Random musings and general banter.

[Professor Branestawm]

Just catching up on Dopey and Dopier watch show, although could only watch so much, so much nonsense.

Trevor gets a mention

Peter obviously doesn't know the difference between a tank case and Tonneau case.

They do a price comparison with their biggest competitor, Amazon, we're a £100 cheaper than Amazon.

It's actually an Amazon marketplace seller, Peers Hardy, who are the Gresham owner.

Gresham are British watchmakers with a profound heritage.

They're not watchmakers and they've no f*** all heritage.

A gresham customised automatic movement with a customised rotor styled on a F1 steering wheel.

Load of bollocks, it's a bog standard Chinese M2771B movement, f*** all to do with F1.

Peter waffling on a load of bollocks about a genius aluminium chassis case, framed alloyed chassis Peter says he's only seen this in what they call an incabloc protection, to protect movement when dropped etc..

The incabloc protection has sod all to do with the case.

As we know, Peter, Mike, and the infants in the gallery all read this forum.
Just so you can get it right next time, Pedro, if you actually want to - below is a photo of an incabloc shock protection. It’s one of three very commonly used - Incabloc, Etachoc or Novodiac (generally used by Swatch, on lower-grade mechanisms, and Kif (generally used by Rolex, AP, JLC, and has two separate shock protection elements). There are others, rarer, but these three are the ones I’d see most often in the workshop.

Kif is definitely superior. As regards incabloc or etachoc, there’s not really a lot to choose between them. Some prefer incabloc, but each is easy to work on and neither, IMO outperforms the other by any significant margin. Even incabloc only has five components to it in total.
If you’re not sure what’s in any given watch, just look at the shape of the spring. Incabloc looks like the below photo. They describe it as a ‘lyre’ shape (perhaps IW heard the word and thought ‘liar’, naturally being attracted to it!!
Etachoc resembles the ETA logo shape. From my own perspective,
Incabloc makes servicing easier in one respect because it stays attached on a hinge, but there’s an important drawback - if that hinge or spring gets damaged - and they do - it is more time consuming and expensive to repair than Etachoc. If an Etachoc spring is damaged it is a low cost replacement item.

Also, from a mechanical engineering perspective, Incabloc has 2 longer points of contact whereas Etachoc/Novodiac has 3 shorter points of contact. In practice, there are pros and cons to each, and my overall opinion is that either is as good as the other.

But none of them, Pedro, is a watch case!!

 

[Battiola73]

When Pedro knew they were getting Medify in he starts spouting guff. Boll*cks, he had no clue who they were till they brought them to air

Didn’t have of a clue when he did demonstrate either

 

[cheeky chappie]

Can you all please BACK OFF making the disparaging remarks about Peter S. He has, and always will be, the cornerstone of integrity and honesty in the truthful world that is selly telly.

Don't believe me? Watch this ...

 

[galesgal57]

Sounds like Foghorn is a no show again tomorrow. She has only worked two shifts in the last month, the cash will be running out soon.

 

[galesgal57]

Can you all please BACK OFF making the disparaging remarks about Peter S. He has, and always will be, the cornerstone of integrity and honesty in the truthful world that is selly telly.

Don't believe me? Watch this ...

I thought the worry angels were the dregs, but they are something else.

 

[galesgal57]

Drones, canes, crapovac, the stepper again. Thank God for Antiques Roadshow and Call the Midwife.

 

[Ant7t]

Drones, canes, crapovac, the stepper again. Thank God for Antiques Roadshow and Call the Midwife.

Some of those products have been on so many times, they probably could appear on the antiques roadshow.

 

[HughTwo]

Dirty Pedro taking full responsibility for an electric hot water bottle being £14.99 when it really should have been £24.99.
He's always thinking of the viewers when taking prices down

Strange that Wing Commander Knowles never takes down his pants or his duvet on air.

 

[Niwa]

Dirty Pedro taking full responsibility for an electric hot water bottle being £14.99 when it really should have been £24.99.
He's always thinking of the viewers when taking prices down

Strange that Wing Commander Knowles never takes down his pants or his duvet on air.

I don't think they are allowed to take down their pants while on air.
That would be an entirely different genre of broadcasting altogether!

 

[Muttley]

I thought the worry angels were the dregs, but they are something else.

