Jill Franks' Bulldog Stolen/Lost

[Weathergirl]

Of course there is no comparison, you are a Mum and have given birth - so you would not be natural if you thought otherwise about your children. I just comment on those of us who, for whatever reason, do not have children, but still have that all consuming, overwhelming love for a heartbeat that's wrapped in fur and just happens to have 4 legs instead of 2.

That's ok Brissles I agree with you. I felt the same before my little ones came along. Our cat is very much part of the family and the kids adore him (even though he does not necessarily feel the same way....)

 

[Vienna]

Me and OH both have kids and grandkids but they grow up, leave home, move away and get on with their own lives. Our dog is only 2 years old, my cat is 8 and they`re both liable to be with us until either we or they die. OH recently had a heart attack ( 2 weeks ago ) and it made me realise if anything should have happened to him and then anything should happen to me, our kids and grandkids would be looked after just fine but not so our animals.
Consequently I`ve now made provision for that day, as all animal owners should and my middle son would be all too happy to take our giddy labrador who he loves and my youngest son would be happy to take our unsociable cat to join his equally unsociable cat. It`s a load off my mind because I would have hated for them to be put down or put into an animal home.

 

[JR's Ego]

Can someone please post if they actually know why Scruncher was assumed stolen? Maybe Im having a brain dead day, but Is their any story thats been made public to verify it was a crime? I'm very much confused.. was Scruncher left alone? I think it strange that there hasn't been any details. Just the word 'stolen'

Did the owner just happen to look down to pavement and Scruncher was gone, or just a lead dangling?

Apologies if I've missed something along the way

 

[Ballerina]

Don't Spend All Your Pennies

Remember, don't spend all your pennies in this life, take some with you in traveller's cheques!

Inge x

 

[donna255]

Can someone please post if they actually know why Scruncher was assumed stolen? Maybe Im having a brain dead day, but Is their any story thats been made public to verify it was a crime? I'm very much confused.. was Scruncher left alone? I think it strange that there hasn't been any details. Just the word 'stolen'

Did the owner just happen to look down to pavement and Scruncher was gone, or just a lead dangling?

Apologies if I've missed something along the way

Jill is just saying missing/stolen.

Earlier in the thread its give some more details, walking along tow path 11pm and he was off the lead. Dog such as Bulldogs are better with harness because of the shape of their faces and the way they breathe. He was not a young dog so trained to walk to heel, I am hoping. They have younger one about 2 now I would think???? She had photos of Mr.Bojangles as a puppy on air. So if husband was distracted by him Scruncher might not have been noticed gone for quite a few minutes.

Well the first thing the charities will tell you, do not pull up the full details of how the a pet went especially as its well know nasty people will phone the number and give fake information, such as I had you dog its dead now. How much will you give me and send it to and I will return your dog. You let the authorities, dog shelters, microchip people, local vets in the area have them in case the dog is found or brought into them.

We have dog wardens in Northern Ireland and they pass lost dogs and cats to the pound in the hope they will be picked up.

 

[amn]

It's hard, for me at least, to explain what's so special about pets and makes one love them so deeply. I don't have children so obviously don't know what it's like, but I imagine it's a similar or at least vaguely comparable relationship. I've no desire for children so my two cats are my equivalent to them I guess, and I feel very protective towards them. I care more about them than myself really. Their personalities are so distinct and charming, I love watching their various behaviours. The popular perception of cats as aloof and uninterested is nonsense, they're very affectionate and sweet, both to each other and to me. They're also really funny and incredibly entertaining; I could watch their antics all day. My eldest cat has epilepsy, it's relatively mild though thankfully. Still horrific to see him suffer a fit, incredibly distressing. He doesn't understand what's happening and is very confused and upset when he comes round, it's heartbreaking. You just wish it could happen to you instead, at least a human can understand conditions like that and not be scared. They're such beautiful, innocent creatures, you just want to protect them so much.

My son has epilepsy - he's a human and no, he doesn't understand what is happening to him when he has a seizure because he also has severe learning difficulties. I'm an animal lover and we have a dog who we love very much, and we'd be upset if he were seriously ill, but as someone else has said there is absolutely no comparison between the heartbreak of seeing a child go through some of the things our son has to and a sick animal.

 

[mossie269]

amn we are all different to people who do not have children their love love is channelled to to their pet whatever it is and it is just as important to them .

