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This past week or so I noticed Gem Collector selling more of the items that can be bought from a Chinese Website. Saying these were carved by their people in Jaipur. They had an amber buddha pendant @ £349.99 that was knocked down to £99.99. Seen online @ £7.99.Things must be getting bad. Surely the presenters know the game, so how can they be so dishonest knowing they're conning customers
 

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This past week or so I noticed Gem Collector selling more of the items that can be bought from a Chinese Website. Saying these were carved by their people in Jaipur. They had an amber buddha pendant @ £349.99 that was knocked down to £99.99. Seen online @ £7.99.Things must be getting bad. Surely the presenters know the game, so how can they be so dishonest knowing they're conning customers
Anything for a week's wages, it seems!
 
This past week or so I noticed Gem Collector selling more of the items that can be bought from a Chinese Website. Saying these were carved by their people in Jaipur. They had an amber buddha pendant @ £349.99 that was knocked down to £99.99. Seen online @ £7.99.Things must be getting bad. Surely the presenters know the game, so how can they be so dishonest knowing they're conning customers
The Aliexpress is a fake.
 
The Aliexpress is a fake.
Totally. Obviously not the same thing at all.

Would even suggest it's not really a fake either - there being no obvious intention to deceive. It's under £10, with further discounts available for Wholesale volume purchases but the biggest giveaway is the product description, which is just a collection of words intended to be caught by a search engine, none of which include "Burmese", "Burma" or "Burmite".

Once you strip out all the obvious fakes or suspect offerings, very similar examples of the other amber pendant with hot/laser internal carving, shown on another thread, are available cheaper elsewhere from seemingly legitimate outlets - but not at this starkly different level of discount to the Gemporia price.

Whatever we might think about TGGC, its pricing and its live presentation market comparisons, this isn't a fair example at all.
 
Whatever we might think about TGGC, its pricing and its live presentation market comparisons, this isn't a fair example at all.
Completely agree.

I'm not sure why a few repeatedly say "you can get identical products on Temu, eBay or AliExpress" when they're clearly going to be either fake or lab-created.

If we're going to criticise Gemporia, we should do so using legitimate comparisons. Otherwise, we undermine any efforts to hold them to account and risk looking hypocritical by engaging in the very kind of dubious comparisons we often criticise Gemporia for.
 
Completely agree.

I'm not sure why a few repeatedly say "you can get identical products on Temu, eBay or AliExpress" when they're clearly going to be either fake or lab-created.

If we're going to criticise Gemporia, we should do so using legitimate comparisons. Otherwise, we undermine any efforts to hold them to account and risk looking hypocritical by engaging in the very kind of dubious comparisons we often criticise Gemporia for.
So you're 100% convinced that what Gemporia or GC sell is the real thing. You say a lot about fake and false presenters and like pulling them apart but you believe what they sell is not from these cheap producers in China.
If they didn't want their products to seem dodgy why copy designs from cheap Chinese producers. I've been in business long enjoy to know if you want your items to stand out then don't copy others
 
So you're 100% convinced that what Gemporia or GC sell is the real thing. You say a lot about fake and false presenters and like pulling them apart but you believe what they sell is not from these cheap producers in China.
If they didn't want their products to seem dodgy why copy designs from cheap Chinese producers. I've been in business long enjoy to know if you want your items to stand out then don't copy others
That's not what I said, is it? I've often questioned the legitimacy of Troth's Jadeite because the Chinese certificates he shows on screen aren't worth the paper they're written on (particularly the 'certificates' for so-called 'Quartzite-Jade').

However, items like their Amber are genuine - though the treatments listed on the certificates are occasionally incorrect. Still, the stones themselves are authentic. We also know that Gemporia sources their Amber from Mariusz Gielo, who is well-known and respected in the industry (The NAJ and GIA have articles about Mariusz on their websites).

Even if they weren’t genuine, there are legal protections in place. If something you bought turns out to be different from what was advertised, you have the right to take legal action.

That said, just from looking at the photo you posted, it's clear the Amber is fake - most likely resin. In fact, the description doesn’t even claim it is Amber; it just throws in a bunch of random keywords (including 'pearl').

Genuine Amber is not perfectly clear - it contains air bubbles and sometimes inclusions, such as insects. The piece in your post has no inclusions or bubbles whatsoever.

Amber, Obsidian, and Jade are among the easiest and most commonly lab-created stones.

Finally, if you buy something from a Chinese seller and it turns out to be fake, good luck trying to sue them.
 

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