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They're real. Real enough that there's been a lot of concern in the diamond industry that they can be taken from settings and passed off as real. No chemical difference, no test to tell.

However, I did read this week that they'll be putting 'nano tags' inside them so they will be able to be read in future.
 
They're real. Real enough that there's been a lot of concern in the diamond industry that they can be taken from settings and passed off as real. No chemical difference, no test to tell.

However, I did read this week that they'll be putting 'nano tags' inside them so they will be able to be read in future.
Yes, they say they’re real, but come on, anything that’s made in a lab and not grown in a mine is not real. I have worked for 3 jewellers & I know for a fact they will have very little or no resale value compared to a genuine mined diamond
 
Although do you think that in view of the eco movement and also the concern over blood/conflict diamonds these type of stones may become the equivalent of faux fur but a lot more expensive and very attractive to the Gretas and Megan’s of this world?
 
Yes, they say they’re real, but come on, anything that’s made in a lab and not grown in a mine is not real. I have worked for 3 jewellers & I know for a fact they will have very little or no resale value compared to a genuine mined diamond
Can you tell Moissanite by eye Tarot?
 
Yes, they say they’re real, but come on, anything that’s made in a lab and not grown in a mine is not real. I have worked for 3 jewellers & I know for a fact they will have very little or no resale value compared to a genuine mined diamond

One of my best friends is a jeweller and has expressed a lot of concern about them as they technically ARE real. The diamond is made in exactly the same way as a natural one but obviously much faster. They form the same difference in the range of colours and have exactly the same inclusions.

There is no way whatsoever he can tell one of these from a mined diamond. Jewellers are having to rely on honesty if a customer turns up with a broken ring with a loose stone. It's easy enough to pick up some second-hand rings, knock out the cheaper stones and either have the lab diamonds replaced into a new un-marked setting to sell on to another jeweller or just sell as a broken parcel.

The current price of the labs are just over half the retail of mined. If you try selling any mined diamond it's going to be at least half what you've paid for it anyway. Especially if you've bought from a chain jeweller. I've always bought second-hand from my friend and had a really good deal to start with (though I appreciate most people don't have a friend in the trade and most will buy at full retail from a chain).

They're a big step up from CZ and Moissanite and the more popular they become the better they'll hold their re-sale value (again, nothing lie the retail price). Once the tags become common the price will settle again.

There's a big market already for them from people who don't want to be sure they're not buying blood diamonds. I've seen a few of these in the flesh from when they first appeared in America and they are as beautiful as the real thing. CZ and Moissanite are really obvious to me (and just about everyone in the trade) but the labs I've seen are identical to diamonds even under a loupe. I own a smaller G VS1 Tiffany diamond that we compared to the lab and there was no difference - even the cut was lovely.

The spiel the chains give you in order to sell is a lot more fake than a lab diamond. I've heard them say everything from getting full money back if you re-sell to the '1-carat princess diamond' made up of four smaller stones being a 'real 1carat' stone. I also overheard one woman tell a young couple that a P3/M stone was the best grade they could get. It's down to personal taste (and a bit of education) but I'd much rather one of these than a natural of the calibre you'd find in a chain jeweller - even a Tiffany at their prices.

If I was half of a young couple on a budget shopping for a beautiful diamond engagement ring I'd have no problem buying one of these - not at QVC's prices though.

Can you tell Moissanite by eye Tarot?

Eye can!

Seriously, I can. All the Moissanites I've seen have had a very slight green tinge. They also throw a slightly different range of colours under lights. If you have one hold it under bright lights so you get the colour flash and look for the pink. It's a colour a diamond doesn't throw.

There is a range of Moissanite that is being sold as a whiter stone without the greenish tinge. I haven't seen one of these in the flesh but I'm told that has the pink flash too.

Although do you think that in view of the eco movement and also the concern over blood/conflict diamonds these type of stones may become the equivalent of faux fur but a lot more expensive and very attractive to the Gretas and Megan’s of this world?

The labs are indeed very attractive to the people that want to avoid conflict stones. The Canadian diamonds are a nice alternative but very pricey.

I prefer the old cuts so antique stones have always been my favourites. They were mined under crappy conditions but at least they weren't sold to finance modern wars etc.
 
They are identical in every respect, something I found hard to believe until I read an article on the BBC that confirmed everything I'd been told the day before when I saw one in a local jewellers. I love diamonds, however, I love the planet more & I'd be more than happy to receive a diamond that had been created in a machine & not mined with all the environmental destruction & moral issues attached to that process.
 