 

[louise66]

My son has epilepsy - he's a human and no, he doesn't understand what is happening to him when he has a seizure because he also has severe learning difficulties. I'm an animal lover and we have a dog who we love very much, and we'd be upset if he were seriously ill, but as someone else has said there is absolutely no comparison between the heartbreak of seeing a child go through some of the things our son has to and a sick animal.

I have been epileptic since birth, and there is no way I would wish this upon my boxers. A friend's dog was epileptic and, unfortunately, he had to have him put to sleep, as the seizures were so bad. At least with people, they are aware what epilepsy is, and whether they get a warning - I am unable to do anything to prevent it - or not, they still know they have had a seizure, and that medication is being used to help them. A dog has absolutely no idea why it is having these episodes, or what is happening. It cannot tell anyone how it is feeling, is it well or ill enough to be euthanized? A child/adult can relay it's feelings to parents/doctors to, consequently get the best treatment for it's particular problem. I have never wanted children, and would never feel the way about my babies about kids. Imagine how you feel about your kids; that is how we dog parents feel about our guys. Even if you cannot understand this, respect it.
I agree, you are advised not to go into the whys and wherefores too deeply regarding the circumstances of a missing/stolen pet. If Scruncher was stolen and, if this was the case, he will be well taken care of to be in a desirable condition to sell on, how was he transported from the towpath to wherever? Even carrying him to a vehicle, a bulldog is a heavy dog, so it was probably a guy, an adult male.
The ironic thing is, if the perpetrator contacted Jill, anonymously, he would get more from her to get her baby back, than from a possible buyer. She would even promise not to contact the police, or do anything which would be detrimental to Scruncher being returned to her.
I would employ a private detective - this may seem excessive - to find out what happened to my guy, and get him back. You know your own dog and Scruncher going missing was completely out of character for him Jill says. So I have no doubt he was stolen, and the reason why.
I hope returning to work is kind of like therapy for Jill, by occupying her mind with things other than the trauma of missing Scruncher. I know I couldn't do it. But we're all different.

 

[amn]

I have been epileptic since birth, and there is no way I would wish this upon my boxers. A friend's dog was epileptic and, unfortunately, he had to have him put to sleep, as the seizures were so bad. At least with people, they are aware what epilepsy is, and whether they get a warning - I am unable to do anything to prevent it - or not, they still know they have had a seizure, and that medication is being used to help them. A dog has absolutely no idea why it is having these episodes, or what is happening. It cannot tell anyone how it is feeling, is it well or ill enough to be euthanized? A child/adult can relay it's feelings to parents/doctors to, consequently get the best treatment for it's particular problem. I have never wanted children, and would never feel the way about my babies about kids. Imagine how you feel about your kids; that is how we dog parents feel about our guys. Even if you cannot understand this, respect it.
I agree, you are advised not to go into the whys and wherefores too deeply regarding the circumstances of a missing/stolen pet. If Scruncher was stolen and, if this was the case, he will be well taken care of to be in a desirable condition to sell on, how was he transported from the towpath to wherever? Even carrying him to a vehicle, a bulldog is a heavy dog, so it was probably a guy, an adult male.
The ironic thing is, if the perpetrator contacted Jill, anonymously, he would get more from her to get her baby back, than from a possible buyer. She would even promise not to contact the police, or do anything which would be detrimental to Scruncher being returned to her.
I would employ a private detective - this may seem excessive - to find out what happened to my guy, and get him back. You know your own dog and Scruncher going missing was completely out of character for him Jill says. So I have no doubt he was stolen, and the reason why.
I hope returning to work is kind of like therapy for Jill, by occupying her mind with things other than the trauma of missing Scruncher. I know I couldn't do it. But we're all different.

As I stated in my post, my son has no understanding of what is happening to him. He has such severe learning disabilities he hasn't the cognitive function to have any concept of any aspect of his condition. He also has no speech, and so is unable to communicate how he feels, how scared he feels or what he needs, so no, he cannot relay his feelings to adults nor understand what is happening to him.
At no point did I say I didn't 'respect' or 'understand' that some people care very deeply for their pets, simply that my personal experience is that the distress of a sick child and a sick pet aren't comparable.

 

[LADY TIA]

I think we have to draw our own comparisons based on our own circumstances if that's what is desired.

