Jade Troth is back

[Marietta]

There were some still showing afterwards - so they definitely didn't sell out. I'd be amazed if they sold even one at that price.

However, they were very generous by putting on a 2x £480 split pay option...........

Of course they didn't sell out, nothing ever does!

 

[historymystery]

Where in the world do they get their prices from? I think they pluck a random figure out of the air and add £100. I presume the price shown for this tat - aka 'bargain' - was the start price, but unless it rapidly went down to £2.50 forget it.

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[TheManWithNoName]

Where in the world do they get their prices from? I think they pluck a random figure out of the air and add £100. I presume the price shown for this tat - aka 'bargain' - was the start price, but unless it rapidly went down to £2.50 forget it.

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No. That was the final price! I wouldn't have posted it if it was the start price.

 

[Nico]

I thought it was just me that was sick of seeing this “Dave” and his bland jade. I swear I burst out laughing one night when I saw one of the carvings that looked like a cooked prawn!

 

[historymystery]

No. That was the final price! I wouldn't have posted it if it was the start price.

Hell's bells, it was a ridiculous price for a start price, let alone a final price. I remember seeing comments on Trustpilot reviews a few years back about how unrealistic the start prices were, but nothing's changed since, in fact it's got worse.

 

[TheManWithNoName]

I thought it was just me that was sick of seeing this “Dave” and his bland jade. I swear I burst out laughing one night when I saw one of the carvings that looked like a cooked prawn!

They've tried flogging Serpentine, Maw-Sit-Sit and Quartzite as Jade - so it wouldn't surprise me if they've moved onto flogging cooked Prawns as Jade.

 

[TheManWithNoName]

Hell's bells, it was a ridiculous price for a start price, let alone a final price. I remember seeing comments on Trustpilot reviews a few years back about how unrealistic the start prices were, but nothing's changed since, in fact it's got worse.

I don’t really have an issue with start prices (unless they try to claim that the start price reflects an item’s 'worth') - it’s a reverse auction, so they have to start somewhere.

But ridiculous 'final prices' are another matter entirely, and this one took the p**s. I can't see how they can justify that price. I wouldn’t even pay £96 for it - let alone £960!

I’d love to know how many actually sold out of curiosity - not just showing as ‘sold’ within that hour, but genuinely sold, as in the order closed and payment taken after midnight.

 

[historymystery]

I don’t really have an issue with start prices (unless they try to claim that the start price reflects an item’s 'worth') - it’s a reverse auction, so they have to start somewhere.

But ridiculous 'final prices' are another matter entirely, and this one took the p**s. I can't see how they can justify that price. I wouldn’t even pay £96 for it - let alone £960!

I’d love to know how many actually sold out of curiosity - not just showing as ‘sold’ within that hour, but genuinely sold, as in the order closed and payment taken after midnight.

Everyone's view will be different, but I do have an issue with ridiculous start prices. It once again indicates a tendency to treat viewers as though they are stupid - and if the channel are going to simply pluck random start prices out of thin air, what does this say about the channel's ethics and its' attitude towards the viewers? Not a lot, in my view.

This bracelet looked to me to be composed of wafer-thin bits of silver chain with some gemstones in between: not very rare gemstones, either. So how do they decide a start price? Just pluck a figure out of nowhere to start 'somewhere'? Or have they looked on a high-end jewellers' website, seen something that might (or might not) be a true comparison and used that figure? If it's done on such an ad hoc basis, why not go the whole hog and quote £100,000 or £2 million - it would be just as nonsensical?

 

[Marietta]

Everyone's view will be different, but I do have an issue with ridiculous start prices. It once again indicates a tendency to treat viewers as though they are stupid - and if the channel are going to simply pluck random start prices out of thin air, what does this say about the channel's ethics and its' attitude towards the viewers? Not a lot, in my view.

This bracelet looked to me to be composed of wafer-thin bits of silver chain with some gemstones in between: not very rare gemstones, either. So how do they decide a start price? Just pluck a figure out of nowhere to start 'somewhere'? Or have they looked on a high-end jewellers' website, seen something that might (or might not) be a true comparison and used that figure? If it's done on such an ad hoc basis, why not go the whole hog and quote £100,000 or £2 million - it would be just as nonsensical?

I don't believe they expect customers to take the start price seriously. It's a bit of a game, in that the start price bears no resemblance to the final price, & their customers know that! As the MWNN points out, it's the final price that really matters.

 

[FunkyGibbon]

How very unkind you all are. I pity you if you can't say good about someone say nothing at all.

Nice advice. Pity you couldn't follow it yourself.

Feedback is supposedly seen as a boon, otherwise how will companies like Gemporia know what they're doing well, or doing wrong?

Gemporia itself asks viewers and customers to leave feedback and opinions on Feefo. And people can also do just that on Trustpilot. Demanding that people don't give honest opinions because you don't like them isn't being "nice". It's passive-aggressively attempting to shut people down.

Which isn't a very nice thing to do. At all. You may not agree with other people's posts, and that's perfectly fine. Go ahead and present arguments disputing others' stated opinions. Or don't - that's up to you. But you don't get to shut people up because you don't like what they say: after all, this is a selly telly forum, not North Korea.

 

[AndyW]

I don't believe they expect customers to take the start price seriously. It's a bit of a game, in that the start price bears no resemblance to the final price, & their customers know that! As the MWNN points out, it's the final price that really matters.

I agree. It's all a fabrication that is part of the "reverse auction" schtick. This the the wording from the T&C's:

A method & description with so many get-out-of-gaol phrases that shows how meaningless it is.

- "reflective of that month's jewellery": who decides that? TGGC of course.

- "...assess the retail value of each piece.": Safeguard uses the market at a fixed point in time. Meaningless after, probably, Gemporia's period of warranty!

- "...we use the multiplier...": whatever that is.

So, start price is used as part of the live presentation "game" to make you feel as if you're getting a discount. No different to market stall traders of old ("not £5 my dear, no not even £4" etc).

 

[TheManWithNoName]

It also states "valuation" - and we all know that the 'default' valuation is an insurance valuation - which is always much higher than an items 'worth' because it has to take into consideration sourcing a like-for-like stone, and the labour cost of someone to make a one-off copy.

This would not apply to mass produced jewellery that Gemporia are selling with the stones already sourced and set.

So it's nonsense from the very beginning.

 

[rubia]

I agree. It's all a fabrication that is part of the "reverse auction" schtick. This the the wording from the T&C's:
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A method & description with so many get-out-of-gaol phrases that shows how meaningless it is.

- "reflective of that month's jewellery": who decides that? TGGC of course.

- "...assess the retail value of each piece.": Safeguard uses the market at a fixed point in time. Meaningless after, probably, Gemporia's period of warranty!

- "...we use the multiplier...": whatever that is.

So, start price is used as part of the live presentation "game" to make you feel as if you're getting a discount. No different to market stall traders of old ("not £5 my dear, no not even £4" etc).

I think the market traders of old had more priciples.