OH, Pleeeeease !

[Toril]

CIS
"denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth ***."

In other words, what used to be regarded as 'normal'. And at the risk of offending most of Twatter - that would be me then.

There’s a lot of us about.

 

[loveallthingsitalian]

How out of date am I - to me it means Construction Industry Scheme!

 

[SusieSue]

In my store we have a lots of special needs customers of all ages.

If they are accompanied by a carer both carer and their charge are wearing identification lanyards giving their name and preferred pro-noun, for example... My name is Sharon Smith my pro-noun is miss.

Maybe it's time to do away with all the pro-nouns of Miss, Mrs, Ms, Mr etc to save on confusion and to avoid giving offence where none is intended.

 

[Brissles]

I doubt whether the rest of the world will give up their Senora / Senorita .... Frau / Fraulein ...... Madame / Madamoiselle for the sake of a minority group.

 

[Patsy]

Just seen on our local BBC new app that South Yorkshire is to hold a Menopause Conference.
I'm just about fed up with menopause being shoved down my throat. Moisturisers, shampoos etc everywhere.

 

[Toril]

I wonder how women coped before all the publicity about the menopause. I was lucky and sailed through mine but, had I had problems, I would have gone to my GP rather than buy lotions and potions recommended by a shopping channel or the media.

 

[Patsy]

I wonder how women coped before all the publicity about the menopause. I was lucky and sailed through mine but, had I had problems, I would have gone to my GP rather than buy lotions and potions recommended by a shopping channel or the media.

I know. Hubby was reading something about getting paid time off.

 

[maymorganlondon]

I have mixed feelings about this. I detest the marching and sleb bandwagoneers, but issues around women’s health have rarely been at the front of discourse unless it relates to having babies or getting plastic surgery. I’d also like to see more about the debilitating condition endometriosis which still takes an average of 7 YEARS to get a diagnosis, because women reporting abdominal pain is just put down to period pain.
Some women experience menopausal symptoms and endometriosis symptoms to a disabling extent. Just because in the past we’ve had to grind through without extra consideration or accommodation given to this doesn’t, in my view, mean it shouldn’t become a thing. At one point doctors opposed junior doctors having a maximum number of hours worked in a week because they’d had to do it. We are urged not to drive when tired, so why would we want doctors who are exhausted making life or death decisions? Menopause can be exhausting. Do we just say if you can’t function due to lack of sleep courtesy of night sweats you are just to suck it up even if you then offer poorer performance? Do we then blame them for something outside of their control?
In every generation we learn more about all sorts of things, and improve the quality of life for ourselves and those coming after us. Until they come up with a foolproof way of regulating women’s hormones and genetics so that menopause becomes plain sailing for all… and eliminate conditions such as endometriosis… there will always be women who genuinely need some extra support to continue working and contributing to society, I believe.

 

[Muttley]

I wonder how women coped before all the publicity about the menopause. I was lucky and sailed through mine but, had I had problems, I would have gone to my GP rather than buy lotions and potions recommended by a shopping channel or the media.

I remember a Victoria Wood sketch where she was playing a tough older woman. She said "We didn't go round having hysterectomies every 2 minutes like the girls do these days. If something went wrong down below we kept our gobs shut and turned up the wireless"

 

[boffy]

I know. Hubby was reading something about getting paid time off.

If they let men and women retire at 60 that would be a good start.

 

[donna255]

I am waiting for the next step in selling.

Yes, first came menopause, but you survived now comes those brave women who fought menopause and now have become older women! Yes, how dare this past 50s be allowed out in public, they have been invisible to companies selling beauty and fashion. Plays dramatic music. Now they step forward. Strong women, no longer chained down by the menopause. QVC are here for you and want you to buy, buy and buy more from us.

 

[SnowMoon]

I have to say, when the menopause fairy came to visit my house, about a decade ago, I had to go out and hunt down a book about it. Mum had had a hysterectomy in her mid- thirties so she couldn't advise me. No Sisters and nobody older than me to ask. It struck me, at the time, as a bit sad that when I was heading to puberty someone came to the school to talk to us all about it. We were given books - info overload. Menopause, nobody was talking about it at all. Nobody said, for example, that for a while you might still get cramps and period pains but no period - it was nothing to worry about. I think it is good people are talking about it now - rather than hushed whispers and jokes about hot flushes. But I do think the telly selly aspect of it is overkill.

 

[User 27140]

I remember a Victoria Wood sketch where she was playing a tough older woman. She said "We didn't go round having hysterectomies every 2 minutes like the girls do these days. If something went wrong down below we kept our gobs shut and turned up the wireless"

But that didn’t make it right. My grandmothers and mother didn’t have to work full time at 54 with only two hours sleep, embarrassing flushes and flooding. I would like a society which moves forward and improve not stagnate because being stoic and uncomplaining is seen as a female virtue. If men had the menopause, you bet they would be allowed time off and special consideration.

