6 inches !!!

[Brissles]

Thought that would grab your attention !!!

See 6" on a tape measure. Not much is it, but that is all the fabric difference on the bust between a size 8 and a size 20 in the Ronni Nicole range. 1" increments is pretty useless, yet they still don't 'get it', the designer nor the buyers that it has to be at least 2" upsizing to make a difference.

How many who buy this range have to upsize to get a decent fit. I know in the early years I was seduced enough to send for an item, and would buy a size 20, but most of the time I was like a sausage trying to get back into its skin ! Watching tonight, things haven't changed, no wonder there is always loads in clearance.

 

[shopperholic]

Phew! Dress sizes yes I've noticed that QVC "fashion" doesn't like anyone who has chesticles over a 38c, yep the fashion don't like knockers......of both kinds :mysmilie_17:

 

[Brissles]

That's the problem ! as soon as you 'hit' 42" the sizing suddenly goes into XL 2XL 3XL XXXXXXXXL and 2 sheets joined together mode ! Its well known that women are larger than ever (for whatever reason), so designers need to get a grip on this. All this 'falls away from the bust' and 'feel the stretch of this fabric' business is too easy. Just cut the sodding fabric larger !!!!

M & S are no better; I'm a 42dd, not outrageous, but its like trying to find the Holy Grail of bras amongst their 34HH and 36JJ's !!! John Lewis have totally given up on anyone over a size 18 - only stocking one new range called Studio 8, but their bras stop at a size 40. Outrageous for a shop like that. I mentioned this 'discrepancy' to the curvy lady on the till, and she says they were constantly asked for larger ranges but nothing was ever done, so I wrote a letter to their Head Office. I received an email clearly written by a 14 year old, so I just avoid the shop now.

 

[loveallthingsitalian]

The few RN dresses I've tried I had to go from the DHD 14/16 up to a 18/20 and even then it wasn't drowning me. Someone somewhere is singing from the wrong hymn sheet.

 

[shopperholic]

That's the problem ! as soon as you 'hit' 42" the sizing suddenly goes into XL 2XL 3XL XXXXXXXXL and 2 sheets joined together mode ! Its well known that women are larger than ever (for whatever reason), so designers need to get a grip on this. All this 'falls away from the bust' and 'feel the stretch of this fabric' business is too easy. Just cut the sodding fabric larger !!!!

M & S are no better; I'm a 42dd, not outrageous, but its like trying to find the Holy Grail of bras amongst their 34HH and 36JJ's !!! John Lewis have totally given up on anyone over a size 18 - only stocking one new range called Studio 8, but their bras stop at a size 40. Outrageous for a shop like that. I mentioned this 'discrepancy' to the curvy lady on the till, and she says they were constantly asked for larger ranges but nothing was ever done, so I wrote a letter to their Head Office. I received an email clearly written by a 14 year old, so I just avoid the shop now.

Brissles that's sooooo funny! :mysmilie_15: and you're absolutely right.

 

[boffy]

cheap ranges cut clothes like that. sizes change as womens bodies have got bigger over the decades, a size 12 in the 1960's is a far cry from the present day

 

[historymystery]

"I received an email clearly written by a 14 year old...."

brissles, this is exactly what you get, isn't it? I've e-mailed IW to complain about misleading info being given on screen (or info not given, as the case may be), and several times about the smutty antics of their star presenter, (slapped wrists for any of you who didn't get the answer to who this is = the Pope!!) - all you get back is an illiterate e-mail that looks as though it was drafted in crayon first by a 3 year old (or by Pope P, whoever is more IT literate = obviously the 3 year old...).

That's the problem ! as soon as you 'hit' 42" the sizing suddenly goes into XL 2XL 3XL XXXXXXXXL and 2 sheets joined together mode ! Its well known that women are larger than ever (for whatever reason), so designers need to get a grip on this. All this 'falls away from the bust' and 'feel the stretch of this fabric' business is too easy. Just cut the sodding fabric larger !!!!

M & S are no better; I'm a 42dd, not outrageous, but its like trying to find the Holy Grail of bras amongst their 34HH and 36JJ's !!! John Lewis have totally given up on anyone over a size 18 - only stocking one new range called Studio 8, but their bras stop at a size 40. Outrageous for a shop like that. I mentioned this 'discrepancy' to the curvy lady on the till, and she says they were constantly asked for larger ranges but nothing was ever done, so I wrote a letter to their Head Office. I received an email clearly written by a 14 year old, so I just avoid the shop now.

 

[historymystery]

Whew, brissles! When I saw this thread heading, I thought for one minute there had been an 'exposure' on IW (well, it could only be 6", couldn't it?)....I'll just take my tranquilliser dart now, please...

Thought that would grab your attention !!!