Practically all diamond jewellery devalues hugely as soon as it’s sold so it’s not an investment but something emotionally precious. Lab diamonds don’t sound very romantic! How are they created and how on earth do they arrive at these prices? It’s all shrouded in mystery. Diamonds they may be but I’m unmoved. I love browsing antique shops and auctions where beautiful jewellery can be found at amazing prices. Pieces with stories to tell that will live on and bring delight at no further cost to the planet.
 
I might be weird, but I don't really like diamonds. I have always been attracted to coloured stones give me emeralds, rubies and sapphires any day.

There was a documentary about Tiffany last year I watched. They are the company that started the Diamond is for love and the craze for them as engagement rings. It was a campaign they started as interest in diamonds was dropping. The campaign worked and still taken as gospel years later.
 
I might be weird, but I don't really like diamonds. I have always been attracted to coloured stones give me emeralds, rubies and sapphires any day.

There was a documentary about Tiffany last year I watched. They are the company that started the Diamond is for love and the craze for them as engagement rings. It was a campaign they started as interest in diamonds was dropping. The campaign worked and still taken as gospel years later.
You're not weird, I love them so each to their own. I also love sapphires & would have liked a solitaire ring when we got engaged but they weren't available off the peg & my Mr T was too proud to ask my grandad, who was a jeweller, for help... When I got married grandad asked him if he could make me a ring & Mr T said it was fine - men!
 
My days of buying expensive jewellery are over. I love all precious stones including diamonds but when I die I wonder if my sons female partners and my grand daughters will like or love the jewellery I leave them ? I was blessed with 3 sons and no daughters and much as my sons love me, I doubt they`d want to wear my jewellery lol.
Tastes change, styles change and the quality of jewellery plus the price of it changes too and if I was a young woman getting engaged nowadays then there`d be much more choice than there was when I got engaged to my late first hubby back in 1971.
I suppose any young woman given a budget or any young man looking to buy an engagement ring for a surprise proposal may or may not consider lab grown diamonds. They may want more blingtastic sparkle for their money or they may want the diamonds which nature has created. They may consider lab grown diamonds to be more ethical but if the manufacture of them is moved or concentrated in the likes of India or China then who`se to know the workers involved are treated any better or more fairly than any other worker in those Countries ? They`re obviously becoming more popular and more and more jewellery websites are plugging them so I suspect production of them will increase by demand.
I have a few items which belonged to my late Mum and I recall as a teenager and as a young bride I didn`t find them attractive but as I grew older I began to appreciate the quality of them and the workmanship in them. I hope when I`m gone my sons partners and my grand daughters will do the same with my stuff.
In years to come will lab grown diamonds be seen as possible heirlooms or simply as another bit of modern technology which came and went ?
 
Aquamarines are lovely but so many are wishy washy and have barely any blue in them. There`s nothing nicer than a large emerald cut aquamarine which is of a true colour. Like everything else nowadays you get what you pay for and when you see so called aquamarines in the likes of Ernest Jones or other high street stores, they are obviously poor quality stones with barely any colour, they look kind of grey.
I follow a jewellers on my facebook and they post photos customers have sent in of their engagement or special occasion rings and they recently had a young woman showing off her aquamarine and diamond engagement ring and the colour was amazing. I still suffer ring envy now and again but as I said above, I buy no more so I get my fix from admiring other peoples rings instead.
 
I am not fussed about jewellery full stop. I think it is at least partly to do with feeling claustrophobic when I wear it...But I think it is normally the circumstances surrounding receiving a piece of jewellery that gives it it's sentimental value.
I love looking at beautiful stones, but I have no need to wear them.
 
My daughter has a beautiful aquamarine ring in a deep colour bought for her after she had her first baby. For beautiful antique rings I would recommend Berganza, Hatton Gardens. If you love beautiful rings then browsing their website will be a pleasure.
 
Back in the day when QVC sold decent jewellery, I did buy an oval aquamarine ring surrounded by diamonds that are visible, its a beautiful colour, and was around the £170 mark. When you think that Lola Rose can ask £140+ for her stuff now, then it makes me wonder what my ring would be worth.
 
My daughter has a beautiful aquamarine ring in a deep colour bought for her after she had her first baby. For beautiful antique rings I would recommend Berganza, Hatton Gardens. If you love beautiful rings then browsing their website will be a pleasure.
Just had a quick look at Berganza and some gorgeous stuff but some eye watering prices. This is the website I follow on facebook and they do some gorgeous rings. I quite fancied treating myself to an Edwardian style cluster ring for my 70th but I will be strong and resist and continue to watch my ring porn via their facebook page. Talking of porn or rather pawn, did anybody watch the programme Million Pound Pawn on ITV earlier this week ?
 

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