Rip off Radiators are back.

[cheeky chappie]

OMG, watching the snooker on Eurosport, break, hop on to IW, now it's what's her name (the Irish girl) selling them and she started off with exactly the same tripe ...

'I got home last night and it was chilly so I turned the heating on. I was only in the kitchen and lounge but was heating the whole house' etc etc

This is obviously one of the lines they've been told to repeatedly churn out and, as per my post above, it simply doesn't have to be true if your radiators have their own thermostats!!!

Ah well, back to the snooker to calm down

 

[Petespants]

how do they get away with it reg varney lookalike on selling the ceramic heaters showing a graph with wind chill facts totally misleading also suggesting snow somewhere did not say where though could be outer hebrides or outer mongolia for all i believed him disgraceful channel

Why are they showing a graph with wind chill facts?I should think you would need to be out in the wind to use this graph.Unless your home has no roof,doors,or windows I doubt very much it would experience 'windchill'rather the odd draught.How ridiculous. Do they assume we are all total morons?

 

[adam82uk]

who is buying from iw ? I'd rather buy radiators from argos than these lot. That's if argos sell them.

 

[historymystery]

These radiators are overpriced, and anyone thinking of buying from IW should not do so without doing a check on the internet first (not just looking at the IW "price comparison chart", which is selective, IMO). The Old Chestnut about having to have your radiators on in every room, regardless of the fact that we know you can regulate them, has been trotted out on every occasion. They really do not know what to say next to get a sale.

 

[Keep Going]

3 Mins into the hour and the bald bloke has trotted out the line "why heat every room in the house when you dont have to?" As already been stated this is a load of balls and desperate as ever..........by the way £400 for the 2000w radiator, bargain!!!!! :sad:

Go for the 2000w folks please please please pretty please, FOLKS PLEASE DO NOT BUY THESE, now he is saying buy another for upstairs..........thats us upto £800, sign me up as the bald bloke has just said this is an unbelievable deal folks it must be if the bald bloke says it it :muscle:

 

[mr tom]

they couldn't get the bloke from Belgium today it seems, so we are stuck with Peter Vollebrecht (sic)

for anyone who has heard of ''the most interesting man in the world'' and seen the adverts, well I believe this Peter is the complete opposite.

I wonder what they would do if they lost the temperature gun?

 

[postmanpat68]

How can they have a sell-out of the radiators at the weekend and miraculously get more stock today and yesterday????
At least with QVC they have a waitlist.
Me thinks they are bull-crapping on stock updates and sell-outs (shocker i know):mysmilie_19:

 

[NEXUS]

I have found a way to only heat the room that I'm in, I just turned the other radiators off, job done ! :mysmilie_48:

 

[cheeky chappie]

Just to rant about this a bit more, watched a few mins the other night and they rolled out the usual clip of showing how the heaters continue to radiate heat when no power going to them, however, unless I'm missing it, there's no indication as to how long the time lapsed clip is over. The 'expert' just keeps it intentionally vague along the lines of 'this shows it still giving off hear over a period of time.' Impressive if the clip is shot over 2 hours ... less so if it's over 5 mins!

And just to throw something else into the mix, the retention of heat in the demo panels will be greater cause they're in a warm studio under powerful lights. Put those demo panels in a chilly room and see if they retain heat for as long. Oh no, how silly of me, that would be too realistic ...

 

[dtb123]

I bought a 2000w heater from ebay this morning for £14.96 free postage. The last one went belly up after last winter but that had lasted 4 winters. I don't want the heating on all around the house when in on my own so these little heaters are ideal. Can't be faffed going round the house turned rads of then back on in the evening.

£400 for a radiator is just plain silly, they only people buying them must have more money than sense.

 

[Dave]

I have found a way to only heat the room that I'm in, I just turned the other radiators off, job done ! :mysmilie_48:

Could you explain that in simple language please? :mysmilie_19:

 

[Petespants]

OMG, watching the snooker on Eurosport, break, hop on to IW, now it's what's her name (the Irish girl) selling them and she started off with exactly the same tripe ...

'I got home last night and it was chilly so I turned the heating on. I was only in the kitchen and lounge but was heating the whole house' etc etc

This is obviously one of the lines they've been told to repeatedly churn out and, as per my post above, it simply doesn't have to be true if your radiators have their own thermostats!!!

Ah well, back to the snooker to calm down

I'm not being awful here but surely people must realise they can either a)turn off individual radiators in rooms where they are not required or b)thermostatically control each radiator with appropriate fitting. As most people with radiators will have experienced occasions when a room has been too hot whilst others need heating,surely they have explored how to turn certain radiators down or off.How does the channel think the non scientific,clearly inaccurate spiel is how they should sell these?Do people buy instead of using what they have more efficiently?Having an extra heater where there is none at all maybe.But not at this price thanks . I'm off to turn my kitchen radiator off....it's flipping red hot.

 

[Muttley]

My mum clicked over this afternoon and Dirty Pete was flogging the radiators. They can't be any good because he doesn't own one. He did the "ooh I wish I had one last night .. blah blah ... I had a blanket and hot water bottle round me shivering etc etc. Bearing in mind we have seen these heaters on Selly Telly (where he worked) for many years, and they are incredibly cheap and efficient to run, why doesn't he have one? (Answers on a postcard please...)

 

[Greg]

A case of do what I say not say what I do...

Selly telly shysters.

