Batch Codes From QVC

[Moth]

QVC do sell out of date stuff sometimes. A while back, I bought a multipack of ABC Tea Tree wipes on a special price, as I use them often. When they arrived they stank something rotten and that's when I found out they were almost 6 months out of date. Fair enough, QVC were apologetic and replaced them immediately but it shows their stock management might not always be up to scratch.

I used to use a seller on Ebay who specialised in selling product that was getting close to its use by date or had damaged packaging and she used to sell mountains of stuff at discount prices. Customers don't and won't mind old product but I think it grates from QVC as they sell it and charge you for it as freshly made.

 

[donna255]

My batch code for the pot of Liz Earle Superskin moisturiser bought just after Xmas in Boots two years ago and opened last month is P6175A. So is from 2016, and shows that even the Liz Earle counters are not selling the newest products.

 

[Dream Girl]

My batch code for the pot of Liz Earle Superskin moisturiser bought just after Xmas in Boots two years ago and opened last month is P6175A. So is from 2016, and shows that even the Liz Earle counters are not selling the newest products.

So are we saying that it’s usual then to buy an item and expect already it’s between 6 - 12 months old before we get to use it. So instead of having three years from purchase to opening it we’ll be only two.

 

[llloyd]

I recently had some freebie Decleor products from Toni & Guy with other purchases. Checked dates and were 2018 was pleasantly surprised by this.

 

[donna255]

LUSH, now I just had a look at my pot of Sleepy and it has a sticker on it saying use by 18/9/19 and I did buy it in Sept last year.

Dream Girl, the companies just expect people to follow the 6/12/18/24 months written on the box when they buy as to how long you should use before throwing away. The only time they will be interested in the batch code is if there is a problem with the product.

Oh, something interesting for you all to think about. About 2 or 3 years ago a friend bought an Elemis TSV and didn't want one of the products, so she brought it to the local Elemis counter. She told them she was bought it as a gift but it did not agree with her and could she swap it for a different product? So they actually looked at the bar code and said, unfortunately, no as it was not bought from them it was from QVC! I was like really? So do QVC products have a different bar code? She ended up selling it on eBay.

 

[candycane]

I think different outlets do have different codes. I remember my friend taking perfume back to House of Fraser (unopened) and trying to swap it for another type but HoF said it had been bought in Boots so they must know. I suppose it's to stop people buying things on the cheap/on offer and then trying to get a full price refund from a shop, which is a bit naughty.

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[shopperholic]

I think different outlets do have different codes. I remember my friend taking perfume back to House of Fraser (unopened) and trying to swap it for another type but HoF said it had been bought in Boots so they must know. I suppose it's to stop people buying things on the cheap/on offer and then trying to get a full price refund from a shop, which is a bit naughty.

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Unless it’s their brand, they wouldn’t give a refund anyway without a receipt, but you’re right it could be bought from anywhere or years old, that’s why you’d need your receipt. :mysmilie_3:

 

[Dream Girl]

I can totally understand retailers not taking products back. I’m sure they would be unable to re sell same items, because they would be unaware of the how the item had been stored and if fingers had not been in the item, if not sealed.
I certainly wouldn’t want to purchase a product that had previously been in someone’s bathroom cabinet.

 

[candycane]

Unless it’s their brand, they wouldn’t give a refund anyway without a receipt, but you’re right it could be bought from anywhere or years old, that’s why you’d need your receipt. :mysmilie_3:

It had been a gift so she didn't have the receipt but she just assumed that the person who gave the gift would have bought it in HoF, Boots is a bit downmarket for her lol.

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[shopperholic]

It had been a gift so she didn't have the receipt but she just assumed that the person who gave the gift would have bought it in HoF, Boots is a bit downmarket for her lol.

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[China Girl]

They were recently selling 2 bottles of ginseng toner for the price of one I think it was. Both bottles had the old white spray button, they have had the navy blue buttons for ages now.
How old must those bottles have been?

Is Q a good place to offload old stock? sell it at a price that seems too good to be true, and it will fly out.

 

[Dream Girl]

They were recently selling 2 bottles of ginseng toner for the price of one I think it was. Both bottles had the old white spray button, they have had the navy blue buttons for ages now.
How old must those bottles have been?

Is Q a good place to offload old stock? sell it at a price that seems too good to be true, and it will fly out.

Oh my word All this about clean skincare/makeup being the big thing.
Yet old out of date stock is being flogged.
The big question is why would brands condone such practices?
Would they surely not want their products going out to customers with ingredients at their most potent capacity to have maximum effect.

 

[donna255]

Money Money! Oh and profit.

How many customers will be checking or even know to look at batch codes? Only if the product has turned will they even think to contact the company?

 

[Dream Girl]

Money Money! Oh and profit.

How many customers will be checking or even know to look at batch codes? Only if the product has turned will they even think to contact the company?

If I knew certain components had stopped being used years ago I would first ask the retailer how old the item was.

 

[donna255]

But again how many actually look at the ingredient list on a box? I do because I have mild rosacea and I always check in case there is something which my skin does not like. I do it standing in shops read the ingredient list which is always in very very small print at the bottom of the box. But I can guarantee 99.9% of people do not, they will just go with the speel given by the guest on QVC, AY or if in a shop the SA behind the counter. This is 2 or 3 years unopened and uses within 6 months end of.

