Random musings and general banter.

[Wirral70]

Are you implying she ( VFF)has had help from sources OTHER than those offered from Liz Grant via IW?Now that's just being mean .:mysmilie_13:

She doesn't appear, to my eye at least, to have what one might describe as a particularly 'expressive' face :wink:

Vanessa Feltz Fan Club says she has worked in 'The Beauty Industry' for over 30 years and has tried every product around. When approached by the venerable Elizabeth Grant and asked to use Torricelumn (TM) for a month she soon realised it was the best, the rest is history (or fantasy, you decide).

It's a shame she wears quite so much slap. It would be so nice to be able to actually see her excellent results :mysmilie_59:

 

[Wirral70]

Haha his stories are always half baked. I suppose it was one of his adoring fans, wonder if she went to see him in York last weekend? :mysmilie_13: Anyway, it doesn't make sense, she has more time than ever now to make pies but......who is going to eat them all?

Nothing about him makes sense.

Jeez he's on the right channel :mysmilie_59:

 

[Mommabear]

She doesn't appear, to my eye at least, to have what one might describe as a particularly 'expressive' face :wink:

Vanessa Feltz Fan Club says she has worked in 'The Beauty Industry' for over 30 years and has tried every product around. When approached by the venerable Elizabeth Grant and asked to use Torricelumn (TM) for a month she soon realised it was the best, the rest is history (or fantasy, you decide).

It's a shame she wears quite so much slap. It would be so nice to be able to actually see her excellent results :mysmilie_59:

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I tuned in one day and couldn't believe my eyes. There was Vanessa Feltz FC sat in the luggie :mysmilie_19:

She reckoned she'd hurt her foot and bought the luggie to get around in.

 

[Wirral70]

I tuned in one day and couldn't believe my eyes. There was Vanessa Feltz FC sat in the luggie :mysmilie_19:

She reckoned she'd hurt her foot and bought the luggie to get around in.

There's something not quite right with her is there Momma?

I hate to sound harsh but I'm not sure I believe everything she says :mysmilie_19:

 

[Mommabear]

There's something not quite right with her is there Momma?

I hate to sound harsh but I'm not sure I believe everything she says :mysmilie_19:

It's not an hour I like to watch but she appeared when I put the telly on earlier. She was 'spooning' some 'rich cream' out of a pot and was asking the viewers to see 'how rich it is'. If you've seen one rich cream, you've seen them all! What I look at instead is all the rings she has on.

 

[Wirral70]

It's not an hour I like to watch but she appeared when I put the telly on earlier. She was 'spooning' some 'rich cream' out of a pot and was asking the viewers to see 'how rich it is'. If you've seen one rich cream, you've seen them all! What I look at instead is all the rings she has on.

Yes, and like Creepy Crawley she likes to use the word 'Luxury', which when heard on Ideal World tends to = Tatt.

There's barely anything about her on google (certainly nothing about her professionally), there's a personal twitter account with hardly any activity ever and her first name is mentioned on Elizabeth Grant's Facebook page, which is hardly the hive of activity you'd expect for a supposed international company (what relatively few posts there are they all seem rather 'consistent', if you catch my drift).

I guess she's just a 'demonstrator' like Bev Bad Hare. It all seems a load of overpriced old tosh doesn't it? :mysmilie_59:

 

[Wirral70]

They're still on a mission to shift the Torricelumn (TM).

I have to say, some of the 'before and after' results are impressive to the eye.

It's such a shame they're typically tested over 28 days as of course you only get a 14 day money back guarantee.

The POTD is some deal. Usual Price £249.96 POTD Price £39.99

Amazing! :mysmilie_59:

 

[Retrovertigo]

I'm starting to wonder why they bother employing the presenters. The last hour was "monstrously busy" and just flicked on now to be told they are "stupidly busy"

They may as well just have pictures on the screen for each item and wait for people to start buying, as it seems every item threatens to be a sellout regardless!

Gollum engaged his mouth before his brain last hour as well....what is new you may ask He is shilling the mattresses and said" for the difference in price, you may as well forget the double and go for the king size and treat yourself to a bigger mattress"......errrrm, and what exactly are you supposed to put it on? Just have it overhanging???

The vile Sally Jacks is now dumbfounded....waiting times on the phone of 5-6 minutes...she is lost for words, as that has never happened to her before. Such big queues....so sincere. And she is going to buy 2 of these Vax machines. I'm certain she must have around a dozen vacuum cleaners now! Hideous little woman,

 

[Wirral70]

I'm starting to wonder why they bother employing the presenters. The last hour was "monstrously busy" and just flicked on now to be told they are "stupidly busy"

They may as well just have pictures on the screen for each item and wait for people to start buying, as it seems every item threatens to be a sellout regardless!

Gollum engaged his mouth before his brain last hour as well....what is new you may ask He is shilling the mattresses and said" for the difference in price, you may as well forget the double and go for the king size and treat yourself to a bigger mattress"......errrrm, and what exactly are you supposed to put it on? Just have it overhanging???

