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For the same reason that the media refers to Z listers not being as the same status as A listers ! Its not just US on here that do comparables !
 
I'd bet Jackie was simply repeating what she'd been told. TV presenters rarely do their own research unless they're producing, writing and presenting a news or documentary piece. When they're just presenting a piece the normal process is for them to be handed cards with all the relevant info, provided by the production team. We often see the presenters looking at their cards for information. Presenters are employed to present and the production staff are employed to provide the presenters with the information they need to present.

Any presenter worth their salt would have checked out the facts (they were so off the wall) even if it was just to satisfy their own curiosity.
Nothing will convince me it wasn't her own (mis) research.

It was Bella Vita which has been on Q for a couple of years now, everyone talks about them being the same company as Bronzo Italia (even same guest) and Veronese. All these are under the company Milor an Italian manufacturer (no s**e Sherlock) but according to JK it is a designer in Arkansas in a 100 year old building.
 
Exactly - people can say what they want, who knows whether it's true or not? As an (employed :wink:) lawyer might say: "where's the evidence?"

Let's face it we can be anything we want to be, who knows. I might be a 21 year old model married to a millionaire but then again I might not.
 
Any presenter worth their salt would have checked out the facts (they were so off the wall) even if it was just to satisfy their own curiosity.
Nothing will convince me it wasn't her own (mis) research.

It was Bella Vita which has been on Q for a couple of years now, everyone talks about them being the same company as Bronzo Italia (even same guest) and Veronese. All these are under the company Milor an Italian manufacturer (no s**e Sherlock) but according to JK it is a designer in Arkansas in a 100 year old building.

And as we established at the time, there is a company called Bella Vita in Arkansas working out of the 100 year old building. I'd bet the info was provided by a new staff member who didn't know the jewellery companies. The facts are only off the wall if you know about Q jewellery. I'm not in the least interested in jewellery and have never heard of Bella Vita, Bronzo Italia or Milor, so a company in Arkansas would seem perfectly reasonable to someone like me. Whether you believe it or not, presenters rarely do their own research on this kind of programming - if they did there'd be no need for any tv company to employ researchers or production assistants.
 
I think somehow we are confusing Q with a factual broadcasting company. There is precious little said on Q which could remotely be classed as research by anyone from tea boy to producer to senior presenter.

And the very fact that a viewer such as yourself would have accepted the BS as gospel just goes to show that unless you know your stuff you can be sure that Q will be very economical with the facts.

In beauty shows something which would never ever pass the likes of Donna who knows her stuff would mean nothing to me. Does that mean that I deserve to be told a load of tripe just because I don't know that they are incorrect.

If the presenters don't check at least some of the crib sheets what the heck do they do? Oh yes, stupid me, they order their personal purchases on air, much more important than facts.
 
I think somehow we are confusing Q with a factual broadcasting company. There is precious little said on Q which could remotely be classed as research by anyone from tea boy to producer to senior presenter.

'Research' generally is watching old transmissions to see where the spikes in orders came and then getting the presenter to repeat those phrases ad infinitum
 
I think somehow we are confusing Q with a factual broadcasting company. There is precious little said on Q which could remotely be classed as research by anyone from tea boy to producer to senior presenter.

And the very fact that a viewer such as yourself would have accepted the BS as gospel just goes to show that unless you know your stuff you can be sure that Q will be very economical with the facts.

In beauty shows something which would never ever pass the likes of Donna who knows her stuff would mean nothing to me. Does that mean that I deserve to be told a load of tripe just because I don't know that they are incorrect.

If the presenters don't check at least some of the crib sheets what the heck do they do? Oh yes, stupid me, they order their personal purchases on air, much more important than facts.

I don't believe I said anywhere that I accept what they say "as gospel", I said what they said would seem reasonable if you're not into jewellery. Frankly, unless someone is a total jewellery snob I can't see why it matters. Either you like a piece and want to wear it or you don't like it and don't want to wear it. I don't see how someone only thinks it's an attractive piece of jewellery if it's made in Italy, but doesn't think it's attractive if it's made in Arkansas, so to me where it's made just isn't important. Yes, they should be truthful, but to occasionally get an irrelevant fact wrong is hardly a capital offence. Which of us is able to say we've never made a mistake at work?

I believe in "buyer beware". I'm likely to be told a load of old tosh in any shop I go into, so if a particular thing is important to me I'd check it out. If I wasn't happy with the origin of a product when it arrived, I'd send it back, and if I had any doubts about any important facts I wouldn't buy the product before clarifying them.

What do presenters do? They stand in front of a camera and present the information they're told to present. Why would they check the information that someone else has been paid to gather and collate? How many of us do other people's jobs as well as our own? Presenters may attend a production meeting prior to the show, but their function is to tell us whatever their employer wants them to tell us. They're paid for their appearance and their ability to look into a small square of glass and talk to us naturally as if we're their best friend. The fact that so many presenters continually get criticised here proves that this is a skill and that the job isn't easy.
 
I think somehow we are confusing Q with a factual broadcasting company. There is precious little said on Q which could remotely be classed as research by anyone from tea boy to producer to senior presenter.

And the very fact that a viewer such as yourself would have accepted the BS as gospel just goes to show that unless you know your stuff you can be sure that Q will be very economical with the facts.

In beauty shows something which would never ever pass the likes of Donna who knows her stuff would mean nothing to me. Does that mean that I deserve to be told a load of tripe just because I don't know that they are incorrect.

