I think this is very impressive

[stratobuddy]

I'm very impressed with this (even though I don't need it) as it is so well thought out and satisfies my gadget craving.

ATTO Compact Mobility Scooter with Accessories - QVC UK

ATTO Compact Mobility Scooter with Accessories order online at QVCUK.com

www.qvcuk.com

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

I'm very impressed with this (even though I don't need it) as it is so well thought out and satisfies my gadget craving.

ATTO Compact Mobility Scooter with Accessories - QVC UK

ATTO Compact Mobility Scooter with Accessories order online at QVCUK.com

www.qvcuk.com

i was watching it live (as it was the first time on air this morning) & thought now thats a decent idea so much thought & effort gone into it & it looks so simple

 

[stratobuddy]

What QVC didn't bother to tell you is that if you have a disability that needs it, you don't have to pay VAT, which makes it about 20% cheaper.

It's available in lots of places, the Q price is not bad IF you have to pay VAT, all the other sellers also tell you how much it is without VAT. But why would anyone want one if they didn't need it?

 

[SisterBliss]

What QVC didn't bother to tell you is that if you have a disability that needs it, you don't have to pay VAT, which makes it about 20% cheaper.

It's available in lots of places, the Q price is not bad IF you have to pay VAT, all the other sellers also tell you how much it is without VAT. But why would anyone want one if they didn't need it?

Lazy?

 

[stratobuddy]

But I wonder if you could buy it without VAT?

On the other hand, their website would never cope with that!

What a shambles.

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

But I wonder if you could buy it without VAT?

On the other hand, their website would never cope with that!

What a shambles.

i know people who buy from Q as a business & get the vat back so

 

[Dream Girl]

Yes sellers say if you have a disability when you purchase to confirm it and you don’t pay the VAT not that you claim it back like with a business purchase

 

[SUPERCOOLWILLOW]

Yes sellers say if you have a disability when you purchase to confirm it and you don’t pay the VAT not that you claim it back like with a business purchase

yes but its the same pricipal is what i was going on

 

[stratobuddy]

I've been doing some research, you have to self-declare to the HMRC when you purchase.

Firstly from Gov.uk - - -
Goods you can buy VAT-free

This section has information on the goods you can buy VAT-free because of your disability including:

• medical and surgical appliances
• invalid wheelchairs and mobility scooters
• equipment to aid the hard of hearing, and low vision aids
• specialist beds, chair and stair lifts, rise and recline chairs and other lifting equipment and sanitary devices
• goods that have been designed solely for disabled people
• computer equipment
• emergency alarm call systems
• boats
• parts and accessories

BOATS??????

 

[Dream Girl]

yes but its the same pricipal is what i was going on

I understand what you are saying but you refer to purchases that are being bought for business usage that can be anything and is left to be put through a business account.
An item that is considered VAT free, the supplier doesn’t charge the VAT, it’s not paid and claimed back.

I know personally due to mastectomy product purchases and I recently bought a riser chair for my mother, which she was able to have it VAT free.

 

[alter ego]

Ah, Strato - thanks for showing us this as it's opened up some info that people may not have known about.

I don't have a scooter but will need one sooner rather than later so your posting this was useful. So thanks for that. But... I hope you don't think I'm being 'iffy' or offensive because I'm not. I'm just a bit superstitious after something I didn't really wish for (but idly did one day IYKWIM) happened, but be careful what you wish for.

It's the same when people tell me I'm 'lucky' to have a Blue Badge. I'd give anything to be able to walk again without falling over my own feet or using crutches or relying on an electrical stimulator that lifts my leg for me (though it's a pain in the arse to wear and the electrodes damage my skin, not to mention it's painful as I have to turn it higher the more fatigued I get). I still wouldn't be without that piece of kit. I think the gadget geek in you would find that very interesting, Strato, as it IS an amazing thing.

I'm so glad the VAT back thing has come up, though. I was aware of it and have used it but I know lots of eligible people won't be so it's good to get the word around.

Sorry if I've offended anyone. I'm on a downer today and my words aren't coming across as I would like.

 

[Pandora]

I'm sure nobody would be offended by your post Alter. Maybe you might be able to answer a question for me which I've often wondered about. I have a Blue Badge as I need a wheelchair for any distance, use crutches around the house mostly but can do a few steps on a good day, wheelchair on worst days. Does this mean automatically mean that I am registered as disabled and can buy aids that will help me VAT free or do I need to apply for something from my surgery first.
We all have the downer days so let's hope tomorrow is a better one!
Take care, Pandora

 

[Akimbo]

I understand what you are saying but you refer to purchases that are being bought for business usage that can be anything and is left to be put through a business account.
An item that is considered VAT free, the supplier doesn’t charge the VAT, it’s not paid and claimed back.

