Prai TSV 29/04/21

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When I tried it I found it too sticky so I just use the hyaluronic acid serum, that I mentioned in another thread, on my neck. It sinks in quickly and isn’t sticky. I’ve tried most of the expensive “premium” brands in the past, so it’s slightly ironic that a £12.99 one works for me.
 
When I tried it I found it too sticky so I just use the hyaluronic acid serum, that I mentioned in another thread, on my neck. It sinks in quickly and isn’t sticky. I’ve tried most of the expensive “premium” brands in the past, so it’s slightly ironic that a £12.99 one works for me.
Well that’s your second tip of the day for me! 😀 When mine arrives I may have to use it out of order, which is not something I would usually do! Or be able to contemplate doing!

I noticed some comments on the serum on Amazon said the consistency was very watery, whereas others said it was a light gel. How do you find it and does it ever vary? Thanks.
 
I’ve found the quality to be pretty consistent and I’ve ordered loads of bottles since I discovered it. It is a light gel and is fairly fluid but, personally, I wouldn’t say it was watery. I put some in the palm of my hand and apply to my face and neck with my fingers and I also take it up to the lower lash line.
 

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I was in M&S yesterday, there was a huge display of skincare products in the beauty section.
All had the word 'Meno' on the packaging. Meno this, Meno that.
Had a closer look and it was all by Prai, aimed at menopausal women.

Who on earth would want that word writ large all over their skincare products :rolleyes: 😳
 
I was in M&S yesterday, there was a huge display of skincare products in the beauty section.
All had the word 'Meno' on the packaging. Meno this, Meno that.
Had a closer look and it was all by Prai, aimed at menopausal women.

Who on earth would want that word writ large all over their skincare products :rolleyes: 😳
i saw that too!! & thought that seems so so dodgy but for now its exclusive to M&S

i saw that too!! & thought that seems so so dodgy but for now its exclusive to M&S

here it is if anyone wants it https://www.marksandspencer.com/MSF...10151&catalogId=10051&categoryId=0&typeAhead=
 
I'm actually happy to see anything that brings menopause to anyone's attention.

I'm having a nightmare menopause and being told by my GP there is no such thing as HRT patches or gel I insisted on a consult with a gynae. I ended up seeing a female paediatrician in her 30s who told me, "older women only want HRT to make themselves more attractive to younger men" :oops: I wish a really awful menopause on her!

I went private and am now successfully using a mix of patches and a gel.

WARNING: The next paragraph might be a bit TMI for some, so apologies in advance.

I've never liked Meg (can't remember the name, was married to a Gallagher brother) and wasn't impressed when watching her on QVC when she started blathering on about her wash being the right stuff for vaginas (really, Meg? You want us to put your wash UP there? I think you mean vulva. Get your anatomy correct before you start flogging stuff for it!). However, I have used her lube and found it better than expected (though I wouldn't have bought it if it hadn't been half price) - if I don't put lube on my tampons I get thrush as my flow is hit or miss even in the middle of my period.

A lovely lady doctor in the GUM clinic gave me that tip as I was having problems with multiple UTIs and lots of thrush associated with the antibiotics I was getting. She also taught me about double-voiding which had I known about it from my teens on would have saved me countless infections.
 
I'm actually happy to see anything that brings menopause to anyone's attention.

I'm having a nightmare menopause and being told by my GP there is no such thing as HRT patches or gel I insisted on a consult with a gynae. I ended up seeing a female paediatrician in her 30s who told me, "older women only want HRT to make themselves more attractive to younger men" :oops: I wish a really awful menopause on her!

I went private and am now successfully using a mix of patches and a gel.

WARNING: The next paragraph might be a bit TMI for some, so apologies in advance.

I've never liked Meg (can't remember the name, was married to a Gallagher brother) and wasn't impressed when watching her on QVC when she started blathering on about her wash being the right stuff for vaginas (really, Meg? You want us to put your wash UP there? I think you mean vulva. Get your anatomy correct before you start flogging stuff for it!). However, I have used her lube and found it better than expected (though I wouldn't have bought it if it hadn't been half price) - if I don't put lube on my tampons I get thrush as my flow is hit or miss even in the middle of my period.

A lovely lady doctor in the GUM clinic gave me that tip as I was having problems with multiple UTIs and lots of thrush associated with the antibiotics I was getting. She also taught me about double-voiding which had I known about it from my teens on would have saved me countless infections.
How on earth can a GP say there's no such thing as HRT patches or gel??? Sounds like you've been treated appalingly. I do sympathise with you AE - some doctors don't seem to give a ****. How come you're still having periods if you're menopausal? Are you peri? If so I suppose that might be a reason why a GP wouldn't want to start you on HRT but they should advise you on that 🤷‍♀️
 
200ml of neck cream. Count me in! And that is despite the garish packaging. I am not bothered about the filler. But I wonder if it will be too pricey....
 
I have never been tempted by the Prai brand, maybe because I can't listen to the BA, when she says (now Guls)...meaning Girls, I could throw something at the TV. I can't take to her at all.
 
