thanks Koala, I'm going to make a list of all the recommendations and Google away!! I've not heard of Upcircle.
thanks Claire. I keep meaning to try Aldi hot cloth cleaner, I haven't bought Liz Earle and L'Occitane for years ( cannot abide watching Alexis). Molton Brown is a favourite of mine but the price rises in not prepared to pay anymore. I'm currently using a Marks and Spencer bath/shower , Rhubarb, vanilla and rose. Large bottle, doesn't dry out my skin and £7.50 a big bottle, I tend to buy when there's a 20% off offer on. I did a sneaky thing and filled my empty Molton Brown hand wash with Aldis own, Rhubarb and Rose. Everybody comments on my "posh" handwash!!!! I don't let on its cheap as chips, does the same job and smells lovely!
when my Elemis toner runs out I will try the Simple one.