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Vienna, I remember the footballer's wife, although of course there may have been more than one footballer's wife who hit the headlines re: cosmetic work - but the one I'm thinking of had an op and sadly died from complications (believe it was a tummy op) - absolutely dreadful, she was just a young woman in her 20s or 30s. I so agree with your last sentence - if you have to have surgery because of a painful, disfiguring or life-threatening condition, that's bad enough. No surgery comes without risks, even from the anaesthetic, as any anaesthetist will tell you. And I don't care what anyone says, the work celebs have had done on their faces does show - they may kid themselves it doesn't, but it does - and repeated work makes them look like something from the Chamber of Horrors, even with (presumably) the best cosmetic surgeons in the world! And some of their cosmetic dentistry - don't get me started on celebs such as Simon Cowell or Liz Jones, the newspaper columnist, - in my opinion their 'fluorescent' teeth look ridiculous and more like false teeth.
 
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Vienna, I remember the footballer's wife, although of course there may have been more than one footballer's wife who hit the headlines re: cosmetic work - but the one I'm thinking of had an op and sadly died from complications (believe it was a tummy op) - absolutely dreadful, she was just a young woman in her 20s or 30s. I so agree with your last sentence - if you have to have surgery because of a painful, disfiguring or life-threatening condition, that's bad enough. No surgery comes without risks, even from the anaesthetic, as any anaesthetist will tell you. And I don't care what anyone says, the work celebs have had done on their faces does show - they may kid themselves it doesn't, but it does - and repeated work makes them look like something from the Chamber of Horrors, even with (presumably) the best cosmetic surgeons in the world! And some of their cosmetic dentistry - don't get me started on celebs such as Simon Cowell or Liz Jones, the newspaper columnist, - in my opinion their 'fluorescent' teeth look ridiculous and more like false teeth.
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Yes there`s always one cosmetic operation too many, think Joan Rivers. A lifetime of first botox, then fillers, then a nip, a tuck, then bigger more serious procedures, years of their body trying to heal after op after op, skin and body getting older, less likely to heal well, risk of infection, heart attack or long term damage. Nahhh I`ll stay old, ugly but hopefully alive !
 
I think there is a real problem with the fact that it's called "cosmetic" surgery. It sounds like something that is going to be safe and quick and easy, doesn't it? Cosmetics are what you put on your face each day to make you feel and look better. At the end of the day you get your cleanser and it's gone.

There must be a more accurate way to discribe this kind of surgery. It's invasive, permanent, life changing, and as high risk as any operation of the same duration (it's the amount of anaesthetic, and the length of time, combined with your general state of health)... so why this persistent delusion that it's quick, easy and safe??

Lesley Ash got some kind of infection when she ended up with the famous, unfortunate, trout-pout look. She was seriously ill with it, and because of the risks any further surgery poses, I think she was advised she had to live with it. It wrecked her career and exposed her to some really cruel coverage in the media... all for one decision to do something she must have thought would be simple and low-risk. I feel sorry for her, as getting older in the media is hard. Women in particular are judged far more harshly than men. They're too old and saggy, they're ridiculously taut-skinned and desperately trying to cling onto their youth, they're too fat, too thin....

Personally I think it's better for your own sanity to paddle your own canoe, and ignore media opinion. Make your own choices for yourself, not for any other reason than because it is something you have researched carefully, understood the risks and benefits that could affect you. You'll never please the media, or the casting director or anyone else. I think that if you start changing to try and suit others it's a dangerous road to travel.
 
I often wonder how the cosmetic surgeons themselves reconcile what they're doing to someone who, they must know, is going to look like Fright Night after the procedure? Or don't they care? I know there are probably slightly different medical ethics in different parts of the world, but surely these surgeons must know the effects of repeated work? Do they "advise" against it and the client ignores the advice? Why would they not refuse to do the procedure unless medically necessary? Is it the lure of the dosh? I read a biography of the late Duchess of Windsor (Wallis Simpson), and there was a truly horrifying account by the author of her having had so many "procedures" on her face and throat areas during her lifetime, that when (in her old age) the doctors tried to insert a tube to help her breathe, they couldn't do it - made you shiver just reading it.

Vienna said:
Yes there`s always one cosmetic operation too many, think Joan Rivers. A lifetime of first botox, then fillers, then a nip, a tuck, then bigger more serious procedures, years of their body trying to heal after op after op, skin and body getting older, less likely to heal well, risk of infection, heart attack or long term damage. Nahhh I`ll stay old, ugly but hopefully alive !
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:mysmilie_471: may, so very true. Your post says it all, really.
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I think there is a real problem with the fact that it's called "cosmetic" surgery. It sounds like something that is going to be safe and quick and easy, doesn't it? Cosmetics are what you put on your face each day to make you feel and look better. At the end of the day you get your cleanser and it's gone.

There must be a more accurate way to discribe this kind of surgery. It's invasive, permanent, life changing, and as high risk as any operation of the same duration (it's the amount of anaesthetic, and the length of time, combined with your general state of health)... so why this persistent delusion that it's quick, easy and safe??