I know personally due to mastectomy product purchases and I recently bought a riser chair for my mother, which she was able to have it VAT free.

How does the supplier know not to charge VAT to a particular group of customers? Like someone buying a wheel chair but for a Jackass type stunt. Or are they like Jaffa Cakes, VAT free? Is it feasible for a QVC purchaser to ask for a VAT receipt and claim it back?

I hear your "BOATS" Strato and echo it.... BOATS?

 

[alter ego]

I'm sure nobody would be offended by your post Alter. Maybe you might be able to answer a question for me which I've often wondered about. I have a Blue Badge as I need a wheelchair for any distance, use crutches around the house mostly but can do a few steps on a good day, wheelchair on worst days. Does this mean automatically mean that I am registered as disabled and can buy aids that will help me VAT free or do I need to apply for something from my surgery first.
We all have the downer days so let's hope tomorrow is a better one!
Take care, Pandora

If you are buying something that qualifies for the VAT relief you just need to tell the retailer that you have a long-term illness or disability. They'll give you a form to sign or you can send in a form to HMRC asking for a refund on the VAT you've paid.

Some Tempur products have VAT relief eligibility and George mastectomy bras are VAT free. There are lots of others but I can't remember offhand.

I don't think you'll get the relief on a yacht like that scumbag, Philip Green's, but he probably didn't pay it either!

 

[stratobuddy]

Re various posts above, if you buy something from a "disability shop" (for want of a better word) they will give you a form to fill in, then they take off the VAT (you CAN'T claim it back later except in certain circumstances).

You DON'T have to be registered disabled, you declare it yourself on the form.

And it applies to chairs that help you to get up, hospital-type beds, pressure relief cushions, and loads of other items you may not think of.

And yes, a BOAT! You can buy a boat VAT free if it is adapted for your disability.

 

[shopperholic]

I didn’t see the one on QVC but I’ve seen folding mobility scooters for........wait for it.......£1000 less than QVCs.......shock!.

Always shop around first Strato, you know the rules. ❤

 

[stratobuddy]

Don't forget that there are various BENEFITS available, which have no stigma attached to them. In fact, the government wants you to have them if you are eligible.

I used to be an expert when I worked for the CAB, but I'm not any more, nor up to date, so I will only talk in generalities.

The first is PENSION CREDIT. This is for pensioners on a low income, and with savings below a certain threshold.

The details are here:

Pension Credit

Pension Credit is extra money for pensioners to bring your weekly income up to a minimum amount - what you'll get, apply, eligibility.

www.gov.uk

As well as giving you about £14 per week extra (for a single person, more for a couple), it has lots of valuable fringe benefits such as free dental care, subsidised specs, and a free TV licence if over 75.

If you meet the criteria, you get it, "simples".

A bit more complicated are the benefits for disabilities, namely DLA (Disability Living Allowance) if below pension age, and AA (Attendance Allowance) if above pension age.

These have long complicated forms, with lots of questions that can be misinterpreted when you fill it in. And whether or not you get it is judged by a non-medical person on the basis of your answers.

I once helped someone to appeal whose DLA claim was turned down. It was obvious she had great difficulty walking. When I went through the form she'd filled in, one of the questions was "Do you have any difficulty going up and down stairs at home" to which she'd replied NO.

When I asked her about this, she explained that she lived in a bungalow and therefore had no difficulty going up and down stairs at home!

So I suggest getting help from the CAB, Age Concern, or various other disability organisations for these benefits. It is much easier to get the benefit in the first instance then to appeal it afterwards. And don't hold anything back in your answers out of pride, for example., say it like it is.

 

[stratobuddy]

It seems that DLA has been replaced by PIP (Personal Independence Allowance).

I warned you I was not up to date.

So look up PIP, not DLA (unless you are under 16, when you can still apply for it).

 

[Pandora]

If you are buying something that qualifies for the VAT relief you just need to tell the retailer that you have a long-term illness or disability. They'll give you a form to sign or you can send in a form to HMRC asking for a refund on the VAT you've paid.

Some Tempur products have VAT relief eligibility and George mastectomy bras are VAT free. There are lots of others but I can't remember offhand.

I don't think you'll get the relief on a yacht like that scumbag, Philip Green's, but he probably didn't pay it either!

Thank you Alter for the reply. Useful info from you and Strato.

 

[Sazza]

yes but its the same pricipal is what i was going on

It is actually not, the way a business gets VAT rebate is nothing like how someone with a disability purchases something like this that is exempt from VAT for them.