The vile Sally Jacks is now dumbfounded....waiting times on the phone of 5-6 minutes...she is lost for words, as that has never happened to her before. Such big queues....so sincere. And she is going to buy 2 of these Vax machines. I'm certain she must have around a dozen vacuum cleaners now! Hideous little woman,

So that's at least 3 Pie Maker's and 2 Vacuum Cleaners that she's supposedly bought just this weekend alone. I'm guessing she must now live in a different, much bigger house to the one she lived in on Come Dine With Me as it was tiny.

LITTLE GOLLUM called the viewer 'naive' if they haven't tried Memory Foam.

No LITTLE GOLLUM, the viewer is only naive if they listen to you. I doubt many do :mysmilie_59:

 

[Muttley]

So they're shilling yet another truck load of 'magic' Lizzie G potions (in nice shiny bottles, of course).

Dirty Peter started his pitch by holding up a very recognisable brand of Anti Aging Moisturiser that he says costs £30 alone (and I can personally confirm that indeed it does) and he then asked the viewer to compare the value to the deal being offered.

Of course, as is often the case with this lot, this is an utterly spurious comparison but what interested me is that said product, which was very obviously Clinique, was actually the Men's Anti Aging Moisturiser (in the familiar Grey tube).

So I'm guessing we now know what brand Dirty Peter ACTUALLY uses.

Then he goes on to scream about Elizabeth Grant being 'award winning' to which Vanessa Feltz Fan Club quickly jumps in and says 'yes, it is award winning here on Ideal World' :mysmilie_19:

My reasoning with the Elizabeth Grant stuff is, if it were as good as they say, it would be available in Boots, John Lewis, Superdrug etc. Personally, I use Simple, Nivea, Olay, and Boots No. 7 when I can get the £5 off vouchers. I'm not particulatry brand loyal, whatever is on offer when I'm buying. I don't fall for all the nonsense they spout, I think lifestyle and skincare routine is more important, like proper cleansing before bedtime. And I'm 50 this year and my skin is pretty good despite not using Lizzie Grant!

 

[Wirral70]

My reasoning with the Elizabeth Grant stuff is, if it were as good as they say, it would be available in Boots, John Lewis, Superdrug etc. Personally, I use Simple, Nivea, Olay, and Boots No. 7 when I can get the £5 off vouchers. I'm not particulatry brand loyal, whatever is on offer when I'm buying. I don't fall for all the nonsense they spout, I think lifestyle and skincare routine is more important, like proper cleansing before bedtime. And I'm 50 this year and my skin is pretty good despite not using Lizzie Grant!

I agree Muttley. But what an insult to people's intelligence to suggest that this no name, exclusively Selly Telly brand is worth £250 let alone £40.

Torricelumn (TM) is of course a created, trade marked word for marketing purposes (see below) and will probably refer to a compound of ingredients which are individually found in many moisturisers.

If 'it' is at the bottom of the Ocean then old Lizzie cannot possibly own 'it' can she? She ain't God (or is she?)

What utter drivel :mysmilie_19:

It's nonsense, classic Selly Telly fodder. I'm not saying it won't moisturise and cleanse the skin but it's clearly a very cheap product, in a half fancy bottle, with a 'story' attached to it.

I have honestly never once heard of this brand being mentioned by name in any reputable publications, not once, and if it ever was then jeez I bet they'd let us know about it :mysmilie_59:

https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU004387106

 

[Retrovertigo]

You know how this channel and QVC say you can try something and send it back if you don't like it. What happens to anything opened and sent back to them?

 

[Wirral70]

You know how this channel and QVC say you can try something and send it back if you don't like it. What happens to anything opened and sent back to them?

Dunno what they do with returns, maybe it's so good they don't get any? :mysmilie_15:

Trouble is with old Lizzie's magic pots is that all the demo's show 'results' after 28 days and you only get 14 days to try them. If they don't get any returns maybe that's the real reason why!

Until they can explain what the preposterous Torricelumn (TM) is, and until their 'expert' Vanessa Feltz Fan Club stops using descriptions such as 'luxury', 'rich', 'gorgeous' and 'indulgent' and generally refrains from only really offering vapid hyperbole I'm firmly in the sceptic camp.

I thinks it's overpriced, everyday plop. It does not appear to be a recognised beauty brand, not at all, and that's after supposedly nearly 60 years.

It puts me in mind of Laurelle and Jean Paul DuPont :mysmilie_59:

 

[Petespants]

Dunno what they do with returns, maybe it's so good they don't get any? :mysmilie_15:

Trouble is with old Lizzie's magic pots is that all the demo's show 'results' after 28 days and you only get 14 days to try them. If they don't get any returns maybe that's the real reason why!

Until they can explain what the preposterous Torricelumn (TM) is, and until their 'expert' Vanessa Feltz Fan Club stops using descriptions such as 'luxury', 'rich', 'gorgeous' and 'indulgent' and generally refrains from only really offering vapid hyperbole I'm firmly in the sceptic camp.

I thinks it's overpriced, everyday plop. It does not appear to be a recognised beauty brand, not at all, and that's after supposedly nearly 60 years.

