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This thread is for discussion of all things Asda, their business, their products, their prices. And anything else Asda-related.

Hopefully this can be a better, more sociable, community discussion area for those interested in discussing topics concerning Asda.
 
Still no CEO.

But someone has seen sense and brought back Rollback and the Asda Price pocket tap.
 
I know My mum and dad get a online order from Asda weekly, and half the time there are numerous subs
 
I know My mum and dad get a online order from Asda weekly, and half the time there are numerous subs
Yeah. It happens. I do an Asda shop every 2 or 3 weeks, if not Tesco/Sainsbury's, and I usually get a few substitutes, but not many.

Also, it depends when you order and check their stock. Typically if you order or amend the order the day before delivery, you get up to date stock info and they're less likely to not have something you order.

Whereas if you order a week ahead, and don't amend/check the day before, by the time the delivery happens, some of your order may get substituted.

I don't pay or setup a weekly regular order.
 
Mum and dad do a regular setup thing, We get shopping on a Friday, I think you have Gi order on the Tuesday. But can change the order up to the Thursday Night.

I know our local Asda isn’t one of the biggest Which might not help
 
I have a midweek pass, think I'm just about three years having an online shop every two weeks.

I find them really good now and haven't had any issues for a long time. I constantly amend my order and keep adding or subtracting stuff. Sometimes things go in my favour like the extra pack of coffee sachets I had last week lol
 
I have a midweek pass, think I'm just about three years having an online shop every two weeks.

I find them really good now and haven't had any issues for a long time. I constantly amend my order and keep adding or subtracting stuff. Sometimes things go in my favour like the extra pack of coffee sachets I had last week lol
Yep, I find refunds for poor quality, unsuitable substitutes, short date, etc. better than if I shopped in-store!
Often get an extra or freebee too.

Weirdly, the pickers at my store do a better, more accurate job, than when it came from the fully automated dark delivery warehouse that only had a human at the end packing/checking the totes (crates) on a computer screen. Used to get weird extras, missing and strange items added or weird substitutes.
 
...For those seeking retail therapy in a luxury shopping destination, Walthamstow high street probably isn’t top of the list. Yet even here among the payday lenders, pawn shops, bookies and greasy spoons, there is still something shocking about the state of the local Asda.

It shouldn’t really be a surprise, however. In 2023, food hygiene inspectors gave it a zero out of five rating: the worst possible score that a business premises can receive with every area requiring “major improvement”.


In the wake of the damning report, chastened managers said they had addressed the concerns and it was later awarded a three-star rating.

On a bitterly cold and damp January afternoon, the entrance is so quiet a passerby might mistakenly think the store is closed. There are customers dotted around inside but not many. Perhaps only the most loyal shoppers still come here.

Empty cardboard boxes, plastic crates and large metal cages sit abandoned in aisles. Packaging containing food meant for the shelves are un-emptied.

In other parts of the store, pallets stacked high with produce have been wheeled out and left, still covered in plastic shrink wrap. Fresh bread is in short supply and the halal food section was empty altogether.

Asda in Walthamstow, north London,
For many, a semi-desolate Asda store in Walthamstow epitomises the supermarket’s recent decline
For the unions, Asda’s problems in this corner of the capital – and in other stores across the country – are emblematic of the retailer’s sharp decline since it was sold to Blackburn petrol station tycoons Mohsin and Zuber Issa, and secretive financiers TDR Capital, in a debt-fuelled £7bn deal in 2021.
 
It is a straightforward trade-off, critics argue. The takeover has left Asda stores starved of much-needed investment because it is having to divert hundreds of millions of pounds every year towards interest payments on the debts that its owners took out to finance their swoop.



“Asda’s woes aren’t simply the result of mismanagement. Servicing its debt mountain strips money from the business that should be invested elsewhere,” Nadine Houghton, national officer for the GMB trade union, said.



Stores have fallen into disrepair. Complaints about poor pay and long hours have led to an exodus of disenchanted employees, while disgruntled customers have left in their hordes, allowing Asda’s arch rivals to swoop in and hoover up market share on a previously unseen scale.



Since the sale in 2021, Asda’s market share has plunged from 14.8pc to 12.6pc, according to figures from Kantar. Not only has this allowed Tesco and Sainsbury’s to strengthen their grip on the grocery market, it has also raised the prospect of Asda losing its crown as Britain’s third-largest supermarket to German discounter Aldi.



