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I don’t think I want ‘limited edition’ printed on my Swiss Made watch face. I don’t mind it on the sleeve of my Jam, Strange Town single in yellow vinyl, or my Panini Football Album, or my Findus Crispy Pancakes Fillet Steak Special carton. But NOT on a so called luxury watch face. It just looks cheap and tacky and generally nasty.
 
PS: You are saving many, many, many, many hundreds of many pounds here.. Insure..Insure..Insure…WE ARE TALKING PRECISION, ACCURACY..SHEER UNADULTERATED CLASS. What a magnificent Timex we have here…Look Now at this Green Ring..Even my GP was shocked when I showed him..
 
Over £200 of bracelet included from Traser for the P67 T100 watch. :ROFLMAO:

£200, really, then why is your son's web site selling the bracelets for £89 Kev?


Wish he would stop the ******** about T100 Tubes and 4 times strong than standard T25 tubes, no such things exists. There are NO T25 or T100 tubes, T25 and T100 refers to how much total Tritium is in the watch.
 
Kev's at it again, on the N1 Expedition - "the YN55 one of the latest movements from Seiko Industries." :ROFLMAO:

It's actually from Seiko Epson, not a new movement either, new name as it's just an Orient movement (F6922) that Seiko Epson stuck one of their own rotors on and called it YN55.
Seiko Epson took over Orient and shut down Orient's own production facilities, the production of Orient watches and movements are now done at Seiko Epson facilities, yet the Orient movements they produce like the F6922, have better finishing than the rebranded movements like the YN55 which they are now selling to third parties like VE.
 
What is this absolute farce before my eyes? Peters holding bits of paper purporting to represent watches have gone to air priced too low. It's a mockery of a travesty of a sham of a show trial? Do you think we sailed down the Thames on a collective sixpence, Simon Peters? You must insure it..You must insure it - and that's just the packaging...£3000 for this watch..It should be £9000...£19000...£900000
 
Amazing watch knowledge, Hammy. They should have you on as the watch expert.
If they did that their sales figures would plummet because viewers would know exactly what they were buying. They would have accurate descriptions, truth and honesty for a change. That would not work for them at all !
 
Amazing watch knowledge, Hammy. They should have you on as the watch expert.

Thank you, but in reality i'm nowhere near a watch expert. If you collect watches you want to know all about your watch, you develop OCD over your collecting, so you pick up a lot of info as you investigate watches you are buying or interested in etc, Yeah have a wee bit of knowledge and know how to search out what i don't know, can do basic repairs ie resize bracelet, battery change, replace crystal & movement (although not great at the hands, my eyesight these days make them right fiddly little buggers :ROFLMAO: ) etc, but not an expert by any means. If there were levels, like say novice, advanced beginner, competent, proficient and expert, i would place myself as between Adv beginner and competent.
 
What I have noticed on these watch hours is, they tend to go through all the details on what the watch can do fast
They are probably trying to get through it all before the mechanism breaks. 😂
I have to say, of all my Chinese watches over the years, only the branded Seagull ones have had any durability. The rest- two years seems about average, and of course no watchmaker wants to fix them.
 
Kev's at it again, on the N1 Expedition - "the YN55 one of the latest movements from Seiko Industries." :ROFLMAO:

It's actually from Seiko Epson, not a new movement either, new name as it's just an Orient movement (F6922) that Seiko Epson stuck one of their own rotors on and called it YN55.
Seiko Epson took over Orient and shut down Orient's own production facilities, the production of Orient watches and movements are now done at Seiko Epson facilities, yet the Orient movements they produce like the F6922, have better finishing than the rebranded movements like the YN55 which they are now selling to third parties like VE.
Orient watches are one of the great unsung bargains of the watch world. I bought a lovely divers automatic watch with red sunburst dial and day/date, with sapphire glass, for less than £200 delivered (Amazon).
If anyone needs a reasonably priced, genuine, tough, stainless steel watch, they could do a lot worse than Orient. Especially if they listened to IW and these ResultCo and Swan and Edgar / Field’s brands. Which is sad, because when papa fields had Klaus Kobec, he did genuine Swiss mechanisms in some good football branded cases at reasonable prices (though they all had the inflated RRPs).
 
For me, they are all over the place on watches. Numerous lower end of the market brands in general, with most watches priced around the £200 to £300 mark averaged out, I would guess. Rarely, if ever, do you see what I (and I’m no watch expert) as a punter would regard as a quality make. Because my late father’s Breitling Top Time got damaged beyond economical repair recently, I got a payout in the form of a voucher to spend in a jewellers. So I have been looking at lots of brands - mid and higher end in reputation. I certainly didn’t see any of IW’s so called high-end watch makes in the shops I looked in. Essentially, it’s mail order type brands you would have seen in catalogues or the back pages of weekend T.A. Bloids in years gone by.

Why so many brands? I just don’t get it. Why don’t they just focus on say, four or five regulars, rather than 30 plus? Also, their ‘experts’ in general are lacking in any in depth knowledge, and often seem happy to go along with a misleading atmosphere in terms of consistently over exaggerating the quality and so called RRPs of the watches shown.

Pro rata, the levels of watch shows in comparison to other products are massively unbalanced. This suggests to me, they struggle to fill all their viewing hours with a distinct range of different products (virtually no Tech at all now, for example), and constantly fall back on watches as an easy fill in.

In my case, I settled on a Tudor watch, a Rado one and a Citizen Eco-Drive watch to purchase with the voucher. I doubt I will see any of those brands on IW any time soon.
 