I tell my worries to a big slab of Cadbury Dairy Milk. The chocolate then says "eat me" so I do and then I feel better

 

[Muttley]

I don't think they are allowed to take down their pants while on air.
That would be an entirely different genre of broadcasting altogether!

Yes, we're going down the Channel 5 route there

 

[Ant7t]

Ok. I've seen PS griping about his legs: loves his walking sticks, griping about his health in general, as well as his age, and his back problems, yet he manages to crawl on the floor vacuuming with the wonderful lead-ed vacuum.

 

[Jason]

Peter's had "another one of those days" today. How does he get himself in to such bother every time he comes to the studios? He also called his show tonight "Peter's House Party" at the start of 6pm. Reference to my previous post about his jumper?

 

[Kit10]

Well, that very same Vaccum is on TJC for £39.99 and 15% of with code SALE.

 

[Ant7t]

Well, that very same Vaccum is on TJC for £39.99 and 15% of with code SALE.

Same stock no doubt.

 

[Hammy60]

As we know, Peter, Mike, and the infants in the gallery all read this forum.
Just so you can get it right next time, Pedro, if you actually want to - below is a photo of an incabloc shock protection. It’s one of three very commonly used - Incabloc, Etachoc or Novodiac (generally used by Swatch, on lower-grade mechanisms, and Kif (generally used by Rolex, AP, JLC, and has two separate shock protection elements). There are others, rarer, but these three are the ones I’d see most often in the workshop.

Kif is definitely superior. As regards incabloc or etachoc, there’s not really a lot to choose between them. Some prefer incabloc, but each is easy to work on and neither, IMO outperforms the other by any significant margin. Even incabloc only has five components to it in total.
If you’re not sure what’s in any given watch, just look at the shape of the spring. Incabloc looks like the below photo. They describe it as a ‘lyre’ shape (perhaps IW heard the word and thought ‘liar’, naturally being attracted to it!!
Etachoc resembles the ETA logo shape. From my own perspective,
Incabloc makes servicing easier in one respect because it stays attached on a hinge, but there’s an important drawback - if that hinge or spring gets damaged - and they do - it is more time consuming and expensive to repair than Etachoc. If an Etachoc spring is damaged it is a low cost replacement item.

Also, from a mechanical engineering perspective, Incabloc has 2 longer points of contact whereas Etachoc/Novodiac has 3 shorter points of contact. In practice, there are pros and cons to each, and my overall opinion is that either is as good as the other.

But none of them, Pedro, is a watch case!!

The shock protection (and rotor) is handy/helpful, if the watch is a Skeleton, open heart or has a display back, in a sort of quick first step for identifying movement or spotting if IW are spouting ******** about a watch movement or not.
When looking at watches on IW if you get a glimpse of the balance wheel and the shock protection, you can start narrowing down the make of the movement then the movement itself. Miyota's have the Parashock, Seiko's have their Diashock, and usually decent Swiss movements will have Incabloc (but as you've pointed out not always, could have Etachoc/Novodiac).

The anti shock was also a good way to tell if Bordell was selling a CCCP watch with 100% genuine NOS Slava or a NOS Slava with Chinese parts, usually the movements with Chinese parts added had a Chinese Rotor and Chinese balance wheel assembly & anti shock system, how you attach a slava rotor is different to a Chinese (and almost every other mainstream rotor) & the anti shock is also different and easy to spot in comparison to a Chinese, Miyota, Seiko or Incabloc.
One other quick way to tell if Bordell was spouting crap, without even seeing the movement, was that Slava S2427 (bog standard Slava movement used in CCCP watches) didn't change date through the crown, it had a date changing lever system activated by a flush pusher at the 2 o clock position, no flush pusher on case not a Slava movement.

 

[Ant7t]

This genuinely wasn't me. But it just goes to show what a farce the Ideal World text messaging system is. Not one of them is legitimate.

Perhaps there is a Rod in Hull who has a thing for emus

 

[Samki]

Perfidious Pete and his fairy stories again - silly old sod

 

[Hammy60]

Oh canes, wonder if I'll get mention and how i use it on my coastal walks.

 

[Kit10]

Same stock no doubt.

Same product number too. I presume everything for both companies is dispatched from the same warehouse.