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Good lord! I recorded this and got about 10 minutes in this morning before I had to switch off! Apart from mispronouncing half the product names, one of the first questions she asked the guest was about their '140 years of heritage of detail'. WTF is that supposed to mean??! Then when previewing every single product she mentioned the THOUSANDS of ingreeeejunts they have available to them (like this is something new?!) and their 'attention to detail' when formulating products. Clearly 'attention to detail' is going to be the Shiseido catchphrase but she said it about 9 times in her intro alone so already it's meaningless.

I must also mention the 'outfit' in the Elemis anniversary promos - flowing dress, BAGGY trousers underneath and massive chunky heels....explosion in a charity shop comes to mind. Sweet lord, someone take her aside...
 
I only managed to watch the first 15 mins (need to prepare myself mentally to watch the remainder!) I've never heard so much nonsense in one go! So is she saying that no other brand that QVC stock pay any attention to detail and don't have their own chemists/development team etc etc.....I don't think so.
Rebecca the guest hardly got a word in as usual while AY proves to us that she knows more than the expert! We don't get to hear about the literal actual product at all, just the constant how prestige it is, high end, millions of ingreejundts, pharmaceuticals etc.

As for the Elemis promo's, totally agree, her dress sense is getting more and more bizarre!! Just have to add to that, that when she was asking the spa staff questions she is nodding her head in agreement 3 or 4 times before they have even answered the question! She drives me to drink!!........:coffee:
 
With the exception of L'Occitane, and the possible exception of A'kin, none of the beauty lines on QVC are cruelty-free. Even Liz Earle can't be classed as truly cruelty-free any more - as soon as she put money ahead of ethics and morality and sold out "Anita Roddick" style to Avon, those of us who care about such things stopped buying LE. The LE products themselves may not involve cruelty, but Avon is most certainly not a cruelty-free brand, and if you buy LE you're putting money into the coffers of Avon. Liz Earle certainly became a very rich Avon lady by selling out the animals - along with those of us who bought her products and made them into the brand they became because we chose to buy cruelty-free.
 
Wouldn't touch this brand - it's tested on animals!

Is it really? I didn't know that.



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OMG...............NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo i love love love this brand & have to send off for it...... never looked into the testing side.......hey ho !!!!!!! goodness .thank you
 
I contacted QVC last time the brand was on and took ages for replies. They investigated and said Shisedio did not animal test. But that is not to say they don't do what others do and get new ingredients tested on their behalf. Its all the new wonder products everyone goes nuts for new ingredients are tested as the norm. Shiseido own BE as well.

But then going back in time every brand has animal tested at some point.
 
I contacted QVC last time the brand was on and took ages for replies. They investigated and said Shisedio did not animal test. But that is not to say they don't do what others do and get new ingredients tested on their behalf. Its all the new wonder products everyone goes nuts for new ingredients are tested as the norm. Shiseido own BE as well.

But then going back in time every brand has animal tested at some point.

Many, many companies hide behind the "we don't test our products on animals" statement. What they don't add is that this is only the case because European law now prohibits them from testing the completed products on animals, so they use this to pull the wool over their customers' eyes and shout this loudly whenever someone mentions animal testing. The fact is, though, that not testing the finished product doesn't mean anything at all in the cruelty-free stakes, because most of them use ingredients that have been - and are still being - tested on animals. Most of them use animal-derived ingredients too.

The only way for a company not currently cruelty-free to go truly cruelty-free is to implement a fixed cut-off date. This means that they draw a line on animal testing and commit to not using any ingredient which has been tested on animals since a specific date. They then have their suppliers sign legal agreements committing to not providing any ingredients which have been animal tested since that date. Due to customer demand this is what Marks & Spencer have now done. You can now buy their products knowing that they will never use any new ingredient which has been animal tested, and none of their ingredients will have been animal tested since their cut off date. This is what Liz Earle did.

