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If the menopause was something new then I could understand the current rush for “celebrities” and QVC to talk about it, but women have been going through it for thousands and thousands of years with no one feeling the need to discuss it in public.

Leave it to the medical experts to help women who do suffer throughout the menopause, not to shopping channels and “celebrities.”
 
donna255 said:
Old Pip will jump on anything to get himself in the public eye even more than usual. Same with Holly.
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Don't they all belong to the same management team ? until Holly broke away and decided to make more millions running her own Agency, along with husband's Production Company that makes most of the programmes she hosts - more millions for them. The menopause is just another money making vehicle for her.
 
It clearly is a problem for some women and there is nothing wrong with making it more of an open subject and being clear there is help available. However, I do dislike the way it is now being treated like an illness that everyone must start taking drugs for, even before it actually happens. This perimenopause "phase" is very woolly in its definitions. And I am also sick of bandwagon jumping slebs making a fortune out of it. Personally I didn't suffer any bad symptoms and I don't enjoy listening to discussions about it - makes me feel quite queasy, like biology lessons.
 
Same age as me Patsy, and to be honest I don't know if I "sailed" through it or not !!!! There was only my late husband to let me know if I was moody, but as we were tetchy with one another a lot anyway, it was difficult to tell whether I was menopausal or just living with an irritating husband !!!!!
 
donna255 said:
I think we should be getting the prostate out there more.

Dame Edna used to talk about her Norman's prostate back in the 80s.

The selebs should be jumping on that bandwagon.

QVC could have Charlie, Dale, Simon, etc do shows about it selling useless vitamins to take.
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There's no profit to be made from cancer, and with the menopause they're guaranteed to have a platform which afflicts more than half the population !

Give it a few months and it will have run its course, the same way that bi-polar did a few years ago, then recently a few slebs were convinced they are dyslexic or are on the cusp of autism. A huge percentage of the population suffer with arthritis - osteo or rheumatoid or both, but its not a 'fashionable' health issue for slebs to either admit to or getting involved with, but is something they have a high probability of being afflicted with as they age.
 
JFB said:
PS mine hasn’t been great. Had to battle with my GP to get HRT - taking that meant I could function again. Maybe I am paying the penance for no PMT and periods that were no bother whatsoever
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I've been a walking hormonal nightmare all my life - periods at 8, truly awful puberty, 7 miscarriages (before and after my daughter), miserable PMT that made me suicidal every month and horrible, heavy periods that I found out belatedly was endometriosis.

I so looked forward to menopause but then it REALLY got bad. I was miserable living and even more miserable to live with.

I've been on HRT for 7 years and it was a hell of a job to get it. I had tablets first and felt like a new woman - better than I had for a decade. Then I started getting suicidal again so went back and asked to change to patches. They were a nightmare as they fell off every shower when I had sweats (they weren't up to the job) and irritated my skin.

I'd actually heard about Oestrogel from Lorraine on telly so asked about that. The female GP got quite nasty with me, repeating 'pill or patches' several times until I gave up. I did notice her finger pointing directly at Oestrogel in the BNF during the consult.

Then I asked for a gynae referral and got another female doctor who told me that women only wanted HRT to make themselves more attractive to younger men! I kid you not!

I finally found a really great gynae who put me on Oestrogel and a progesterone pill to be taken every day. That gave me terrible mood swings and I was back to suicide so she switched me to Evorel patches or Uterogestan to use vaginally if my skin got too irritated for the progesterone phase.

Finally, I get some relief both physically and mentally. I never thought I'd be having periods at my age but I missed a few months last year with the HRT shortage and the symptoms came straight back with a vengeance. I don't like having periods but they're light compared to the natural ones I've had in the past. I could technically go on continuous HRT that would stop my periods but as I'm still suffering with mild PMT, and don't want it month-long and also my nan died from endometrial cancer, my gynae is happier if I have a monthly bleed.

I no longer have to sleep on a towel or change bedding halfway through the night, don't have waves of flushes that floor me (I have transverse myelitis and am temperature-sensitive) though I don't feel as good as I did that first month. I'm still 100% better than those few months without, though.

Most of my friends have breezed through theirs but one refused to take 'unnatural' HRT and instead spent an absolute fortune in the health shop over the years. She finally gave up and tried HRT a few months ago and is now back to normal doing triathlons again. We are chalk and cheese - she's extremely slim and active and eats healthily so I'm not completely convinced with the argument that lifestyle makes a difference as she's suffered so badly.

I'm glad meno, periods, PMS, etc. is being openly talked about. My great-niece is being made to feel ashamed about her periods by the boys in her class since she had a period leak.

NONE of us would be here if our mothers - all our ancestors - didn't have these natural hormonal changes. There's nothing shameful about our bodily functions. What IS shameful is the way companies and zlebs are trying to profit from it! Especially when they get it wrong like Meg Matthews on QVC trying to sell her stuff and getting basic anatomy wrong while she was at it.

I also agree with Donna that we need to be discussing men's prostates and even their andropause. I've seen a few friends lose great marriages when their husbands' hormones drop and they've felt the need to buy a sportscar and get a younger woman to make them feel good again. If more men went to the GP and asked for HRT I'm sure the middle-age divorce rate would come down. I do know of one single man who was persuaded by my friend to see the GP about his depression, lack of energy and a disappearing sex-life. He was prescribed testosterone gel and the effect on his happiness and health has been life-changing for them both. They're enjoying life again and looking forward to retirement as they should be.
 
alter ego said:
I've been a walking hormonal nightmare all my life - periods at 8, truly awful puberty, 7 miscarriages (before and after my daughter), miserable PMT that made me suicidal every month and horrible, heavy periods that I found out belatedly was endometriosis.