As Asda’s plight has worsened, chaos has engulfed the boardroom, forcing the Issa brothers to deny rumours of a rift. Zuber has sold out and although Mohsin remains a shareholder, he has stepped down from the day-to-day running of the chain.



Meanwhile, a four-year-long search for a permanent chief executive goes on with no sign of it ending any time soon.



Even former chairman Lord Rose confessed to being “embarrassed” by the mess – a frank admission that appears to have persuaded TDR to pull the ripcord with the shock return of former boss Allan Leighton.



Feted as one of Britain’s top corporate fixers, Leighton made his name in the late 1990s when he and then-chairman Archie Norman, now chairman of Marks & Spencer, rescued Asda from insolvency. The pair dragged the chain back from the brink before orchestrating its near-£7bn sale to American retail giant Walmart.



Leighton’s return has sparked “euphoria” on the shop floor, a former senior employee said. “Allan going back and getting rid of Mohsin is like a double whammy”.



During his eight-year spell at Asda between 1992 and 2000, four as chief executive, turnover almost doubled from £4.53bn to £8.2bn, and profits jumped from £86.8m to £422.9m.



In his farewell letter to staff in 2000, Leighton said Asda had gone from “basket case” to being “one of the finest companies in the world”.



But more than 25 years after Leighton’s heyday at Asda, can those heroics be repeated? He is at pains to manage expectations, warning that a turnaround could take as long as five years, by which time he will be almost 77 years old.
 
As I have my shopping delivered, I never actually go into Asda, haven't been in for years. My friend/neighbour does the opposite and she has remarked to me a few times how she hates shopping there now. When I asked her why, she said the aisles are full of staff 'picking' online orders and shelves are left empty in a lot of the aisles.

I will have to venture in one day and take a look for myself.
 
Allan Leighton is feted as one of Britain's top corporate fixers

Returning Asda boss Allan Leighton has vowed to ‘restore the supermarket’s DNA’ Credit: Eddie Mulholland

Others question whether he can do it at all without Norman by his side. One City figure who worked closely with the pair at the time, calls them “the best double act I’ve ever seen”.



“But if you’ve only got one half of the partnership can you repeat the trick? That would be my question,” he cautioned.



With Asda bleeding market share and sales in a tailspin, the question might soon be what happens if he can’t.



Debt millstone

The £6.8bn takeover of Asda at the hands of the billionaire Issas in 2021 was accompanied by a shameless round of back-slapping.



Seller Walmart hailed the “entrepreneurial air” that the siblings would bring to the Leeds-based supermarket chain, having created a sprawling fuel and convenience store empire from scratch.



“We started with a single petrol station, I washed the restrooms, I manned the tills when I needed to,” Mohsin told MPs during the first of two select committee grillings in 2023. The brothers put in just £100m of their own money into the Asda buyout.



Even the future prime minister weighed in: “Great to see @asda returning to UK ownership,” then-chancellor Rishi Sunak proclaimed on social media.



Such pithy soundbites quickly proved to be at odds with the realities of a deal that left the grocer’s balance sheet saddled with billions of pounds of costly borrowings.



The Issas and TDR funded the purchase with loans and bonds loaded on to Asda’s own balance sheet. Their timing could scarcely have been worse, coming just as the era of super-cheap money screeched to a piercing halt.



issa brothers

Asda’s debt levels have gone through the roof under the Issa brothers’ joint ownership with TDR Credit: Jon Super/Alamy Stock Photo

Almost four years later and the financial burden of the deal takeover is laid bare by a thorough examination of Asda’s finances.



When Walmart handed over the supermarket after more than two decades of ownership, the company was almost debt-free, according to accounts filed at Companies House.



Borrowings consisted of an untapped £30m overdraft, standby facilities of nearly £100m and a separate £30m credit line. Annual finance costs stood at £67m, yet £66m of that was interest it paid out on leases. Just £900,000 was external interest. It was also sitting on a £1.2bn cash pile.



Under the joint ownership of the Issa family and TDR, debt levels have gone through the roof.



Borrowings now stand at nearly £6bn, leaving Asda saddled with eye-watering interest payments, which have got bigger as the retailer has been forced to rejig its existing debts at ever more punishing interest rates.





The official line from Asda House in Leeds is that its finances have become more manageable after the grocer pulled off a £3.2bn refinancing earlier this year. That story is betrayed by the numbers, however.



Though it delayed the repayment of billions of pounds to the bond markets in 2026, punishing interest rates of around 8pc on more than half its debts mean they’ve become more expensive.



