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Currently watching Joe Remblance on Create and Craft, he is probably the most openly gay presenter on shopping telly

I know a couple of years ago he went to Glastonbury, and wore Glittery Rainbow Shorts according to Joe
 
She also has a very annoying habit of announcing who everybody is out of shot. I don’t mean to be rude for rudeness sake, but I couldn’t care less who the people are out of shot. This isn’t some national breakfast show with a participatory ‘crew’ that needs to be named. This is a shopping channel watched by a minuscule audience. In fact, it would probably be quicker for her to name the viewers than the crew.
 
Yes, that's it. I think he was very prickly about any suggestions or implications that he might have been a homosexual - though his constant insinuating it Dirty Peter style was fine, of course. Rather like QVC's Lee Holbein, who I believe threatened someone with legal action for suggesting that he was in a homosexual relationship. Now it's practically mandatory to be homosexual to be a BA/presenter on the Q, he's fine talking about it. He seemed to be labouring under the delusion that someone might actually care.
Yes, it a difficult one. I can’t remember the flippin’ bloke’s name now, but he used to demonstrate all the car cleaning products. Big tall bloke. Overtly heterosexual in manner as opposed to the vaguely camp persona I felt Howard demonstrated on air. I do recall, they were both standing by a Christmas tree in the studio, and the big tall bloke said words to the effect to Howard that ‘he should be the fairy on top of it’. Now in 1975, that probably would’ve been laughed off as funny by the intended recipient/victim of the gag. But we are used to that kind of thing not happening now, and clearly Howard was upset by it. I think his reply was along the lines of you are not allowed to say things like that these days. They carried on rather uneasily with the rest of the presentation after that.

I have to say I was surprised when they dug up that old clip of him on Blind Date from the early ‘90s, featuring Howard going out with a girl whom he was reunited with years later as part of the story. That said, I couldn’t care less generally, what anybody’s sexuality is nowadays. And plenty of people who present gay or straight on TV, aren’t necessarily gay or straight off-screen anyway. The main issue over I thought was more important over the Howard Ideal World thing, was the guy speaking completely inappropriately to him, and not Howard’s sexuality – gay or straight. Where I did care in the past was when politicians, for example, presented as heterosexual family men, and were then later found out to living a completely different life, at odds with their public and electorate friendly image. To me that is grand hypocrisy and was wrong.
 
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Yes, it a difficult one. I can’t remember the flippin’ bloke’s name now, but he used to demonstrate all the car cleaning products. Big tall bloke. Overtly heterosexual in manner as opposed to the vaguely camp persona I felt Howard demonstrated on air. I do recall, they were both standing by a Christmas tree in the studio, and the big tall bloke said words to the effect to Howard that ‘he should be the fairy on top of it’. Now in 1975, that probably would’ve been laughed off as funny by the intended recipient/victim of the gag. But we are used to that kind of thing not happening now, and clearly Howard was upset by it. I think his reply was along the lines of you are not allowed to say things like that these days. They carried on rather uneasily with the rest of the presentation after that.

I have to say I was surprised when they dug up that old clip of him on Blind Date from the early ‘90s, featuring Howard going out with a girl whom he was reunited with years later as part of the story. That said, I couldn’t care less generally, what anybody’s sexuality is nowadays. And plenty of people who present gay or straight on TV, aren’t necessarily gay or straight off-screen anyway. The main issue over I thought was more important over the Howard Ideal World thing, was the guy speaking completely inappropriately to him, and not Howard’s sexuality – gay or straight. Where I did care in the past was when politicians, for example, presented as heterosexual family men, and were then later found out to living a completely different life, at odds with their public and electorate friendly image. To me that is grand hypocrisy and was wrong.
Was it Lloyd
 
I don’t know how many of you have heard of Nigel May, Think he worked for IW and then Create and Craft and now Hobbymaker.

He used to be smutty at times, there was a floor manager called Scott, Nigel would call him Scotty Scotty the email hotee
 
was he the 'buff buff buff' guy?
yeah, Lloyd. Annoying but amiable. I actually saw the comment the made to Howard live and it didn’t strike me as intentionally malicious or overtly derogatory. It came off like banter. Dated banter, but …friendly.

I think Howard, being a bit of a prima Donna wannabe celeb (see his socials), saw an opportunity to get attention out of it.

Lloyd was not allowed back on IW after.
 
Yes, it a difficult one. I can’t remember the flippin’ bloke’s name now, but he used to demonstrate all the car cleaning products. Big tall bloke. Overtly heterosexual in manner as opposed to the vaguely camp persona I felt Howard demonstrated on air. I do recall, they were both standing by a Christmas tree in the studio, and the big tall bloke said words to the effect to Howard that ‘he should be the fairy on top of it’. Now in 1975, that probably would’ve been laughed off as funny by the intended recipient/victim of the gag. But we are used to that kind of thing not happening now, and clearly Howard was upset by it. I think his reply was along the lines of you are not allowed to say things like that these days. They carried on rather uneasily with the rest of the presentation after that.

I have to say I was surprised when they dug up that old clip of him on Blind Date from the early ‘90s, featuring Howard going out with a girl whom he was reunited with years later as part of the story. That said, I couldn’t care less generally, what anybody’s sexuality is nowadays. And plenty of people who present gay or straight on TV, aren’t necessarily gay or straight off-screen anyway. The main issue over I thought was more important over the Howard Ideal World thing, was the guy speaking completely inappropriately to him, and not Howard’s sexuality – gay or straight. Where I did care in the past was when politicians, for example, presented as heterosexual family men, and were then later found out to living a completely different life, at odds with their public and electorate friendly image. To me that is grand hypocrisy and was wrong.
I think his name was Howard Griffiths.

Regarding your comment about respectable politicians living a lie made me remember the comedy Little Britain. I liked the sketch they did regularly with David Walliams as the respectable politicians in an expensive suit standing next to his wife (Matt Lucas in a dress) giving a press statement. Giving an innocent explanation of why his head was in the lap of another man in a car at a dogging site🤣. They varied it each week but always the same theme.
 
I suspect the general view taken by the ones that do the ‘subtle’ ones is most of the views are too daft to notice. Which shows how much respect they have for the viewers in general.
I’m not so sure. If they are aiming at the oldies then they may think smut is a good way to go. Gotta remember us oldies come from a generation when smut was the norm.
 

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