It puts me in mind of Laurelle and Jean Paul DuPont :mysmilie_59:

If you go onto IW's Facebook page(something I do purely for the entertainment value as I detest FB),you may see that both on I W and QVC returns are often repackaged and resold.Tut tut.Very illegal to resell as new.In the case of face cream makes one wonder what kind of microbes could be colonising said cream after contact with the original owners fingers.Not saying it HAS happened in the case of this item but what indeed does happen when someone decides to send it back when they don't see that amazing difference they were promised?

 

[Wirral70]

If you go onto IW's Facebook page(something I do purely for the entertainment value as I detest FB),you may see that both on I W and QVC returns are often repackaged and resold.Tut tut.Very illegal to resell as new.In the case of face cream makes one wonder what kind of microbes could be colonising said cream after contact with the original owners fingers.Not saying it HAS happened in the case of this item but what indeed does happen when someone decides to send it back as they don't see that amazing difference they were promised.

Very naughty.

Of course I suppose Ideal World could sell any returned Lizzie G Potions as 'reconditioned', just like the Vintage iPads that they shill (the ones that are almost as old as Lizzie herself).

But I guess it's unlikely they get any returns, so magical and miraculous is The Torricelumn (TM) :mysmilie_59:

 

[maymorganlondon]

I confess, I'm not glued to IW this weekend.. But frankly I doubt anything on IW will be as entertaining as this thread! :mysmilie_59:

Like so many I've searched carefully for details about EG and their precious Torricelumn ingredient to no avail. The nearest equivalent on QVC would be the mythical clothing designer Yong Kim (where I envisage an "I'm Spartacus" moment to the question, who is YC)... I couldn't event find if there is or has ever been a patent applied for Torricelumn".

 

[Wirral70]

I confess, I'm not glued to IW this weekend.. But frankly I doubt anything on IW will be as entertaining as this thread! :mysmilie_59:

Like so many I've searched carefully for details about EG and their precious Torricelemn ingredient to no avail. The nearest equivalent on QVC would be the mythical clothing designer Yong Kim (where I envisage an "I'm Spartacus" moment to the question, who is YC)... I couldn't event find if there is or has ever been a patent applied ofon Torriclumn".

It's merely a trademarked word, just like 'Coke' or 'Persil' or 'Tesco' or anything really.

Nobody has found Torricelumn (TM) anywhere, ever, as it didn't and doesn't and never will really exist other than as a proprietary name for ............ something mixed up!

It's like 'Coke' is a brand name for a Soda that is made from several ingredients, and all those ingredients are readily and regularly found in a million other products.

Think about it. How on earth can anyone own, and use exclusively worldwide, something that is natural at the bottom of the Sea?

That's like McCain owning Potatoes!

L'Oréal always do it as well, they invent the most exotic sounding names like Intra-Cylane (TM) and Filloxane (TM) for compounds of very commonly found ingredients. In fact loads of their products also contain acids from Brown Algae which is perhaps the kind of thing that Lizzie eludes to with her Ocean spiel.

It's perfectly above board but it's an absolute load of utter marketing nonsense. However, if I had to, I'd rather spend dough on L'Oréal stuff than Lizzies :mysmilie_59:

 

[Muttley]

I agree Muttley. But what an insult to people's intelligence to suggest that this no name, exclusively Selly Telly brand is worth £250 let alone £40.

Torricelumn (TM) is of course a created, trade marked word for marketing purposes (see below) and will probably refer to a compound of ingredients which are individually found in many moisturisers.

If 'it' is at the bottom of the Ocean then old Lizzie cannot possibly own 'it' can she? She ain't God (or is she?)

What utter drivel :mysmilie_19:

It's nonsense, classic Selly Telly fodder. I'm not saying it won't moisturise and cleanse the skin but it's clearly a very cheap product, in a half fancy bottle, with a 'story' attached to it.

I have honestly never once heard of this brand being mentioned by name in any reputable publications, not once, and if it ever was then jeez I bet they'd let us know about it :mysmilie_59:

https://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU004387106

Whenever any no name stuff like Elizabeth Grant is on, and they say the recommended retail price is a certain price, my mum says "says who?". It's not like you can do price comparison anywhere is it. My mum doesn't get fooled by their nonsense.

 

[Wirral70]

Whenever any no name stuff like Elizabeth Grant is on, and they say the recommended retail price is a certain price, my mum says "says who?". It's not like you can do price comparison anywhere is it. My mum doesn't get fooled by their nonsense.

That's the thing with Selly Telly on a whole really Muttley. I'd say the majority of merchandise sold across the shopping channels is impossible to price check as it's not readily available elsewhere.

Makes sense I guess, why would anyone bother with them otherwise?

Elizabeth Grant really is Selly Telly fodder though, clearly. If it works for you then good but to compare it to Clinique would seem ludicrous.

But then Ideal World has become a pretty ludicrous outfit :mysmilie_59:

 

[mr tom]

when you haven't been on here for about a week and return to find delicious postings.

everything has been informative and/or hilarious.

On the subject of presenters/guests disliking each other. I do think it is exaggerated or wishful thinking in most cases, but I do detect that Joe Remblance is sick of Peter Simon's **** and has been for a while.