In the first year of its new ownership, Asda racked up finance costs of £375m. The following year it had to find £396m. In 2023, the figure totalled £441m, driving down profits before tax to £180m on £25.6bn of turnover. Analysts at CreditSights expect £530m of payments in 2024 once the interest on store leases is factored in.



It means that since the deal, £1.7bn will have gone into the pockets of its lenders, landlords and other large creditors. In different circumstances, this vast sum could have been ploughed back into the business in price cuts, store refurbishments, and staff pay in a bid to recover lost ground.



One restructuring expert compares the need to service such a debt pile as “a millstone” around management’s neck.



An Asda spokesman said: “Asda is a highly cash-generative business and has a strong capital structure.”



With the swashbuckling Issa brothers leading the charge, Asda has at times resembled a giant experiment in financial engineering.



In 2023, with their heavily indebted EG Group petrol station empire facing £7bn of loan repayments in 2025, its UK and Ireland forecourts were sold to Asda in a £2.3bn deal.



It enabled EG Group to repay hundreds of millions of pounds of debt and push out the repayments on other borrowings – but it came at a steep cost to Asda. Bankrolled through a combination of debt, sale and leaseback deals, and shareholder loans, the tie-up lumbered Asda with £1.7bn of additional financial liabilities.



Shore Capital analyst Clive Black said the deal would leave Asda “hamstrung”, making it harder to compete on price at a time when surging interest rates have driven up the cost of its borrowings.
 
Walmart’s ‘cash cow’

Not all of Asda’s financial problems can be laid at the door of its current owners.



The official line from head office is that the Americans were a benevolent owner and Asda continues to benefit from Walmart’s retail nous in its capacity as a minority shareholder.



Yet in their increasingly desperate quest to deflect from TDR’s record, insiders highlight the frequency with which Walmart extracted billions of pounds in dividends from its UK outpost over the years.



“They treated it as a cash cow,” one Asda source said.



One of the largest payouts came just months before the sale to TDR and the Issas. Financial filings show that in 2020, with the pandemic in full swing, Walmart sanctioned nearly £3bn of one-off awards.



It was part of a firmly established pattern in which Asda’s profits were routinely redirected through a convoluted corporate structure back to its paymasters more than 4,000 miles away in Bentonville, Arkansas.



During the 2000s alone, Asda was the source of a total of £2.5bn of one-off dividends for Walmart, according to a trawl of corporate filings. In 2015, Walmart extracted a single £500m payment at a time when Asda was attempting to hold its own in a vicious new round of food price wars.



That costly legacy continues to weigh heavily as Asda has fought unsuccessfully to untangle itself from Walmart’s IT systems.



The embarrassing saga has so far cost Asda £800m and caused multiple problems with self-checkouts and stock-picking systems, as well a payroll crisis that left thousands of workers out of pocket and some having to rely on food banks.



Meanwhile, concerns have been raised about Walmart’s remaining 10pc shareholding, which is held through so-called preference shares, a form of debt.



Under this agreement, Asda could have to repay as much as £900m to Walmart by 2028, which analysts at ratings agency Fitch Ratings say could force a refinancing of its entire debt pile.



An Asda spokesman said last year: “We acknowledge Fitch’s view; however, it should be noted this reflects their opinion and is not a statement of fact.”



German threat

lidl warehouse

Lidl recently opened a 1.2m sq ft warehouse just outside Luton

On the outskirts of Luton, a stone’s throw from the M1, Lidl recently cut the ribbon on its largest ever warehouse.



Spanning 1.2m square feet and half a kilometre in length, the opening of the vast £300m distribution hub lays down the gauntlet to rivals who claim that the growth of the German discounters has already peaked.



The breakneck expansion of Aldi and Lidl’s no-frills, bargain food proposition across Britain has created a grocery market that has never been more fiercely competitive.



The most recent industry figures underline the scale of the challenge facing Leighton. Led by a resurgent Ocado, nearly every major supermarket registered significant sales gains over the vital Christmas period – except Asda.





“Asda is in much worse shape now. It’s really tough and the competition got better. The only consolation perhaps is that Morrisons is equally in the s--t too,” one retail chief said.



Yet even Morrisons, which has been forced to juggle the crippling costs of its own multibillion-pound private equity buyout, has staged a comeback of sorts.



The supermarket hailed its strongest period of trading since the beginning of 2021 following “a year of urgent reinvigoration”, boss Rami Baitiéh declared as Morrisons took back market share.



