The plot thickens🤔

[maymorganlondon]

Too many of those big names campaigning for Brexit had an escape lined up for if they succeeded (which they clearly never expected to happen).
It's a shame that this wasn't drawn to the attention of the public in the run-up to the referendum.... that if things turned to sh*t, they could continue to have the privilege of EU citizenship at the same time as removing it from those without routes to keeping it.
That being said, we are where we are, and we need to see less political posturing from the lawmakers and some decisive planning and actions for both short-term and longer-term relief. Instead we are witnessing the house of cards collapsing as staff in under-resourced essential services crack under the strain of both the C.O.L. crisis and severe staff shortages.
QVC may now have more difficulty with making profits on goods that now have import duty on them... and instead we have a furore over (anti-) social media. In Q as in the wider world people are being distracted and side-tracked.

 

[TimeForADrySherry]

An absolute disaster for the UK, and a horrible example of how the manipulators play to the lowest common denominator by playing the nationalist card. As if it could ever have been anything but the hugest mistake for the very idiots who voted for it. Murdoch's lying minions backed up the lies spouted by the odious Farage and Johnson, and all the other swivel-eyed loons who have caused this catastrophe. The last election was run by the Tories and their chums in the media as a one-issue manifesto. Hence, so many of the Tories who got in are at the extreme right of the party; the equivalent of Trump's republicans, and as unsurprisingly incompetent at actually governing a country. Bunch of bloody Ukip-ers with the intelligence of grout.
Of all the eejits, dangerous eejits, to have been in power during a devastating pandemic. Criminal, literally criminal.

 

[Bea Frugal]

Don’t mince your words tfads. I happen to agree but I’ve come to realise how rarely people really change their minds. They dig in and that’s that. It’s incredibly annoying that it’s taboo in parliament to link the B word to our dismal economic prospects. Bury your head in the sand and blame whatever you can but not brexit. They really take us for fools. The government will be hammered at the election but that’s what’s needed to clear out the Johnson era dross. We talk ourselves up but we’re a bit of a joke on the world stage, grovelling for a pat on the head from Biden. Self inflicted and sad.

 

[maymorganlondon]

Don’t mince your words tfads. I happen to agree but I’ve come to realise how rarely people really change their minds. They dig in and that’s that. It’s incredibly annoying that it’s taboo in parliament to link the B word to our dismal economic prospects. Bury your head in the sand and blame whatever you can but not brexit. They really take us for fools. The government will be hammered at the election but that’s what’s needed to clear out the Johnson era dross. We talk ourselves up but we’re a bit of a joke on the world stage, grovelling for a pat on the head from Biden. Self inflicted and sad.

You are so right. There might have been a chance of people having some humility… but Brexit became so polarised and emotive that everyone retreated further into their trenches and echo chambers. Right or wrong, we left the EU. Now every effort should be made at all levels of society, starting with the government, to make the best we can of the situation we are in. It’s in all our best interests. But what we should have learnt from our stormy time in the EU and our combative exit is that it pays to have friends and allies. Instead we did too much alienating other countries with a lot of anti-EU rhetoric and banging the drum about immigration, asylum seekers, breaching international treaties etc…

An absolute disaster for the UK, and a horrible example of how the manipulators play to the lowest common denominator by playing the nationalist card. As if it could ever have been anything but the hugest mistake for the very idiots who voted for it. Murdoch's lying minions backed up the lies spouted by the odious Farage and Johnson, and all the other swivel-eyed loons who have caused this catastrophe. The last election was run by the Tories and their chums in the media as a one-issue manifesto. Hence, so many of the Tories who got in are at the extreme right of the party; the equivalent of Trump's republicans, and as unsurprisingly incompetent at actually governing a country. Bunch of bloody Ukip-ers with the intelligence of grout.
Of all the eejits, dangerous eejits, to have been in power during a devastating pandemic. Criminal, literally criminal.

A good point, as nobody scrutinised anything except Brexit getting done. Yet some of the worst were already in Parliament before the 2020 Election.

So far we have had Theresa May fighting on four fronts to get a deal (EU, Remain-voting MPs, hardline Brexiteers on the Tory backbenches, and the DUP (after her calamitous “Maybot” election)); Trump-lite talking out of both sides of his face (BJ); catastrophe Truss and the reckless gamble on the economy… and now the relatively tame Rishi Sunak is faced with many of the same problems as Theresa May, now with added Boris-it’s guerilla warfare and a lack of public mandate for his leadership. It’s exhausting. Government departments, I suspect, have little to no leadership or direction from the Secretaries and Ministers. What hope do businesses that hope to trade with other countries have? Then there is the general public in all shapes and forms trying to get by without too much of a disaster. It is shameful… but they don’t have a clue. And I’m not clear what a change in government will deliver, as I suspect that Sir Kier Starmer will have similar dissident elements to deal with once Labour are elected.

 

[boffy]

Did Brexit make any difference to UK foreign and other policies though. Not a thing imo. Anather scam to cause division.

 

[SisterBliss]

Don't forget the obnoxious grinning Farage got himself a German passport. Two faced git.

Eh? So he's of German heritage then? Mmmmmm.........

 

[Sazza]

Eh? So he's of German heritage then? Mmmmmm.........

His wife is German

 

[Patsy]

Eh? So he's of German heritage then? Mmmmmm.........

No his wife is.