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I take cod liver oil capsules as they do seem to ease my joints. Nit sure if they actually do or it’s just my mind thinks they do. I think I probably spend about £25 a year for them.
I've got rheumatoid arthritis and take high strength cod liver oil. They haven't been proven to work so the medical profession won't recommend them. However my RA consultant said that a lot of people swear by them and they won't do me any harm. He said it in a positive way and wasn't being dismissive. I felt it was as near as he could get without actually recommending them. An as you say not expensive.

My RA is totally under control but that is more likely to be the medication I take.
 
Torchy is almost as bad as Foghorn with bragging. He has his expensive watch stash (his words). Now he's got an expensive fragrance collection. Are they selling two because they are having difficulty selling them?
he also seems to know diddly squat about expensive fragrance, creed is a brand name with different scents , eg creed aventus. He seems to think creed is just creed and thats it, based on some of his previous pitches.

The guy would wax lyrical over old spice and brut 33! 'people ask me, what's that' :LOL:
 
he also seems to know diddly squat about expensive fragrance, creed is a brand name with different scents , eg creed aventus. He seems to think creed is just creed and thats it, based on some of his previous pitches.

The guy would wax lyrical over old spice and brut 33! 'people ask me, what's that' :LOL:
Why when he says you know me, I would never lie to you do I think the opposite?
 
Interesting chat - based on facts - about taking supplements.
Dirty Peter was flogging "detox foot patches" and claimed they got rid of "anti-oxidants"
Of course, having anti-oxidants in your body is accepted as generally being a good thing - showing he will say anything off the top of his head.

On the subject of anti-oxidants, it's not easy to get large doses through supplementation.
A scientist I know - a real one - appeared on a TV show where they tested people who took large dose supplements. The blood tests show a very short term boost, but then the body reacted to take them down to normal levels.
That's what the body does, tries to maintain an equilibrium. One of the reasons why, contrary to what Dirty Pedro will claim, his collagen drinks didn't go straight to his knee and prevent a replacement operation.
 
Caught a couple of minutes with Torchy and the new presenter. ooh Wow.
Notice she has the IW prerequisite shiny face (as Fish Lipped Gargoyle) and a large verbal orifice (as Lindsay open your mouth swallow your face). Apart from Wow! Ooh! haven’t really heard her voice. Sorry but I’m in a bitchy mood today and I’ve got even more cynical about the presenters on IW3.
 
Looks just like him in a dress. 🤣 Not keen on the oohing and ashing.
I went on the IW YT feed earlier to check her out.
She was on last week with Paul Becque.
She was performing in the same manner today with Torchy.
Basically there to agree with him and say how great the product, wow the price so cheap etc, etc, etc.
She did a little bit of lead presenting with pillow man Alex.
She wasn't too bad to be honest, but needs to cut back on the over exaggeration.
That style probably works best when paired with someone boring, so Torchy and Alex are ideal.
 
You do realise ingesting collagen doesn't really do anything, right? You're just making a joke, aren't you?

Cos your stomach breaks preformed collagen back down into amino acids - the exact same amino acids you already get from protein (animal or plant they're literally identical, think of them as letters in an alphabet). A bit of digestive magic happens and eventually they end up in the liver which uses the amino acid letters to make words (chains) for whatever the body needs - it needs a lot, and I mean a lot, gang.

Your body does not and cannot know which amino acids came from what. Your body will NOT go "ooh, hold on liver, those amino acids came from the Numi collagen drink so these are reserved for not only plumping up the skin, right, not only the aches and pains, okay, so don't use them for the thousands of other basic bodily functions that help keep me alive."

Necking a colourful carton of collagen drink (or popping supplements) makes people feel better, but, like, it's literally no different to eating food.

And the beauty studies about collagen supplements which show /scant/ benefits at best could as easily be explained by increased hydration (skin, joints, brain all NEED water, and few of us drink enough: an extra glass of water a day from taking a collagen pill means more hydrated, so people see/feel results but assume it's the pill and overlook the water).

If you're already eating a freak-ton of protein a day, adding more MAY help make more collagen PROVIDING you have excess aminos left over from everything else, you're healthy, and eating a balanced diet (collagen production requires other things to happen).

It is significantly cheaper to a) just eat protein rich food or if you really don't want to gain weight b) use amino acid powders body builders use. You can get a whacking great tub for about £8 and mix a spoonful with water and drink it (ideally with ample vitamin C over the course of the day if you're aiming to facilitate collagen as it can't be made without vitamin C which is a water soluble vitamin so it needs replacing every day as we pee it out).

But whatever the carton may claim, you cannot choose or control what happens to the amino acids in the "collagen pills" once your stomach has broken them down. Biology doesn't work like that… Hence Pedro's need to visit patio doors…
I'm afraid my wife doesn't agree with you.
She's been taking the collagen liquid supplements for quite a while now, probably nearly 2 years.
She has noticed some benefits from taking it, notably much stronger nails and improved skin. The main skin effect was plumping. They took about at least 3 months before being noticeable.
Hair also improved but that took about a year to be obvious.
Hasn't improved joints noticeably.
She did take a break from it at one point and started to notice a negative change. When she started again she noticed the benefits.
She actually takes slightly less than the recommended amount.
Don't expect instant results, in her experience, months may well needed, unlikely to be the week or ten days they very often allude to on IW.
 
I'm afraid my wife doesn't agree with you.
She's been taking the collagen liquid supplements for quite a while now, probably nearly 2 years.
She has noticed some benefits from taking it, notably much stronger nails and improved skin. The main skin effect was plumping. They took about at least 3 months before being noticeable.
Hair also improved but that took about a year to be obvious.
Hasn't improved joints noticeably.
She did take a break from it at one point and started to notice a negative change. When she started again she noticed the benefits.
She actually takes slightly less than the recommended amount.
Don't expect instant results, in her experience, months may well needed, unlikely to be the week or ten days they very often allude to on IW.
Pedro takes a double dose every day, and yet his nails are veneered and varnished.
 

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