 

[Muttley]

But that didn’t make it right. My grandmothers and mother didn’t have to work full time at 54 with only two hours sleep, embarrassing flushes and flooding. I would like a society which moves forward and improve not stagnate because being stoic and uncomplaining is seen as a female virtue. If men had the menopause, you bet they would be allowed time off and special consideration.

Absolutely, the sketch was funny because of her intolerant character.

Where I work there is a lot of consideration for staff welfare. We have lots of diversity groups - gender equality, wellbeing, disability, carers etc, the sole aim being to support staff. We also have mental health first aiders who can direct you to the most suitable support. We've had quite a few menopause inputs recently, which have been helpful. And men are encouraged to join the sessions.

I don't like it when celebs or shopping channels jump on the bandwagon and use it to promote themselves but I hope life gets a bit more open and women can suffer in silence less.

However this doesn't apply to that Bridgerton style advert for tampons when the lady complains about a 'bloody mess'. I thought I was unshockable but I was wrong.

 

[catzrcool]

I had endometriosis and was very poorly every month. All my innards were stuck to one another. Took a lady surgeon to do the op. None of the men specialists wanted to give me my hysterectomy. Said it could go wrong and my bladder and bowel could be damaged and they were worried about that .

Anyway had it done, no damage done. But I instantly went into the "change". Wouldn't give me HRT as my granny had breast cancer when she died. So I had to just get on with life. Hot flushes were nothing compared to having endometriosis, and I was still recovering from my Op, but I just had to accept that I would get no help.

But my menopause was not bad really and I was just so glad that I had no more monthly problems that I didn't care much about hot flushes. I didn't get moody or depressed so maybe I was lucky.

I get the email from Q about the menopause and I delete every one. For anyone really suffering, I think a visit to the docs would be better than getting advice from a Shopping channel.

 

[alter ego]

How out of date am I - to me it means Construction Industry Scheme!

And that's the only thing it should mean!

 

[Patsy]

If they let men and women retire at 60 that would be a good start.

There was a post in either The Guardian or Telegraph regarding State Pension being unaffordable and one comment was DNR should be on everybody over 70's medical records.

 

[alter ego]

In my store we have a lots of special needs customers of all ages.

If they are accompanied by a carer both carer and their charge are wearing identification lanyards giving their name and preferred pro-noun, for example... My name is Sharon Smith my pro-noun is miss.

Maybe it's time to do away with all the pro-nouns of Miss, Mrs, Ms, Mr etc to save on confusion and to avoid giving offence where none is intended.

This is the thing with all the gender/pronoun BS. They target autistic people or people with special needs. The online pronoun brigade like nothing better than to have likes and followers and they get them much of the time by targetting younger people online.

My autistic gay nephew has been targeted and became ashamed enough of his sexuality that he started telling us he needed to 'become' a woman. After many long talks and finally seeing a counsellor, he decided not to follow that path and is now in a happy long-term relationship.

 

[alter ego]

There was a post in either The Guardian or Telegraph regarding State Pension being unaffordable and one comment was DNR should be on everybody over 70's medical records.

So we've done our bit but should we become ill we're of no further use? The stuff of sci-fi nightmares.

I have a good friend quite high up in City trading. She said about 25 years ago that state pension will be withdrawn over the following decades.

 

[alter ego]

I do wonder how we managed to get through those years before QVC found the ‘menopause’ …

Those trans men - their choice, deal with it!

I totally agree.

I do feel for the very tiny minority that genuinely struggles with dysphoria but I also object to those with an agenda to push youngsters to 'change' ***. Large organisations with a lot of money behind them push this as LGB no longer pays (legalising marriage finished that cause off). Scotland pushing the GRR. Why? If a person wants to legally change their gender they should have to go through hoops or the system gets abused and men like Isla Bryson, Karen White and many others put women in danger.

My friend is a music and arts teacher. She has abuse from some of the boys due to the Andrew Tate effect but says she'd rather suffer that than be a teen girl now. Some are so traumatised by abuse and nastiness from boys her age that they bind their breasts to hide them and pretend to be lesbians. Some girls are going the '***-change' route because of this but my friend says these are the girls that in a decade will de-transition after mutilating their bodies.

The boys in her school started abusing the system and 'identifying' as female to gain access to toilets and changing rooms. After many complaints from parents the school took it upon itself to change the toilets to gender-neutral. That solved that little problem but due to HSE regs gaps under/over doors have been left so now the boys are sneaking photos with their phones and damaging sanitary bins.

I honestly despair.