I've lost very close relatives and so has my partner at a young age and the loss of my beautiful Tia (in my avatar) in September 2012 at the grand old age of 20 was devastating for us (we still can't part with a number of her things) and I think because we all lived together and spent all our time together when not at work, out and so on, in day to day terms her loss was very evident and painful and still is now, as is the loss of my main care giver up to when I was about 5 (my Nan), she died when I was 15 and I'm 40 this year.

I don't have children so have nothing to draw on and would feel that for me, I love all my loved ones and feel their pain and pain of their loss if they are no longer here, they are all part of my life and I could never compare in terms of pain and suffering and how that might make me feel, furry loved one or otherwise

 

[louise66]

As I stated in my post, my son has no understanding of what is happening to him. He has such severe learning disabilities he hasn't the cognitive function to have any concept of any aspect of his condition. He also has no speech, and so is unable to communicate how he feels, how scared he feels or what he needs, so no, he cannot relay his feelings to adults nor understand what is happening to him.
At no point did I say I didn't 'respect' or 'understand' that some people care very deeply for their pets, simply that my personal experience is that the distress of a sick child and a sick pet aren't comparable.

Amn, please don't think I was accusing you personally of disregarding the feelings of others. I can totally comprehend the tortuous situation your son is in, and the devastation this too often misunderstood illness has on his life. Because my mum has had to cope with it all of my life - she has never complained, always put me first - I am also aware of the effect it has on you, just seeing your boy mid seizure. I wish I could take it away from my mum, I couldn't manage without her, even at my age. We all do whatever we can for those we love, be they animals or humans.
Best wishes.

 

[May]

Forgive me i have not been here for a while but saw this post and both subject mentioned have moved me to write....i really feel for Jill...our dog is the centre of our lives ..all four of us ..2 twenty something year old lads...my youngest began to have fits from the age of 13 ...totally randomly ...without warning ...we thought he was choking ...when he turned blue we honestly thought he was dying ...a few visits to a recommended neurologist thank God helped our son become controlled with his condition through medication...I cannot even put into words the feelings I had as his mother watching him go into a seizure ...no words really cut it ...at the age of twenty one with advice from the doc he tried to ween himself off meds as many youngsters can and do "grow out" of this condition but He was at his friends house and had a full blown fit again....his friends were amazing although very very frightened when it happened...I wanted to put my head down the toilet and be sick with the fright of it all...my heart goes out to anybody who sees their loved one go into a seizure and are not controlled ...my friend has the same situation with her disabled son ... To lose our dog the way Jill has would be total devastation ...to lose our son to a seizure would be beyond words and i totally adore animals ....as you say Weathergirl ...I would have to be sedated ...beyond anything ...my brother and sis inlaw had a dog who had fits ....before our son had them and when we told them they went ashen white as they new the stress with the dog...and my friends sis in law ...the one with the diasabled son began crying when she found out ...but i do feel for Jill something i never understood before we had dogs

 

[Julius]

This guy has an unusual pet - a mole! I'm not sure how kind it is to keep a mole as a pet in a small terrarium, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqa0N68qmdw

 

[donna255]

Very cruel. They are burrowing animals and move around a lot.

 

[Ballerina]

This guy has an unusual pet - a mole! I'm not sure how kind it is to keep a mole as a pet in a small terrarium, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqa0N68qmdw

The guy is a cruel moron, as Donna says they are burrowing animals. They are wild and should not be kept as a domestic pet.

Inge

 

[Julius]

I think the mole is cute but I would rather it be in its natural environment. Poor little mole being picked up by a giant human . Must be terrified.

 

[thatu]

Cute little furry burrowing things will usually evoke sympathy, but we humans forget that we keep so many different types of animals out of their own natural natural environments and don't give them the choice to do what they do naturally, in the wild - whose interests are we looking after?

 

[Breeze]

I have several pet moles I think, looking at the number of molehills in my garden.
The soil off them makes wonderful potting compost :rock:

 

[Caroleanne]

This is getting to be a real problem I know of two people whose dogs have been out exercising and disappeared almost under their owners noses never to be seen again despite quite large rewards being offered Just seen the following on Face Book

Animal Search UK
Hello Everyone, We are looking for any dog owners that have had their dog STOLEN and willing to appear on TV to help raise awareness of this terrible crime. Please can you contact us on 01432 266 900 or 07527 700 772. Thank you for your help.

 

[Suki 1]

Jil Franks Dog

Is there any news on Jills missing dog?