As the competition ups its game, things go from bad to worse at Asda. Having recorded its biggest year-on-year market share loss since records began in 1995, Asda experienced its worst Christmas since 2015 following a near-6pc sales slump.



Its slice of the market has tumbled from 14.8pc when TDR first invested to 12.6pc, and the retailer’s troubles have continued after another 5.2pc fall in like-for-like sales during the three months to the end of January.





Shabby shops and empty shelves have been blamed on repeated rounds of cost-cutting. “The stores are dirty, availability patchy … and checkout services have at times been non-existent. It’s not unreasonable to ask whether there was even a manager in some stores – if there was, Christ knows what they were doing,” Shore Capital’s Black said.



At times, even basic shopkeeping has been a struggle.



In 2024, Asda received a £250,000 fine for selling out-of-date food in its Sinfin store, on the outskirts of Derby, despite two previous warnings from Trading Standards officers. Some of the food, which was as much as six months out of date, was aimed at children. The store has since been awarded a five-star hygiene rating.



A former long-serving senior employee lays much of the blame for Asda’s demise at the door of the Issas.



“So many good people have left because of them. It has gone from being a really open and engaging business to … ‘do as you’re told’,” he claimed.



Staff morale appears to have been severely affected by job losses and the introduction of longer hours. In a recent staff survey, fewer than half its workers expressed confidence in management’s strategy.



Asda’s obsession with slashing overheads has even extended to the music that is being played in its shops. A shift to playing cheaper, unlicensed music in shops is the result of yet more penny-pinching, fed-up employees believe.



“I’d rather listen to the souls of the damned screaming at me,” one quipped.



While Leighton scrambles to arrest Asda’s decline, the Issa brothers have already moved on, albeit in separate directions.



Zuber, the younger of the two, is now attempting to cement his personal fortune by building a new petrol forecourts empire, EG On The Move, having sold his 22.5pc stake to TDR last year.



He is doing so without the help of Mohsin, who instead is attempting to recast himself as a champion of Northern start-ups.



While he remains a minority shareholder in Asda, the reclusive billionaire has emerged as a key investor in businesses such as Liverpool-based protein powder brand Applied Nutrition.



He has been joined in this quest by his new partner Victoria Price. The pair have set up a Jersey-based private fund whose first investment was in secondhand clothing website GoThrift.



Meanwhile, Asda’s setbacks have done little to damage the brothers’ rule over Blackburn.



Despite talk of a falling out, they continue to build five identical mansions in a rural corner of Lancashire, and a 95ft high mosque on the site of a former primary school. Next on their list is the revival of controversial plans to build Britain’s biggest Muslim cemetery, and plans for a £3m dentist in their home town.



TDR appears similarly unaffected by the troubles at its most high-profile investment. In December, the firm distributed a £44m payout to its top bosses. The windfall was shared between 17 partners, with the highest earner receiving nearly £3m.



Restoring ‘Asda’s DNA’

Leighton’s return has already lifted the gloom among Asda rank and file. The hope is that he will bring the energy and ideas of old that he and Norman deployed to great effect previously – even if at times some thought Leighton’s enthusiasm got the better of him.



“Sometimes things were lost in the execution,” said a former employee.



On one occasion in the 1990s, sources claimed Leighton ordered the trial of American drive-through store blueprints to wow visitors.



The prototype suffered from a fatal flaw, however. “They were in such a rush to build this thing to impress Walmart that they did it the wrong way around,” the source added.



There is no suggestion that Leighton was personally responsible for the mistake, which had no damaging consequences. An Asda spokesman declined to comment.



During Leighton’s previous tenure at Asda, former employees claim his enthusiasm sometimes got the better of him

Upon taking over last November, Leighton sought to quickly establish his authority via a flurry of Zoom calls with senior managers.



He has vowed to “restore Asda’s DNA” by cutting prices and improving product availability. The “pocket tap” advert that first hit TV screens in the 1970s has been revived again, this time fronted by fitness guru Joe Wicks, as has its Rollback price cut initiative as part of an aggressive fightback.



The prices of more than 4,000 products have been slashed by a quarter on average and Leighton has pledged to make Asda’s entire product range cheaper than rivals within two years.



An Asda spokesman: “We are refocusing on what Asda is famous for by helping hard-working families save money and providing a good experience for customers.”



Supporters of Leighton believe if anyone can engineer a revival it is him.
 

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