If the presenters don't check at least some of the crib sheets what the heck do they do? Oh yes, stupid me, they order their personal purchases on air, much more important than facts.

I agree, the precious, pampered QVC presenters (or lazy as I like to call them) don't even know what size the clothing is they're wearing, least they could do is research that. I wonder if before and after their hour, do the assistants fan them, peel them and feed them a grape whilst they rest on the couch after all, that hours work must be exhausting.
 
Yes, there was yet another brief 'faffing around' episode on a Q fashion hour recently, (think it was Sunday), yet again about the shade of colour of one of the garments. Why the heck can't they have a bliddy label on each garment, so that the presenter can just read it (perhaps I need to sell them that solution and get a commission)? How frustrating is it for a potential buyer, when the garment's offered in 3 shades of blue, say, and the presenter can't match a colour name to each garment? Is it beyond the wit of someone to sort it out?
I agree, the precious, pampered QVC presenters (or lazy as I like to call them) don't even know what size the clothing is they're wearing, least they could do is research that. I wonder if before and after their hour, do the assistants fan them, peel them and feed them a grape whilst they rest on the couch after all, that hours work must be exhausting.
 
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Yes, there was yet another brief 'faffing around' episode on a Q fashion hour recently, (think it was Sunday), yet again about the shade of colour of one of the garments. Why the heck can't they have a bliddy label on the garment or something, so that the presenter can just read it (perhaps I need to sell them that solution and get a commission)? Instead of which they stand there, twittering on about which shade of blue it is. This happens with such regularity, is it beyond the wit of someone to sort it out?

The bloody ineptitude with colours is one of my biggest bugbears. It's bad enough when they give them these bloody stupid names instead of something meaningful, but what really gets my goat is when the presenter AND guest are stood there going, 'umm, is this the Butterfly Kisses purple or is it the Baby's Breath Blue...ummm, ummm, ok, it's actually red but we're calling it green'. They get paid enough to be prepared for the show, so treat the viewers with some respect and do the work. Jackie Kabler is one of the worse for this - add that to the bored look on her face and I just want to slap her sometimes.
 
Yes, there was yet another brief 'faffing around' episode on a Q fashion hour recently, (think it was Sunday), yet again about the shade of colour of one of the garments. Why the heck can't they have a bliddy label on the garment or something, so that the presenter can just read it (perhaps I need to sell them that solution and get a commission)? Instead of which they stand there, twittering on about which shade of blue it is. This happens with such regularity, is it beyond the wit of someone to sort it out?

Yeah, it must be complicated calling brown, brown or blue, blue. I only channel hop for a minute now and again, too pretentious when a company has to call brown, mud or blue, sky. (I made them up. :giggle:)
 
The bloody ineptitude with colours is one of my biggest bugbears. It's bad enough when they give them these bloody stupid names instead of something meaningful, but what really gets my goat is when the presenter AND guest are stood there going, 'umm, is this the Butterfly Kisses purple or is it the Baby's Breath Blue...ummm, ummm, ok, it's actually red but we're calling it green'. They get paid enough to be prepared for the show, so treat the viewers with some respect and do the work. Jackie Kabler is one of the worse for this - add that to the bored look on her face and I just want to slap her sometimes.

The confusion over colours frustrates me, it often happens with both kipling and lola rose, but to be fair I think the problem lies between the brand and qvc, not the presenter. If you're holding a red bag and the screen description says green it's no wonder there's confusion.
 
The confusion over colours frustrates me, it often happens with both kipling and lola rose, but to be fair I think the problem lies between the brand and qvc, not the presenter. If you're holding a red bag and the screen description says green it's no wonder there's confusion.

The pigs breakfast they make of the kipling colours and prints irritates the hell out of me. I don't understand why they feel the need to change the names Kipling themselves have given them, it's completely unnecessary. I sent Q Customer Services an email once listing all the Kipling mistakes on the website, where they'd got the same print or colour listed under two or three different names, large and small versions of the same bag with different bag names, and the same Fairfax showing twice at two different prices. I got the usual "passed to the appropriate department" response and nothing was put right on the website. For heaven's sake, if I can remember what a print is called, why on earth can't they?
 
I remember an item which was called something completely different to what it was. Every time Charlie presented it he had to go through the rigmarole of what you had to order to get what you wanted. He said every time it was not possible to change it. This has been going on for about TWO YEARS. For Pete's sake surely that is enough time to change graphics and Q cut. Notice they can change the price PDQ but not erroneous details.
 
The benefit of this mucking around with pattern/style or colour name is that it makes it more difficult to do comparisons with other retailers. Whether this is intentional or a fortunate side effect I wouldn't like to say.
 
The benefit of this mucking around with pattern/style or colour name is that it makes it more difficult to do comparisons with other retailers. Whether this is intentional or a fortunate side effect I wouldn't like to say.

i was just going to say that. its obvious!
 
The benefit of this mucking around with pattern/style or colour name is that it makes it more difficult to do comparisons with other retailers. Whether this is intentional or a fortunate side effect I wouldn't like to say.

Looking at all their other screw ups, I don't think they're competent enough to do it deliberately.
 
A while ago JK was on with Michelle Hope and JK mentioned her hair being blonde and MH said 'blonde?' JK said 'why what colour do you think it is' MH 'Well its grey roots with blonde bits on the end' Jackies face was a picture she did not look happy.
 

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