Some companies say they have a "rolling 5 year cut-off date", meaning they won't use any ingredient which has been animal tested in the past 5 years. This is a complete con because, as they're well aware, it takes at least 5 years for any new "wonder" ingredient to be tested and licenced - so their rolling cut-off date doesn't stop them using any new ingredient that they know has been animal tested. In 5 years time they'll be using ingredients which are being tested on animals in laboratories today. This is just a cynical ploy to fool us into thinking their products are cruelty-free.

The most cynical companies are those like Avon, who loudly put out statements saying that they don't test their products on animals and that they never commission animal testing on any of their ingredients. What they don't say is that they happily use all the ingredients that they know have already been animal tested by somebody else. They're actually saying "we don't abuse animals in our own laboratories, but we support those who do it in theirs" - and they hope that we're all too stupid to understand what they're saying.

If a company the size of Marks & Spencer can do what it takes to become cruelty-free any company could, they just don't care enough to do it. The really sad thing is that if all the majors took the decision to do it, animal testing of cosmetic ingredients could become a thing of the past pretty quickly. Unfortunately the greed of these companies is so great that vivisection is a price they're more than willing to pay. The animals can't stop them, and animals are cheap.

If you want to know whose products are really cruelty-free, sites such as Naturewatch (who publish a cruelty-free shopping guide covering everything, not just cosmetics), the BUAV and The Ethical Consumer give a lot of information. If a product has the BUAV bunny logo on it you're safe - but make sure it's the BUAV bunny because some companies put a rabbit on the bottle which means nothing, in the hope that you'll think it means the product is cruelty-free when it isn't.

The BUAV website has a massive amount of information on animal testing for anyone who wants to learn more.

I'm sorry if I sound preachy, I don't mean to, it's just that I care so much about this and most people have no real idea of the cruelty that's perpetrated by the cosmetics industry. There are literally millions of animal suffering and dying in laboratories at this moment just to provide a new lipstick or eyeshadow colour, or a new texture of mascara - and the cosmetic companies will use every tactic they can think of for you not to know about it, or not to care.

What makes me really mad is that QVC, with it's enormous buying power, could make a massive difference. If QVC on both sides of the Atlantic put pressure on the companies to stop animal testing they would have to listen - if only for economic reasons. And more of us would buy cosmetics from QVC so they'd benefit too.

An animal dies every 6 seconds in a British laboratory, and approximately 80% of all experiments are done without any form of anaesthetic. Can anybody really believe that this is ok in this age of alternatives?
 
I know Smashbox are approved by Peta(strangely they can have a totally different idea what is cruelty free), different countries perhaps.

By the way can I recommend Marks and Spencer neck cream at £12.
 
I know Smashbox are approved by Peta(strangely they can have a totally different idea what is cruelty free), different countries perhaps.

Peta is a strange organisation altogether in my opinion. I find it hard to take seriously a group that tells me that I shouldn't be allowed to have cats or dogs living with me, because it's cruel and demeaning for the animal, but that then tells me it's fine to use products from companies like Avon, when we know that they're not cruelty-free. They veer from extreme on some issues to patheticly inadequate on others. Their stance on what constitutes cruelty-free in the cosmetics world is unbelievably inadequate.

Peta's criterion for labelling a company cruelty-free is simply that the company has provided a statement verifying that they do not conduct or commission any animal tests on ingredients, formulations, or finished products and that they pledge not to do so in the future. That company can then pack its products with ingredients that have been tested by or for somebody else, while retaining Peta's cruelty-free rating.

Peta doesn't ask for any commitment at all that a company won't use ingredients derived from or tested on animals by someone else which, quite frankly, is ludicrous when we're talking about what are or aren't cruelty-free products. It makes no difference to the animal whether it's dying for an ingredient or a finished product.

Unfortunately many (it might even be correct to say most) of the companies on Peta's list are far from cruelty-free, which is why many animal welfare groups don't take Peta seriously.
 

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