For me, they are all over the place on watches. Numerous lower end of the market brands in general, with most watches priced around the £200 to £300 mark averaged out, I would guess. Rarely, if ever, do you see what I (and I’m no watch expert) as a punter would regard as a quality make. Because my late father’s Breitling Top Time got damaged beyond economical repair recently, I got a payout in the form of a voucher to spend in a jewellers. So I have been looking at lots of brands - mid and higher end in reputation. I certainly didn’t see any of IW’s so called high-end watch makes in the shops I looked in. Essentially, it’s mail order type brands you would have seen in catalogues or the back pages of weekend T.A. Bloids in years gone by.

Why so many brands? I just don’t get it. Why don’t they just focus on say, four or five regulars, rather than 30 plus? Also, their ‘experts’ in general are lacking in any in depth knowledge, and often seem happy to go along with a misleading atmosphere in terms of consistently over exaggerating the quality and so called RRPs of the watches shown.

Pro rata, the levels of watch shows in comparison to other products are massively unbalanced. This suggests to me, they struggle to fill all their viewing hours with a distinct range of different products (virtually no Tech at all now, for example), and constantly fall back on watches as an easy fill in.

In my case, I settled on a Tudor watch, a Rado one and a Citizen Eco-Drive watch to purchase with the voucher. I doubt I will see any of those brands on IW any time soon.
You’ve made some really good choices there!
Tudor (I’m sure you’ll know) are owned by Rolex, and much better value than Rolex without having that ‘top salesperson, so I’m better than you’ vibe that Rolex seems to attract. I would buy a Tudor tomorrow, if I had the money!
Rado are part of the Swatch group, and have a long history of using ceramics (unscratchable so they look good forever) in their designs. Swatch places them similar to Longines in their brand hierarchy, but with such a specialist background they are really unique. It depends on model - Rado make divers watches in a range named for Captain Cook and evening-wear ‘dress‘ watches the Coupole Classic and Florence ranges)
So you have two quite high-end choices there.
The Citizen Eco Drive has a great quartz, self-charging mechanism and a sealed battery that can last 20 years or more. Some adjust time automatically by atomic clock, making them, in effect, the most accurate watches ever made! One bit of advice is to always leave it with charge- some people found if you let it actually stop, and then charge it again in sunlight, the inbuilt battery doesn’t like it and doesn’t last as long. I bought one at least ten years ago which works exactly like new!

Three really lovely watches - I think you made superb choices! I hope you enjoy all three for a long time, and that they remind you of your dad.
 
You and Hammy, Professor - you should be the IW watch experts.

Today on IW they have this watch from Thomas Earnshaw.


Ok just another of Thomas Earnshaw Chinese watches, so what you ask.

Well the movement in the middle looks familiar, and here it is next to it's brother/twin.

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And during the show creepy crawley showed us the back of the Earnshaw watch, sorry for poor pic it's off IW's youtube.

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So question is why does that Earnshaw watch have the same Chinese movement as is in a CCCP watch, a movement that Bordell & CCCP have wrongly claimed in the past as a Slava 2427, complete with one of CCCP customised SLAVA rotors?

This is one of those WTF moments. :eek::ROFLMAO:
 
You’ve made some really good choices there!
Tudor (I’m sure you’ll know) are owned by Rolex, and much better value than Rolex without having that ‘top salesperson, so I’m better than you’ vibe that Rolex seems to attract. I would buy a Tudor tomorrow, if I had the money!
Rado are part of the Swatch group, and have a long history of using ceramics (unscratchable so they look good forever) in their designs. Swatch places them similar to Longines in their brand hierarchy, but with such a specialist background they are really unique. It depends on model - Rado make divers watches in a range named for Captain Cook and evening-wear ‘dress‘ watches the Coupole Classic and Florence ranges)
So you have two quite high-end choices there.
The Citizen Eco Drive has a great quartz, self-charging mechanism and a sealed battery that can last 20 years or more. Some adjust time automatically by atomic clock, making them, in effect, the most accurate watches ever made! One bit of advice is to always leave it with charge- some people found if you let it actually stop, and then charge it again in sunlight, the inbuilt battery doesn’t like it and doesn’t last as long. I bought one at least ten years ago which works exactly like new!

Three really lovely watches - I think you made superb choices! I hope you enjoy all three for a long time, and that they remind you of your dad.

My Hyperchrome says what about me? I'm way dressier than those guys. :ROFLMAO:
 
Today on IW they have this watch from Thomas Earnshaw.


Ok just another of Thomas Earnshaw Chinese watches, so what you ask.

Well the movement in the middle looks familiar, and here it is next to it's brother/twin.

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And during the show creepy crawley showed us the back of the Earnshaw watch, sorry for poor pic it's off IW's youtube.

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So question is why does that Earnshaw watch have the same Chinese movement as is in a CCCP watch, a movement that Bordell & CCCP have wrongly claimed in the past as a Slava 2427, complete with one of CCCP customised SLAVA rotors?

This is one of those WTF moments. :eek::ROFLMAO:
Well spotted, Hammy! I think we’ve all wondered how they get away with inaccurate claims like this, but you’ve hit the nail on the head.

Earnshaw are always cagey about saying which Chinese movement they use in which watch, but I’m pretty sure this is a Seagull ST1612, which you can buy direct from Seagull in China for $35 - a wholesale order such as Earnshaw would place will come in very greatly cheaper than that.
 

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