I'm with you. Surely it's better just to say "this is a cardigan, it's green, has x amount of buttons, made of such and such, length is whatever, washable/non-washable, and here comes so and so to show you what it looks like on". My annoyance is with the nonsense that accompanies all that. I have eyes :22:, I can see if it's my kind of cardi or not (nearly always not!) - I don't need all that c**p with the "oooh look, gather it in, wear it with this/that/the next thing, dress it up/down/sideways, team it with whatever or wear it with your pyjamas when you go to Safeways", trying to turn it into something it isn't. It's a cardi, not rocket science. Although being fair, some of the best entertainment is watching the levels he will go to just to flog said cardi! :45: And I know, I could just turn over but then I'd have nothing to moan about......