Lesley Ash got some kind of infection when she ended up with the famous, unfortunate, trout-pout look. She was seriously ill with it, and because of the risks any further surgery poses, I think she was advised she had to live with it. It wrecked her career and exposed her to some really cruel coverage in the media... all for one decision to do something she must have thought would be simple and low-risk. I feel sorry for her, as getting older in the media is hard. Women in particular are judged far more harshly than men. They're too old and saggy, they're ridiculously taut-skinned and desperately trying to cling onto their youth, they're too fat, too thin....

Personally I think it's better for your own sanity to paddle your own canoe, and ignore media opinion. Make your own choices for yourself, not for any other reason than because it is something you have researched carefully, understood the risks and benefits that could affect you. You'll never please the media, or the casting director or anyone else. I think that if you start changing to try and suit others it's a dangerous road to travel.
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You read of people who have had so many face lifts they can`t close their eyes when they sleep and others who can`t breathe properly because of badly done nose jobs, not to mention badly placed implants, nipples dropping off, perforated bowels caused by badly done lipo suctiion and so on and so on. I watched the Bodyshockers programme with Katie Piper who has had umpteen ops after having acid thrown in her face leaving her nose, skin, eyes and lips badly damged and she sometimes just can`t get her head around the procedures some people choose to have and neither can I.
 
I know of someone local who died following a gastric band operation, complications of surgery.

Cosmetic surgery ads on tv are now creeping into the main advert breaks, especially on channel 5. It all serves to make it seem normal and an everyday thing, like a washing powder ad or something like that, very disturbing.
 
Some years ago I took my dear gran out for her 80th birthday and asked her what it was like to be that old (she sadly is no longer with us). She just laughed and said "oh but I'm still 21, I just need a good iron. Well, we laughed and laughed as she was the wrinkliest person ever but also the sweetest and loveliest. Grow old gracefully I say, beauty is within.

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....... Getting older in the media is hard.......They're too old and saggy, they're ridiculously taut-skinned and desperately trying to cling onto their youth, they're too fat, too thin....
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Just like the comments on some of the recent presenter threads on here then :wait:
 
My sister has botox for medical reasons. She`s disabled with dystonia and neuromyotonia ( sp ) and her face droops badly because both diseases affect nerves and muscles. She`s now in a wheelchair and is only able to manage a few steps and when her face goes into spasm it screws up so badly she cannot even see. Her botox was prescribed by her Consultant and she has it done in hospital as an outpatient. It helps to ease the facial spasms which are very painful as well as debilitating.
 
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My sister has botox for medical reasons. She`s disabled with dystonia and neuromyotonia ( sp ) and her face droops badly because both diseases affect nerves and muscles. She`s now in a wheelchair and is only able to manage a few steps and when her face goes into spasm it screws up so badly she cannot even see. Her botox was prescribed by her Consultant and she has it done in hospital as an outpatient. It helps to ease the facial spasms which are very painful as well as debilitating.
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all the best for your sister
 
Vienna said:
My sister has botox for medical reasons. She`s disabled with dystonia and neuromyotonia ( sp ) and her face droops badly because both diseases affect nerves and muscles. She`s now in a wheelchair and is only able to manage a few steps and when her face goes into spasm it screws up so badly she cannot even see. Her botox was prescribed by her Consultant and she has it done in hospital as an outpatient. It helps to ease the facial spasms which are very painful as well as debilitating.
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My uncle has a similar condition which makes his eye close - unfortunately he lost his other eye in an accident many years before so the spasms make him effectively blind.... Sod's law that it didn't occur on the other side of his face where it wouldn't have been such an issue.

He goes in to get injections every couple of months to deaden the nerves around his remaining eye - Botox has saved him from blindness.

Also, over the years, part of his damaged face has had to be plumped out with fat taken from his butt cheek - when we kiss him he jokes that we've just kissed his ar$e :giggle:.
 
The advert for cosmetic surgery that irritates me is where a young woman says she was given a job with the company after her 'op'. advising other women. Talk about using every angle to promote/persuade.
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You read of people who have had so many face lifts they can`t close their eyes when they sleep and others who can`t breathe properly because of badly done nose jobs, not to mention badly placed implants, nipples dropping off, perforated bowels caused by badly done lipo suctiion and so on and so on. I watched the Bodyshockers programme with Katie Piper who has had umpteen ops after having acid thrown in her face leaving her nose, skin, eyes and lips badly damged and she sometimes just can`t get her head around the procedures some people choose to have and neither can I.
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I can't get my head round why anyone would be so evil as to chuck acid in someone's face. Why would you do that.? There's so many victims and not one deserves the terrible disfigurement that comes with it. Those with minor imperfections that moan should just take note.

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candycane said:
I can't get my head round why anyone would be so evil as to chuck acid in someone's face. Why would you do that.? There's so many victims and not one deserves the terrible disfigurement that comes with it. Those with minor imperfections that moan should just take note.

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There are some sick, vile people out there. :sad:
 

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