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I imagine the view that is taken by the management and presenters of the core buying audience is they believe them to be old, generally out of touch, potentially socially isolated, looking for some kind of camaraderie and friendship from the television, and completely believing of whatever they are told on that basis.

There seems no pressure on the station to provide truthful and factual presentations. I would think they believe themselves to be completely untouchable by the toothless body that is supposed to monitor what they do. You could definitely say that on the spurious price comparison system they use. And also with the hysterical exaggerations they employ when they talk about weather forecasts for the country. I have frequently checked when you hear people like Simon stating certain areas of the country are going to be freezing on a particular evening, and I have usually found that that isn't the case.

Their whole rationale of selling seems to be based upon scaremongering, or bigging up items as being rare and desirable at bargain basement prices, which essentially they are not. What was it Gob on a Stick said yesterday- 'Champagne Living for Beer Money Prices' or words to that effect. That's the ludicrous dream that they are trying to sell to the poor saps watching

We all want to go to work and earn a good wage. Some of us want to earn that good wage behaving in a fair manner. Being honest and transparent with our customers if we are in a selling environment. So we can go home at night and feel proud of what we've done, rather than the alternative of just wanting to forget all about the BS you spouted and just enjoy the spoils of it. Take your own view which of those two scenarios the presenters on this channel employ when they get home to their warm, expensive houses.
 
Found a set of videos from a former floor manager of Create and Craft on YouTube, going through his redundancy story.

He said they were promised they were going to be paid, even given there pay slips, but they received nothing, as they went into administration, he was told he had to claim the money back from the government.

It’s on a YouTube channel called Ben and my cat
 
Duke of Cheese said:
I imagine the view that is taken by the management and presenters of the core buying audience is they believe them to be old, generally out of touch, potentially socially isolated, looking for some kind of camaraderie and friendship from the television, and completely believing of whatever they are told on that basis.

There seems no pressure on the station to provide truthful and factual presentations. I would think they believe themselves to be completely untouchable by the toothless body that is supposed to monitor what they do. You could definitely say that on the spurious price comparison system they use. And also with the hysterical exaggerations they employ when they talk about weather forecasts for the country. I have frequently checked when you hear people like Simon stating certain areas of the country are going to be freezing on a particular evening, and I have usually found that that isn't the case.

Their whole rationale of selling seems to be based upon scaremongering, or bigging up items as being rare and desirable at bargain basement prices, which essentially they are not. What was it Gob on a Stick said yesterday- 'Champagne Living for Beer Money Prices' or words to that effect. That's the ludicrous dream that they are trying to sell to the poor saps watching

We all want to go to work and earn a good wage. Some of us want to earn that good wage behaving in a fair manner. Being honest and transparent with our customers if we are in a selling environment. So we can go home at night and feel proud of what we've done, rather than the alternative of just wanting to forget all about the BS you spouted and just enjoy the spoils of it. Take your own view which of those two scenarios the presenters on this channel employ when they get home to their warm, expensive houses.
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How I agree with you about the works ethics. I was fortunate in my working life that in the main, both the companies and personnel did things legally, morally and ethically honest. One sales manager wanted me to break the law by issuing untrue paperwork so the overseas company paid no import duty. When I refused, he threatened to sack me. So I did all the paperwork but put his name on it as the signatory. He refused to sign as he knew he could get prosecuted. He escalated it to the board, who backed me and he got the sack.
 
Jazzydrury said:
Snow in November if not up in Scotland is rare, but that wasn’t there reasoning.

It was to scaremonger viewers into buying.
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It's very sad if people put into a state of alarm then think the answer is buying the awful products sold by IW.

Like Dirty Pedro, I live in a draughty hovel but I know what no amount of ceramic heaters, sherpa blankets and corded/cordless vacuums will do anything but waste money.
 
Jazzydrury said:
Found a set of videos from a former floor manager of Create and Craft on YouTube, going through his redundancy story.

He said they were promised they were going to be paid, even given there pay slips, but they received nothing, as they went into administration, he was told he had to claim the money back from the government.

It’s on a YouTube channel called Ben and my cat
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Yeah, as soon as Honchanda went into admin, then any assets they have are frozen and whomever is appointed to be the administrator takes over. Doesn't matter what was promised by Honchanda they no longer have control. It would depend on whether the Aministrator can save the business (ie find another buyer) or it gets wound up totally, in which case the only hope the floor manager probably has is to make a claim with the administrators and hope there is enough assets to provide funds for payments, there is a priority for paying out in insolvency, staff wages etc are quite high up on the list if there is any money.
 
Duke of Cheese said:
Their whole rationale of selling seems to be based upon scaremongering, or bigging up items as being rare and desirable at bargain basement prices, which essentially they are not. What was it Gob on a Stick said yesterday- 'Champagne Living for Beer Money Prices' or words to that effect. That's the ludicrous dream that they are trying to sell to the poor saps watching
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Selling tat under the illusion of premium is the channel's entire raison d'être these days.

