Had to laugh last night, watched a few minutes of Debbie Flint flogging the remnants of the Elemis December TSV (yawn). She said that just because the price was amazing it doesn't mean that the products are old stock, or words to that effect! Try telling that to all the customers who have received really old Elemis items Debbie, me being one of them! Perhaps, just perhaps we have all wised up to Elemis and their tricks and that's one of the reasons QVC have this amazing TSV still on their hands??? I could be wrong of course. I have moved on from this brand, having used it exclusively for a fair while.