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I’m another “pregnancy spotter” 🤗. In my case it comes from managing a large department comprising 70% women, many of ‘children-bearing’ age. It was a constant battle to spot the pregnancies before they were announced so we were always on the front foot for maternity cover.

I once had someone apply for a promotion and when she arrived for interview my baby radar kicked in as she had a fuller face than usual.

obviously I wouldn’t have turned her down if she had been the best candidate.
 
ERICS MUM said:
I’m another “pregnancy spotter” 🤗. In my case it comes from managing a large department comprising 70% women, many of ‘children-bearing’ age. It was a constant battle to spot the pregnancies before they were announced so we were always on the front foot for maternity cover.

I once had someone apply for a promotion and when she arrived for interview my baby radar kicked in as she had a fuller face than usual.

obviously I wouldn’t have turned her down if she had been the best candidate.
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I've never been the maternal type but my pregnancy radar is spot on😏
 
My Mother was good at this,I remember her saying the Queen was pregnant when she was on tour abroad and nothing had been announced, don’t remember if it was Andrew or Edward.She also said Diana was too young for Charles.
 
Silver Fox said:
My Mother was good at this,I remember her saying the Queen was pregnant when she was on tour abroad and nothing had been announced, don’t remember if it was Andrew or Edward.She also said Diana was too young for Charles.
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she was right about Charles but he was always "married" to his mistress for decades even before Diane came on the scene
 
Yep, and being the same age as Charlie, I always wondered what women saw in him (apart from the obvious), because he always looked like a geek, and THAT old man hairstyle ! ok he couldn't go around with a Beatles haircut, but hell he could have tried to look a bit modern. On the occasions we saw him on public appearances abroad, his dance moves were laughable. Not surprised that Camilla went for him - 2 of a kind, but Diana ? what WAS she thinking ?
 
brissles said:
Yep, and being the same age as Charlie, I always wondered what women saw in him (apart from the obvious), because he always looked like a geek, and THAT old man hairstyle ! ok he couldn't go around with a Beatles haircut, but hell he could have tried to look a bit modern. On the occasions we saw him on public appearances abroad, his dance moves were laughable. Not surprised that Camilla went for him - 2 of a kind, but Diana ? what WAS she thinking ?
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I met him, just after he got engaged, he was better in the flesh but agree about the hair.
 
boffy said:
she was right about Charles but he was always "married" to his mistress for decades even before Diane came on the scene
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Diana was a Virgin baby machine for the Monarchy 😏very sad what happened ..she was kept and bred for the Job and as soon as he said “ whatever love is “ in the interview after their engagement, I think it was a done deal it was not loves young dream for him.
 
boffy said:
she was right about Charles but he was always "married" to his mistress for decades even before Diane came on the scene
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I remember watching a docudrama about the whole affair and it was shown that Camilla actually helped Charles "choose" Diana....saying she was perfect for the job - Young, attractive, naïve, a member of the aristocracy, no scandal attached to her etc etc - It made me think - Poor girl set up to fail! At the time I knew nothing, or suspected anything untoward, and even brushed off the "whatever love means" comment as nervous bumbling. ....just awful and no wonder she ended up with mental health issues and had affairs. She was a good woman - too good for him!
 
May said:
Diana was a Virgin baby machine for the Monarchy 😏very sad what happened ..she was kept and bred for the Job and as soon as he said “ whatever love is “ in the interview after their engagement, I think it was a done deal it was not loves young dream for him.
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From the day they got engaged the media went overboard & so did most of the country. It would have taken a very strong woman, with a lot of people supporting her, to escape the national fairy tale & neither of those were true for her. I saw a programme about the pre wedding tv interview with Angela Rippon & Andrew Gardner, at the end when AR wished them every happiness, he looked at Diana & she looked down at the floor - her face said everything. Regardless of anything she did in the later years in 1981 she was young & quite naive & I always felt she was let down by the Spencers as much as by the Windsors.
May, it's lovely to hear from you 💐
 
I think it's a crying shame that Charles was not allowed to follow his heart in the first place and marry Camilla.