See 6" on a tape measure. Not much is it, but that is all the fabric difference on the bust between a size 8 and a size 20 in the Ronni Nicole range. 1" increments is pretty useless, yet they still don't 'get it', the designer nor the buyers that it has to be at least 2" upsizing to make a difference.

How many who buy this range have to upsize to get a decent fit. I know in the early years I was seduced enough to send for an item, and would buy a size 20, but most of the time I was like a sausage trying to get back into its skin ! Watching tonight, things haven't changed, no wonder there is always loads in clearance.

 

[loveallthingsitalian]

I think you may be correct about more expensive brands. I once went into a Jaeger store and asked for a size 16 coat, the assistant was aghast and said a 12 would be plenty big. I thought that it was a sales pitch to flatter me but no, the 12 did fit perfectly.

On the other hand tops I've bought from them have shrunk to buggery.

 

[Turandot]

Ha ha ! made me laugh at 4am .Keep waking up at this time since the clocks changed.

Don't forget the selling point of Ronnie Nicole .....the "o so slim lining". It does the job instead of the extra fabric allegedly..

I didnt watch but I think they may have dropped the emphasis on this selling point probably because its rubbish. I had to cut out the "o so slim lining " because it was too clingy and kept riding up the legs .Horrible.

They also save fabric on the length and I hate the dresses where the main body of the dress ends way above the knee and the tatty see through net goes to the knee and this is presented as knee length. Not a good look .

Anyway my fashion buying days with Q are pretty much past but I still enjoy watching and having a moan !

 

[mediastar]

I remember that back in the day a size 14 was 36, 26, 38, and all measurements were two inches different for all sizes, ie a 12 was 34, 24. 36 and 16 was 38, 28, 40 and so on, there were no size zeros and anyone bigger than a size 20 or smaller than a 10 really struggled to find clothes to fit and usually had to resort to specialist mail order catalogues or had to make their own, or have them made (being generously padded and fortunate enough to have a grannie and an auntie who could knit and sew anything you threw at them, I had a wonderful wardrobe!)!

 

[Turandot]

Lenny ,who is never mentioned on Q these days ,used to be very proud of his clothes for larger sizes and I remember he always emphasised the scaling up of the sizes so that they were a good fit if you were larger. I know he had a loyal following on Q. I'm lucky enough to not have put on too much weight as I've aged but have friends who have and they stick to high street Evans and M&S etc.

Hardly anyone makes their own clothes these days but it was normal at one time .And they were very well finished.

 

[Miss Grumpy]

Mediastar made me very nostalgic for my university days when I knew exactly what size every garment was because it was a standard with the inch measurements she gave. And in my favourite chain, dresses were 39/11 and skirts 19/11.

Has anyone noticed the deliberate changing, not just of measurements, but of shapes? Because the young generation have boyish figures, straight up and down, manufacturers are now cutting garments to be the same measurement at the bust and the hip. There was a time when garment manufacturers used to cut pear and inverted pear... garments for the British market were two inches bigger round the hip, for the Continental market two inches bigger round the bust. Now we are all boys with big shoulders, no indentations and the waist and slim hips, as far as manufacturers think.

The curse of the androgene has hit Centigrade, one of the only two brands I ever bought from QVC. The coats used to fit perfectly my two poached eggs up top, vast spreading bottom, with a Princess cut that flared out magnificently from a shaped-in waist. The last couple of coats were cut like the cardboard tubes inside paper kitchen rolls.

I still buy Kim because her pull it, bend it, stretch it, fabric still fits. But of course, from auction websites as I cannot afford her prices on Q any more.

And now this is my last post until after Christmas. No matter what show I flick over to for a moment, it's to see a set decorated with candles and tinsel. We are still in October, for goodness sake. I shall not watch until New Year, well, a few days later when the New Year New You stops trying to flog us useless and dangerous exercise machines.

So Merry Christmas to all, nearly two months early in the spirit of QVC. I hope all of you who have had health problems, or like Shopperholic, had family members with health problems, have a happy and healthy Christmas.

 

[ERICS MUM]

"I received an email clearly written by a 14 year old...."

brissles, this is exactly what you get, isn't it? I've e-mailed IW to complain about misleading info being given on screen (or info not given, as the case may be), and several times about the smutty antics of their star presenter, (slapped wrists for any of you who didn't get the answer to who this is = the Pope!!) - all you get back is an illiterate e-mail that looks as though it was drafted in crayon first by a 3 year old (or by Pope P, whoever is more IT literate = obviously the 3 year old...).

It's not just La Q. I've had similar responses to e mails I've sent to the BBC about their radio presenters and to Marks & Spencer about their food dept in our local branch. All valid points and politely made and to which I expected "proper" replies not some patronising "Janet & John" dismissive missive.

 

[Kathy]

Ha ha ! made me laugh at 4am .Keep waking up at this time since the clocks changed.

