As we all know many persevered read this board, there is a real difference between criticising someone's presenting and being so personal, I won't give my opinion of people who do this, but I have been here long enough to remember some of the unpleasant things that were said about Ali Keenan and her appearance before her diagnosis, I said the same then, I can tale a joke but don't see the need to publically make such nasty comments about peoples' appearance, don't you people have friends with whom you can privately share your opinions abd not publically humiliate people?