I so looked forward to menopause but then it REALLY got bad. I was miserable living and even more miserable to live with.

I've been on HRT for 7 years and it was a hell of a job to get it. I had tablets first and felt like a new woman - better than I had for a decade. Then I started getting suicidal again so went back and asked to change to patches. They were a nightmare as they fell off every shower when I had sweats (they weren't up to the job) and irritated my skin.

I'd actually heard about Oestrogel from Lorraine on telly so asked about that. The female GP got quite nasty with me, repeating 'pill or patches' several times until I gave up. I did notice her finger pointing directly at Oestrogel in the BNF during the consult.

Then I asked for a gynae referral and got another female doctor who told me that women only wanted HRT to make themselves more attractive to younger men! I kid you not!

I finally found a really great gynae who put me on Oestrogel and a progesterone pill to be taken every day. That gave me terrible mood swings and I was back to suicide so she switched me to Evorel patches or Uterogestan to use vaginally if my skin got too irritated for the progesterone phase.

Finally, I get some relief both physically and mentally. I never thought I'd be having periods at my age but I missed a few months last year with the HRT shortage and the symptoms came straight back with a vengeance. I don't like having periods but they're light compared to the natural ones I've had in the past. I could technically go on continuous HRT that would stop my periods but as I'm still suffering with mild PMT, and don't want it month-long and also my nan died from endometrial cancer, my gynae is happier if I have a monthly bleed.

I no longer have to sleep on a towel or change bedding halfway through the night, don't have waves of flushes that floor me (I have transverse myelitis and am temperature-sensitive) though I don't feel as good as I did that first month. I'm still 100% better than those few months without, though.

Most of my friends have breezed through theirs but one refused to take 'unnatural' HRT and instead spent an absolute fortune in the health shop over the years. She finally gave up and tried HRT a few months ago and is now back to normal doing triathlons again. We are chalk and cheese - she's extremely slim and active and eats healthily so I'm not completely convinced with the argument that lifestyle makes a difference as she's suffered so badly.

I'm glad meno, periods, PMS, etc. is being openly talked about. My great-niece is being made to feel ashamed about her periods by the boys in her class since she had a period leak.

NONE of us would be here if our mothers - all our ancestors - didn't have these natural hormonal changes. There's nothing shameful about our bodily functions. What IS shameful is the way companies and zlebs are trying to profit from it! Especially when they get it wrong like Meg Matthews on QVC trying to sell her stuff and getting basic anatomy wrong while she was at it.

I also agree with Donna that we need to be discussing men's prostates and even their andropause. I've seen a few friends lose great marriages when their husbands' hormones drop and they've felt the need to buy a sportscar and get a younger woman to make them feel good again. If more men went to the GP and asked for HRT I'm sure the middle-age divorce rate would come down. I do know of one single man who was persuaded by my friend to see the GP about his depression, lack of energy and a disappearing sex-life. He was prescribed testosterone gel and the effect on his happiness and health has been life-changing for them both. They're enjoying life again and looking forward to retirement as they should be.
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There is a serial on BBC Radio 4 called something like "28ish days" following the whole cycle, but I haven't had chance to listen to any of it yet, I think an episode was on today.
 
brissles said:
There's no profit to be made from cancer, and with the menopause they're guaranteed to have a platform which afflicts more than half the population !

Give it a few months and it will have run its course, the same way that bi-polar did a few years ago, then recently a few slebs were convinced they are dyslexic or are on the cusp of autism. A huge percentage of the population suffer with arthritis - osteo or rheumatoid or both, but its not a 'fashionable' health issue for slebs to either admit to or getting involved with, but is something they have a high probability of being afflicted with as they age.
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Brissles, I have rheumatoid arthritis and I don't think there's much awareness of what it is. It's not wear and tear, your immune system attacks your joints in the same way as it would try to stop you getting flu. So they give you drugs to slow down your immune system. Which makes you more vulnerable to Covid etc. And you still have to deal with flare ups that can be agonising - I went to Urgent Care once in agony thinking I had dislocated my shoulder but there was nothing wrong with my joint. And you get chronic fatigue sometimes where you can barely function. I've had it 7 years and it hasn't caused me any permanent damage yet but there's no cure, drugs just slow down the joint degeneration.

I've just quickly Googled slebs with RA and the most famous names for me were Lucille Ball and Kathleen Turner. If more people with a high social media presence had it I'm sure it would be spoken about more. But as you say there are lots of "less fashionable" disorders that are not really discussed.
 
Me too Muttley., its part of the Lupus I've suffered 30 years with. Few people even know what Lupus is, and I read the other day that Katherine Ryan, the Canadian comedian also has it, and I think there was an actress in Little House on the Prairie who was a sufferer too, but by and large its still very much on the periphery of fashionable health issues.
 
brissles said:
There's no profit to be made from cancer, and with the menopause they're guaranteed to have a platform which afflicts more than half the population !

Give it a few months and it will have run its course, the same way that bi-polar did a few years ago, then recently a few slebs were convinced they are dyslexic or are on the cusp of autism. A huge percentage of the population suffer with arthritis - osteo or rheumatoid or both, but its not a 'fashionable' health issue for slebs to either admit to or getting involved with, but is something they have a high probability of being afflicted with as they age.
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Yes I've got Osteoarthritis in my hip, due for a hip replacement in August. I wish they'd cover things like that which, as you say, is more common as you get older.
 

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