Dream Girl, sorry but cosmetic companies are there to sell a fantasy of you will look younger more perfect if you use our products. They are not known for being moral guardians, there might be one or two who really do take things seriously like say LUSH with proper dates on products but that is it. The ads with have 20 somethings as the face of anti-ageing products, photoshop celebs(hell look at Julia Roberts for Lancome you can hardly tell it is her she is so photoshopped) until they are almost cartoon-like.

Rarely do companies get taken to account L'Oreal did for using lash inserts for mascara and few others. Sunday Riley a US brand got into big trouble the other year for saying their ingredients approved by FDA, no they were not. But customers took it as the truth and had real confidence in the brand. The FDA cracked down after two women, yes two women in the whole US complained and took Sunday Riley to court. So they paid big money to them and then the FDA fined them too. So how many hundreds of thousands used the brand worldwide yet never even thought to look into their claims? None.

This week I put a link up to a youtube Jen Luvs and L'Occitane. They paid her to promote the brand as she has thousands of followers in the US. But they did not like what she had to say, she actually investigated the ingredients and claims for the infamous immortal cream and found not true also mentioned their claims of not animal testing but they sell in China which she mentioned. They made her pull the video and she made another one explaining to her followers why she had to pull it. They only want positive airy-fairy, oh this product or brand is wonderful and will do this or that. Yet on QVC AY and Alexis ramble on about L'Occitane and the lavender fields and the wonderful skincare immortal range the everlasting flower. The flower might be everlasting and it is used as a note in perfume but it will do nothing for your skin.

 

[Dream Girl]

But again how many actually look at the ingredient list on a box? I do because I have mild rosacea and I always check in case there is something which my skin does not like. I do it standing in shops read the ingredient list which is always in very very small print at the bottom of the box. But I can guarantee 99.9% of people do not, they will just go with the speel given by the guest on QVC, AY or if in a shop the SA behind the counter. This is 2 or 3 years unopened and uses within 6 months end of.

Dream Girl, sorry but cosmetic companies are there to sell a fantasy of you will look younger more perfect if you use our products. They are not known for being moral guardians, there might be one or two who really do take things seriously like say LUSH with proper dates on products but that is it. The ads with have 20 somethings as the face of anti-ageing products, photoshop celebs(hell look at Julia Roberts for Lancome you can hardly tell it is her she is so photoshopped) until they are almost cartoon-like.

Rarely do companies get taken to account L'Oreal did for using lash inserts for mascara and few others. Sunday Riley a US brand got into big trouble the other year for saying their ingredients approved by FDA, no they were not. But customers took it as the truth and had real confidence in the brand. The FDA cracked down after two women, yes two women in the whole US complained and took Sunday Riley to court. So they paid big money to them and then the FDA fined them too. So how many hundreds of thousands used the brand worldwide yet never even thought to look into their claims? None.

This week I put a link up to a youtube Jen Luvs and L'Occitane. They paid her to promote the brand as she has thousands of followers in the US. But they did not like what she had to say, she actually investigated the ingredients and claims for the infamous immortal cream and found not true also mentioned their claims of not animal testing but they sell in China which she mentioned. They made her pull the video and she made another one explaining to her followers why she had to pull it. They only want positive airy-fairy, oh this product or brand is wonderful and will do this or that. Yet on QVC AY and Alexis ramble on about L'Occitane and the lavender fields and the wonderful skincare immortal range the everlasting flower. The flower might be everlasting and it is used as a note in perfume but it will do nothing for your skin.

Maybe this should be sent to AY for her response

 

[SisterBliss]

If companies really wanted to be open they would but a proper date cosmetics produced such as 5/5/19 and then the whatever months to use by. Decleor used to do this with their balms a proper full date then changed to the industry-wide batch code and months to use.

The preservatives are what are suppose to keep the product useable they never talk about the degradation of the potency. And if they did then again they would use a proper use by date with the date of manufacture. A moisturiser is to moisturise if it was supposed to really do something does this magic ingredient to stop wrinkles etc just stop working on a certain date? With sunscreen, they do say 2 years max as the ingredient which stops the UVB etc will no longer be effective. All cosmetics are made in factories and sit in vats settling so the actual date should start from the day it was mixed in the factor. Foundations etc all have the same dating method but a foundation does not stop being what it is unless it separates it will still work at a foundation.

It was the EU who made the companies put the current how long a product should be used in. Chanel fought to the bitter end not to do it but lost in court. If you go back there never was a set date/months to use by.

Telling that Channel fought so hard in that. Wonder what their line of 'defence' was?

Also, you say it was the Eu who ruled that companies put bbe's on, but why then, do they use these codes? Surely that makes all these companies in breach?

 

[donna255]

They were made to put the use in 6/12/18/24 months by the EU, Chanel did not want to put it on their cosmetics.

The batch codes have always been put on going way back to the 50s/60s or even earlier. The batch code is actually only for the information of the company if anything happens they can know if other reports come in that batch has a problem. If say a face cream grows mould or causes the customer to complain they can trace where and when it was made and what went wrong in manufacture.

Since the internet appeared people now can check batch codes usually for perfumes as some like to know about reformulations.