 

[Muttley]

A case of do what I say not say what I do...

Selly telly shysters.

It just makes me shout at the telly "well if they were any good why haven't you got one" but I am a nasty, suspicious middle aged woman who trusts few selly telly presenters. They never seem to think that others might think that!

 

[Greg]

I can't watch Ideal World anymore. One has to suspend rational thought and logic to inhabit the Ideal World of make believe.

It is only transcended by the quasi-religious cult-like environment that is QVC. Seems that its adhrrents are willing to part £££ for ovepriced tat.

Beyond reality selly telly...

 

[cheeky chappie]

I'm genuinely sorry to keep laboring the point on this, however hopped on last night, they were selling these radiators and ... yet again ... they were bleating on about thermostatic control and the timer as if it's something NEW and AMAZING! The 'expert' (maybe Janice but can't recall for sure) and the presenter, possibly Howard, were coming out with stuff like 'they're great because you can, for example, set them to come on 15 mins before you get home so your home is nice and toasty' ... 'they're great because if you have for example an elderly relative or children, you can have one of these in their bedroom and set it to come on for a while at night and then perhaps again in the morning.'

Now, whilst these are facts, it's the FACT they promote this feature as being AMAZING that really gets my hackles up!!! I remember when I was in my early teens (approx. 30 years ago) we got small electric heaters installed in our bedrooms. Believe it or not those heaters had timers ... no ... I'm not making it up, they did, honest!!! Okay they weren't digital, however I'm pretty sure I could still set the heater to come on and off x times in a 24 hour period.

THERMOSTATS AND TIMERS ARE NOT NEW TECHNOLOGY ... STOP THE SALES PITCH TRYING TO PRETEND YOU'RE GIVING US SOMETHING NEW ... YOU'RE NOT!!!

'Yes Mr & Mrs Smith, but I've kept the best until last. It's a good job you're sitting down. You know the car you're interested in buying? The brand new 2016 model? Well, are you ready for this ... it has electric windows and power steering!!! No, I'm not joking!!! Ready to sign ...'

And breathe ......

 

[Wirral70]

Up until relatively recently there were still a few genuinely good bargains scattered amongst the mire of mundane, mispriced majorative. Now what I see is : -

£156 for a generic Android Phone
£356 for a small Heater
£860 for Ring with a man made stone and an unspecified amount of Gold
£1009 for a 'Sthurling' watch, a brand really only ever seen elsewhere when it was being shilled by the ex Bid Goons on Bid
£1050 for a Pleather Chair (that's a Chair. One single, Pleather Chair)
£1365 for a Pleather 3 Seat Sofa
£2115 for a Pleather 2 and 3 Seat Sofa Seat

Brighthouse, Perfect Homes and JD Williams look like good value retailers compared to this, it's quite unbelievable isn't it?

However, you can of course spread the cost with Flexipay. According to Sally Jacks they take on absolutely anybody and at these staggering prices they can probably afford to :mysmilie_13:

 

[Price Plunge]

However, you can of course spread the cost with Flexipay. According to Sally Jacks they take on absolutely anybody and at these staggering prices they can probably afford to :mysmilie_13:

Brighthouse etc. do price their goods with the full expectation that most of their customers will run into financial difficulties at some point therefore their pricing takes this into account. Since Ideal World's Flexi-pay isn't legally 'credit' despite what De Knees says (assuming they can't use bailiffs/court judgements to retrieve lost revenue?), the cost of risk has to be built into the purchase price, but the 'immoral' parts relate to high pressure selling and the deceptions that take place to achieve their sales.

Create and Craft is a special case because specialist craft shops do charge lots of money for relatively mundane products, eg. nearly £1 for a single pen, but specialist shops offer advice and other services that make it well worth the premium.

QVC are still trading on their past reputation even though some of their products are now similar to the stuff Bid used to sell even if they are more smartly-packaged (I'm thinking Ecoegg here), but given time they will either have to follow the IW/Bid route or risk going online only.

 

[cheeky chappie]

Up until relatively recently there were still a few genuinely good bargains scattered amongst the mire of mundane, mispriced majorative. Now what I see is : -

£156 for a generic Android Phone
£356 for a small Heater
£860 for Ring with a man made stone and an unspecified amount of Gold
£1009 for a 'Sthurling' watch, a brand really only ever seen elsewhere when it was being shilled by the ex Bid Goons on Bid
£1050 for a Pleather Chair (that's a Chair. One single, Pleather Chair)
£1365 for a Pleather 3 Seat Sofa
£2115 for a Pleather 2 and 3 Seat Sofa Seat

Brighthouse, Perfect Homes and JD Williams look like good value retailers compared to this, it's quite unbelievable isn't it?

However, you can of course spread the cost with Flexipay. According to Sally Jacks they take on absolutely anybody and at these staggering prices they can probably afford to :mysmilie_13:

I think this is part of what grates with me. I know they have to do it (it's why they're there i.e. to sell) but it's the way they keep on reaffirming things like 'bonded leather' to convince the potential buyer this is obviously something better than 'normal' leather. Surely this is why these channels will be doomed as the years roll by and more buyers become, by default, 'quick check on the internet' savvy to check statements brands etc before buying.

They talk about those blo0dy watches as if they're already practically heirlooms, 'get this insured' ... 'collectors are already coming in on this' ... if anyone is buying those timepieces thinking they are going to appreciate in value then I genuinely feel sorry for them.