So much sadness and suffering happened as a result of the heir not being able to choose a woman he genuinely loved because she wasn't pure as the driven snow. And what a whopping double standard!!! The Queen chose with her heart in 1947, and you can bet your bottom dollar Prince Philip was no blushing virgin.

Obviously there would have been no fairy tale princess story with its crowning tragedy. No Prince William, no Prince Harry. Hard to imagine, I know, now.

I think Diana has been elevated to martyrdom, and sainthood. I think Camilla has been overly villified. Both are unwarranted imo. The heart wants what it wants, and I feel compassion for them all.
 
Yes, apparently a lot of young women from European royalty were looked at for suitability, but many were Catholic which was a no no. Then it had to be someone with no baggage, scandal or lovers lurking in the cupboard, and couldn't believe their luck when a prime virgin was on their doorstep - on a nearby Estate !

Charles had numerous liaisons including Camilla, one prominent lover was Dale Tryon - Kanga, an Australian who also 'helped' Charlie pick a bride. It was reported that Kanga had mental issues and was obsessed with Charlie, eventually she had a serious fall, ended up in a wheelchair, and died over 20 years ago.

Diana was a 'young' and not worldly 19 - and it was a different time than now when 19 year olds have more sex than a rutting deer. Its bad enough at any age to learn your husband loves another, so imagine being 20 and having to cope with that even before the wedding takes place. No woman, however strong, can come through that unscathed. Even her sisters told her she had to go through with it because the teatowels had been printed. What a bloody prospect. In the end I'm surprised she actually agreed to go to bed with him.
 
I’ll be honest I’m not a Royalist, I think if you’re going to have a King or Queen then only them and their immediate family should be paid, not the unemployed hangers on. I’ve heard the argument they bring a lot of revenue in but I think that’s more to do with the historic buildings like Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London as opposed to a queen in residence they never see. As for Diana, she was used as breeding stock to provide an Heir and a spare. She did really love Prince Charles it stood out a mile, the hurt she must’ve felt when finding out he loves, always loved, someone else, yes there definitely was three in that marriage. She was too good for the Royals and her legacy she left behind is a more modern Royal family because let’s face it, they’re full of divorcees, adulterers and a law unto themselves...........ask Prince Andrew.
 
maymorganlondon said:
I think it's a crying shame that Charles was not allowed to follow his heart in the first place and marry Camilla.

So much sadness and suffering happened as a result of the heir not being able to choose a woman he genuinely loved because she wasn't pure as the driven snow. And what a whopping double standard!!! The Queen chose with her heart in 1947, and you can bet your bottom dollar Prince Philip was no blushing virgin.

Obviously there would have been no fairy tale princess story with its crowning tragedy. No Prince William, no Prince Harry. Hard to imagine, I know, now.

I think Diana has been elevated to martyrdom, and sainthood. I think Camilla has been overly villified. Both are unwarranted imo. The heart wants what it wants, and I feel compassion for them all.
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A brilliant summing up, thank you.
 
shopperholic said:
I’ll be honest I’m not a Royalist, I think if you’re going to have a King or Queen then only them and their immediate family should be paid, not the unemployed hangers on. I’ve heard the argument they bring a lot of revenue in but I think that’s more to do with the historic buildings like Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London as opposed to a queen in residence they never see. As for Diana, she was used as breeding stock to provide an Heir and a spare. She did really love Prince Charles it stood out a mile, the hurt she must’ve felt when finding out he loves, always loved, someone else, yes there definitely was three in that marriage. She was too good for the Royals and her legacy she left behind is a more modern Royal family because let’s face it, they’re full of divorcees, adulterers and a law unto themselves...........ask Prince Andrew.
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I've just read this out to my Mr T, he says he's not a royalist but that I am because I'd rather have a monarch than someone like the Donald, he doesn't even think we need a president, just the pm or even our cat, but we agree with you completely. It's quite interesting that the Duke of Kent's father & Lord Snowden had very colourful private lives & if they were around today social media & the media would be full of all their exploits.
 

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