Don't forget the selling point of Ronnie Nicole .....the "o so slim lining". It does the job instead of the extra fabric allegedly..

I didnt watch but I think they may have dropped the emphasis on this selling point probably because its rubbish. I had to cut out the "o so slim lining " because it was too clingy and kept riding up the legs .Horrible.

They also save fabric on the length and I hate the dresses where the main body of the dress ends way above the knee and the tatty see through net goes to the knee and this is presented as knee length. Not a good look .

Anyway my fashion buying days with Q are pretty much past but I still enjoy watching and having a moan !

Imo Ronnie N isn't the only fashion designers saving on fabric, I lol at some of the clothes offered on qvc , the models are reluctant to turn around as they know their rear ends are straining to escape, it isn't just the cheaper end...I thought QVC were supposed to be sorting out their sizing... I just refuse to be XL / 2XL :mysmilie_17:

 

[thatu]

You and me both, lati. These brands are obviously penny-pinching at the expense of the customer, therefore cheap and nasty. Also extremely stupid. After all, when the average woman is a size 16 or 38 bust, wouldn't you think that this size would be in the middle of their range? But no. They'd obviously rather make fatter women look like stuffed sausages instead of giving them clothes that fit and flatter and think we're going to be stupid enough to buy these skin-tight, ill-fitting clothes because the fat presenter says she's stuffed herself into a size small - and she has the rolls to prove it.

Brissles, I did a double take at your thread title!

 

[boffy]

brissles i did not do a double take on your post title as 6 inches is vastly inadequate :cheeky::cheeky:

 

[Brissles]

Great to read all your comments - just a shame that we're not the "public" that all these 'designers' purport to listen to !!!

Like most on here, I've given up on Q fashion and most of the High Street, and admit that most of Q's 'stuff' goes into the charity bag after a while, whereas the clothes I bought on-line from the likes of Grey & Osborne (sale only), Sahara, and a few bits from M & S from years ago, I still keep year in year out.

I get despondent with the High Street too, Evans USED to get it right when they rebranded from Evans Outsize 30 odd years ago, then came under the Philip Green umbrella and became shapeless fashion for oversize teenagers. YOURS also had some decent stuff when it first opened, but again in their shops its just a sea of black and plum prints.

We have more fashion choices now than ever before, so why do we still have trouble finding anything half decent that doesn't cost a weekly wage packet ? (a sign of the times - I live a few miles from Stevenage where the two storey M & S store in the huge but declining town centre has closed !!!)

 

[shopperholic]

I'm no Gok Wan but I'm pretty sure QVC should be done under the Trades Description Act for even insinuating any of their polyester tops or trousers resemble fashion, as for the sizes well in this case yes, if you shop with QVC (I don't) size does matter.

 

[Peppermint Patti]

Mediastar made me very nostalgic for my university days when I knew exactly what size every garment was because it was a standard with the inch measurements she gave. And in my favourite chain, dresses were 39/11 and skirts 19/11.

Has anyone noticed the deliberate changing, not just of measurements, but of shapes? Because the young generation have boyish figures, straight up and down, manufacturers are now cutting garments to be the same measurement at the bust and the hip. There was a time when garment manufacturers used to cut pear and inverted pear... garments for the British market were two inches bigger round the hip, for the Continental market two inches bigger round the bust. Now we are all boys with big shoulders, no indentations and the waist and slim hips, as far as manufacturers think.

The curse of the androgene has hit Centigrade, one of the only two brands I ever bought from QVC. The coats used to fit perfectly my two poached eggs up top, vast spreading bottom, with a Princess cut that flared out magnificently from a shaped-in waist. The last couple of coats were cut like the cardboard tubes inside paper kitchen rolls.

I still buy Kim because her pull it, bend it, stretch it, fabric still fits. But of course, from auction websites as I cannot afford her prices on Q any more.

And now this is my last post until after Christmas. No matter what show I flick over to for a moment, it's to see a set decorated with candles and tinsel. We are still in October, for goodness sake. I shall not watch until New Year, well, a few days later when the New Year New You stops trying to flog us useless and dangerous exercise machines.

So Merry Christmas to all, nearly two months early in the spirit of QVC. I hope all of you who have had health problems, or like Shopperholic, had family members with health problems, have a happy and healthy Christmas.

Hi Miss G re sizing, I remember eons ago when I was in my teens you got odd sizes 11,13 etc for teens as you were shaped differently to older women. M&S and Wallis were always guaranteed to be spot on and usually could fit in a size smaller. I think it all went pear shaped ,pardon the pun,when they stopped making clothes in the UK. Quality also deteriorated then. I knew someone who worked for M&S and if one jumper in a lot was substandard the lot was sent back. There was never threads dangling or buttons badly sewn on. Anyway Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you.xx