I'm actually happy to see anything that brings menopause to anyone's attention.

I'm having a nightmare menopause and being told by my GP there is no such thing as HRT patches or gel I insisted on a consult with a gynae. I ended up seeing a female paediatrician in her 30s who told me, "older women only want HRT to make themselves more attractive to younger men" :oops: I wish a really awful menopause on her!

I went private and am now successfully using a mix of patches and a gel.

WARNING: The next paragraph might be a bit TMI for some, so apologies in advance.

I've never liked Meg (can't remember the name, was married to a Gallagher brother) and wasn't impressed when watching her on QVC when she started blathering on about her wash being the right stuff for vaginas (really, Meg? You want us to put your wash UP there? I think you mean vulva. Get your anatomy correct before you start flogging stuff for it!). However, I have used her lube and found it better than expected (though I wouldn't have bought it if it hadn't been half price) - if I don't put lube on my tampons I get thrush as my flow is hit or miss even in the middle of my period.

A lovely lady doctor in the GUM clinic gave me that tip as I was having problems with multiple UTIs and lots of thrush associated with the antibiotics I was getting. She also taught me about double-voiding which had I known about it from my teens on would have saved me countless infections.
My male doctor refused to give me HRT. He said he only prescription if women really needed it! Now, I have a dodgy thyroid and sailed through my menopause. But now I have osteoporosis, and it has been mentioned to me, I should have been given HRT which would have helped my bones.
 
How on earth can a GP say there's no such thing as HRT patches or gel??? Sounds like you've been treated appalingly. I do sympathise with you AE - some doctors don't seem to give a ****. How come you're still having periods if you're menopausal? Are you peri? If so I suppose that might be a reason why a GP wouldn't want to start you on HRT but they should advise you on that 🤷‍♀️

As I still have a womb I have to have the combination HRT with progesterone as unopposed oestrogen can cause the womb lining to build up so it needs to shed every month like a natural period.

I eventually saw a gynae at a maternity clinic but she was willing to get in touch with colleagues for advice as there are very few doctors out there that know anything about HRT. I'm nearly a year overdue a scan as my lining was building up slightly (my dose has since been adjusted so I'm hoping my periods are sorting that out) and as my grandmother died of endometrial cancer, my gynae was a bit concerned. I'm hoping I'll get called soon.

As 50% of the population eventually goes through meno and 20% of us have a bad time I hope that women in the media drawing attention to it will get women better treatment.

My male doctor refused to give me HRT. He said he only prescription if women really needed it! Now, I have a dodgy thyroid and sailed through my menopause. But now I have osteoporosis, and it has been mentioned to me, I should have been given HRT which would have helped my bones.

This is why I'd like to see GPs getting better training. The report that came out a few decades ago made women and medical professionals wary of something that goes way beyond treating flushes and 'making older women more attractive to younger men' (I'm still :mad: about this). I spoke to a female doctor with an interest in women's medicine who told me she wishes she'd taken it as the report turned out to be bunkum and HRT is both heart and bone protective.

She also made the point that a heart attack can kill you a lot quicker than breast cancer and that for the small risk along with regular screening she'd rather see women take it as the cancer can be detected and cured.

I see in the press today that women taking multi-vits etc., have a better outcome with Covid. They're putting it down to biology. Maybe biology will actually become important to the medical community at last - more women actually die of heart attacks than men but doctors don't take women's complaints seriously as we don't have the same crushing chest pain as men. We get subtler symptoms such as a pain in the neck, jaw or arm. My mum had what she thought was indigestion. She wasn't taken seriously either. Drug trials have mainly male participants, too.

They're saying that this 'biology' is down to oestrogen which is a protective hormone in so many ways. We live decades longer than women did even 100 years ago. There is no need for women to have a poor quality of life after menopause. Even something as widely accepted (but not talked about much) as incontinence can develop or be so much worse in menopause.

I'm furious for you, Donna, And many other women with male or younger female GPs that have their health in old age worsened because they're too lazy to educate themselves about menopause and ALL its potential side effects.

Out of interest, it may not be too late for you if your osteoporosis is severe. My mum was put on HRT (with periods) for osteoporosis as hers, which was caused by over-prescription of steroids, was so bad her back collapsed, she lost 4 inches in height over a few weeks and spent the rest of her days in a body cast. Make sure you have your bone density checked frequently and check your calcium intake. See a specialist as too much calcium can be damaging to the heart and needs to be taken with other minerals to ensure it gets taken up by your bones. The National Osteoporosis Society has some good information.
 
I'm sure I wrote about this a few months ago so apologies for being boring. We have an annual health check courtesy of my Mr T's last job & I have the option of a DEXA scan. The last one was in December 2019 & my result was higher than the one in 2018 so I queried it & the person I spoke to put it down to the amount of fat free Greek yogurt I eat. I was very lucky that my menopause just happened two months after my 50th birthday - it was the week of the school staff panto! I can't have been perimenopausal because everything just stopped & the only 'post' aspect I get are hot flushes, that happen in clusters lasting a couple of months before they take a break for a few weeks, so I'm aware that I've got off lightly.
 

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