Wish I'd read that before buying the Mally! I've only tried it twice so far - it's not bad, you do have to be careful it doesn't dislodge your foudnation (I use BM), but if you sort of splodge it on rather than sweep, it seems to hold. I could see an instant mattifying effect on my forehead, the only bit of my T zone now left that gets greasy, and it does make your skin feel very nice and silky. Appearance wise, can't say it's wowed me yet but I do have a stinking cold so am not looking my best! As for mineral veil, it's just about the only product I can't see the point of, can't see or feel or notice any difference whether i wear it or not. I do persevere with it but can honestly say, I have no idea why! Sorry - not much help either way am I! And I've found that there's a Space NK near me so I'm off for a try of the powder this week.