyone to remember that.

Whilst I am posting can I please remind people that personal attacks on fellow forum members won't be tolerated.
 
People criticising people they don't know on a forum being more acceptable than commenting on the appearance of someone paid to look nice?

Its not the forum member personally, just the post. I cant understand why a poster can say " gosh doesn't so and so look ugly/ have nasty feet/ big lips .... Bla bla bla
Then someone writes " hey that's a bit mean...I like her/ think she's funny ... Etc etc and then it all escalates into something really nasty. We dont all agree, but in my view there is a line in the sand. Its ok to say "its annoying with all that hair flicking, but its a bit too far to say "she's ugly, she shouldn't have a job... he or she makes my skin crawl.. " because its then really nasty and personal.

I will repeat, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But its too much to expect everyone to agree. I may not take personal offence to a post, but if I think it is nasty I will say so ( the post not the person!). I wont necessarily report the posts because I am not the injured party. It would be for Frankie to report offensive posts if she could be bothered.

However, I wonder what would happen if we all suddenly reported posts that may offend somebody else instead of just saying "like/dislike". A thread can sometimes get a bit heated but if everyone went to the moderator there would be no forum left!
 
If we followed this logic thn there would be no national press, no political comment, no satirical cartoons, no theatre TV or music reviews, and when your kids put that half naked over made up bimbo or that foul mouthed rapper on MTV you wouldn't be able to pass comment.

Things only got nasty on this thread when accusations about people being nasty started getting thrown around. Before that it was idle chit chat about someone who puts herself up for judgement in return for money.

It still staggers me that someone like Julia Roberts can get ripped to shreds on here and only the same 3 or 4 voices come to her defence. For every one else it's open season to have a gleeful bitch about someone who, apparently, deserves it.

If we are going to move to a forum where personal criticism isn't allowed then let's apply it to everyone shall we? not that there will be such a forum, because this place wouldnt survive. Take a look atth hit numbers on the various threads if you need proof of that.
 
I like Julia Roberts! But I dont like the nasty tabloid press...or most politicians for that matter!!! There are MANY people who have posted on this forum saying people have been very nasty from time to time. We cant all be wrong. But likewise there are some threads which are funny and informative. If people want to carry on posting in that manner then fine. If people just ignore them then those threads would be very short!
 
I will repeat, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But its too much to expect everyone to agree. I may not take personal offence to a post, but if I think it is nasty I will say so ( the post not the person)

So if I think a post of yours is boring/trite/unrealistic or just plain stupid do I get to say so? Seriously. Would have to give up the day job to fit this in. I'm just illustrating the point, your post is very reasonable, but the purpose of this place is to comment on shopping TV, not on each other. If people stuck to this simple rule there would be no upset.

And I'd suggest that the negative stuff is far outweighed by the humourous and mundane, because most people on here are nice, most of the time.
 
oooooooooooo dear...

Comments on here could ruin a person's career and where would that leave someone, dependant on their income with a family to support and bills to pay just like you have.

I doubt this very much.

OK anyone think Tiffany, Beulah etc have nicely pedicured attractive feet?
 
I had no idea this forum had the power to take down whole careers! If that were the case, wouldn't half of QVC be unemployed by now?

Any model, who is paid to look good and display a product knows that they are judged on their appearance. That's what they get money for, nothing else. I think it's perfectly reasonable to post that, as a model (not as a person!), she doesn't do a very good job, and there are better models out there. If we're all going to be sweetness and light and only comment about people we know intimately (as otherwise we're not allowed) then the entire free press will shut down overnight.
 

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