One ludicrous 'example' which has always stuck in my mind was when someone was selling a defunct British department store branded Far Eastern watch and said something to the effect to the 'gents' watching:

"When people see this on your wrist they'll know you've made it. The quality… you'll know you've made it. You're not just buying a watch here, you're buying into a lifestyle. You're entering first class, you're being walked to your seat, and you're being handed that glass of champagne that's rightfully yours…"​

No doubt qualified with reverse psychology claptrap of "you're your own boss, I can't tell you what you think, but I bet you can spot the deal of all deals/quality/opportunity when you see it."

Yeah. I bet.

First class is full of people who spend £399 on a £20 watch on the basis everyone else pays £1999 "all day long and twice on Sundays".
 
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Duke of Cheese said:
I imagine the view that is taken by the management and presenters of the core buying audience is they believe them to be old, generally out of touch, potentially socially isolated, looking for some kind of camaraderie and friendship from the television, and completely believing of whatever they are told on that basis.

There seems no pressure on the station to provide truthful and factual presentations. I would think they believe themselves to be completely untouchable by the toothless body that is supposed to monitor what they do. You could definitely say that on the spurious price comparison system they use. And also with the hysterical exaggerations they employ when they talk about weather forecasts for the country. I have frequently checked when you hear people like Simon stating certain areas of the country are going to be freezing on a particular evening, and I have usually found that that isn't the case.

Their whole rationale of selling seems to be based upon scaremongering, or bigging up items as being rare and desirable at bargain basement prices, which essentially they are not. What was it Gob on a Stick said yesterday- 'Champagne Living for Beer Money Prices' or words to that effect. That's the ludicrous dream that they are trying to sell to the poor saps watching

We all want to go to work and earn a good wage. Some of us want to earn that good wage behaving in a fair manner. Being honest and transparent with our customers if we are in a selling environment. So we can go home at night and feel proud of what we've done, rather than the alternative of just wanting to forget all about the BS you spouted and just enjoy the spoils of it. Take your own view which of those two scenarios the presenters on this channel employ when they get home to their warm, expensive houses.
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And the thing is, it is all unnecessary. People like a bargain. If they gave proper comparisons and let people decide for themselves it would be much more honest. But they have to make out that every single product is comparable to the same big brand version. Therefore manipulating to the extreme. An example of a good product is those giant STANLEY branded mugs with plastic or metal straws that everyone is going for. They had them on for a tenner a couple of months ago they were branded as TJC Home and had the Ideal World logo on the box. The other day I was in Lakeland and they had the STANLEY branded one for 45 quid. Now I do Zoom calls that last about 3 hours on Mon and Thursdays so I got one (from Ideal World) me to put tea in to save me getting up and down. Their own brand one is not bad at all. Does the job for a fraction of the price. Why can't they do was Rob Lamar used to do and just say it is what it is cheap and potentially useful.
 

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HughTwo said:
Like Dirty Pedro, I live in a draughty hovel but I know what no amount of ceramic heaters, sherpa blankets and corded/cordless vacuums will do anything but waste money.
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Every IW presenter has become a heating "expert" practically overnight. I guarantee you that there isn't a single Science GCSE between the lot of them. 😗
 
Duke of Cheese said:
I imagine the view that is taken by the management and presenters of the core buying audience is they believe them to be old, generally out of touch, potentially socially isolated, looking for some kind of camaraderie and friendship from the television, and completely believing of whatever they are told on that basis.
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Always remember, family, friendship, fun is the foundation of these channels. Oops sorry let me correct that ...

Faux family, friendship, fun ;)
 
I’ve seen one or two things on IW that are reasonably priced for what they are. Rather than showing/stating stupidly high priced comparisons, which bear little resemblance to the products they’re selling, they should be highlighting the good points and value for money.

I don’t want to see a £20 faux leather handbag being compared to a £5000 leather designer bag. Blackwall Tunnel Gob was selling a plastic shoulder bag and purse at £9.99 but comparing it to a £500 designer one. No I wouldn’t have bought it but I know a neighbours little girl who would love it.

Many years ago I bought a halogen oven from IW2 (pre Bid presenters). They gave a full airing of what it did, how to clean it etc and big selling point was that the lid was hinged. The only comparison was that most other brands had lift off lids. This was the main reason I bought it as I have a limited workspace and a hinged lid was better for me.
 
galesgal57 said:
Are you feeling Christmassy asks Mike? We've got a magnifying glass, bedding and Emu Balm. Jingle Bells.
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I have to agree that nothing epitomes Christmas more than a magnifying glass, bedding and Emu balm.

If I had a rude mind (which of course I don't), I would be wondering if the products are linked: bedding, magnifying glass, and then needing the Emu balm afterwards🤪
 

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