Would agree with the first bolded part, a lot of snobbery, bias and ignorance. back a few years ago (when a lot of the info in these posts originated), any mention China with a watch (ownership, watch parts, made in China etc) and the usual response on forums was crap, ****, don't touch with a barge pole, but now it's the reverse and Swiss Made is a rip off, crap, **** etc and San Martin, Addiesdive et al with their NH35s are the bees knees, greatest things since sliced bread, most of this has been led by the hundreds of reviewers on youtube etc, with their free samples from the brands to give unbiased reviews. On Dreyfuss have a few, all have SW200-1 in them, also have a few Rotary watches with a variety of movements, ETA2824, ETA2836-2, SW200-1 all made when they were part of the Chinese Haidian group which name change to the City Champ group.
Yeah i have the Blue Visodate, i got mine 5 years ago, when it was half the price it is now.
I've read about Mathey-Tissot, going under in the quartz crisis and Chinese investors to the rescue before, strangely, when questioned for a source to this info the folks posting it said they had read from a poster on another forum. The only info i ever found was the American Mathey Tissot distributor took over the company as it struggled during the crisis, before Alberto Frigerio (along with SWP) bought it in 2014 (he had been CEO since 94). During the quartz crisis, like Roamer, they stopped making mechanical movements and concentrated on quartz and their main market was the Far East (probably reason for some of the Chinese design watches, it's still one of their bigger markets and why they and Roamer were only remembered for their vintage watches as they were less well know here once things took off again). Of course they don't have their own watch production anymore and as best i can find out, they are either made by a 3rd party watchmaker in Chassio (Tan SA) or in the same facilities as Roamer & Swiss Military by Hanowa in Medrissio (Watchmakers, which is a brand owned by FM Swiss Logistics SA, they also seem to control Roamers & Swiss Military as well now).
I've a few Mathey-Tissot from ebay, Jomashop etc, automatic movements used in them are ETA 2824, Valjoux 7750 and Sellita SW200-1, quartz movements used are Ronda 1009 and ETA G10. 212 AN PWD not quite the movements you expect from a "******* brand". Okay some of their designs are not everybody's taste, but they are far from producing crap watches.
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Also have the Junghans 'Meister Telemeter' with their J880.3 caliber which is in reality isthe ETA 2892/ Dubois Depraz 2030 module.
