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Cheeky beggars have put the collagen drink up in price now it's on air. Had one in my basket 5 minutes ago that I added tonight was thinking of giving it a go, my wife takes the powder , Ā£28.50 with an extra 10 percent off on top of that, and free delivery, clicked back in and its Ā£29.99 now...its gone up by about Ā£4 just as its gone on air .

So much for Mason brokering these amazing deals!:p:LOL:
 
Muttley said:
You get reports in newspapers about how influencers find clothing in Poundland that are similar to Zara. However the quality is unlikely to be comparable, it's likely to be a cheap copy.
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Most people don't realise what fast fashion or cheap clothing is actually doing to the environment.

earth.org

Fast Fashion: Its Detrimental Effect on the Environment

Fast fashion has a massive environmental impact, it is the second-biggest consumer of water and is responsible for nearly 10% of global carbon emissions.
earth.org earth.org

www.nationalgeographic.com

Chile's Atacama Desert has become a fast fashion dumping ground

Clothing from many of the worldā€™s favorite brands lies in discarded heaps in Chileā€™s Atacama Desert. How it got there tells the story of modern fast fashion.
www.nationalgeographic.com www.nationalgeographic.com

 
1) Can I get a booster drink to improve the output from IW?

2) They could save money to pass on as better pricing by recording each presenter with an item for 5 minutes and just loop that for sixty minutes.

Couple of hours per presenter per week, bosh loadsamoney saved.

3) IdealWorld - The Home of Cheezy Elevator Muzak.
 
Lovely to see Jeremy dressed and scrubbed up for the occasion and back on air againā€¦

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SiRich said:
Cheeky beggars have put the collagen drink up in price now it's on air. Had one in my basket 5 minutes ago that I added tonight was thinking of giving it a go, my wife takes the powder , Ā£28.50 with an extra 10 percent off on top of that, and free delivery, clicked back in and its Ā£29.99 now...its gone up by about Ā£4 just as its gone on air .

So much for Mason brokering these amazing deals!:p:LOL:
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You do realise ingesting collagen doesn't really do anything, right? You're just making a joke, aren't you?

Cos your stomach breaks preformed collagen back down into amino acids - the exact same amino acids you already get from protein (animal or plant they're literally identical, think of them as letters in an alphabet). A bit of digestive magic happens and eventually they end up in the liver which uses the amino acid letters to make words (chains) for whatever the body needs - it needs a lot, and I mean a lot, gang.

Your body does not and cannot know which amino acids came from what. Your body will NOT go "ooh, hold on liver, those amino acids came from the Numi collagen drink so these are reserved for not only plumping up the skin, right, not only the aches and pains, okay, so don't use them for the thousands of other basic bodily functions that help keep me alive."

Necking a colourful carton of collagen drink (or popping supplements) makes people feel better, but, like, it's literally no different to eating food.

And the beauty studies about collagen supplements which show /scant/ benefits at best could as easily be explained by increased hydration (skin, joints, brain all NEED water, and few of us drink enough: an extra glass of water a day from taking a collagen pill means more hydrated, so people see/feel results but assume it's the pill and overlook the water).

If you're already eating a freak-ton of protein a day, adding more MAY help make more collagen PROVIDING you have excess aminos left over from everything else, you're healthy, and eating a balanced diet (collagen production requires other things to happen).

It is significantly cheaper to a) just eat protein rich food or if you really don't want to gain weight b) use amino acid powders body builders use. You can get a whacking great tub for about Ā£8 and mix a spoonful with water and drink it (ideally with ample vitamin C over the course of the day if you're aiming to facilitate collagen as it can't be made without vitamin C which is a water soluble vitamin so it needs replacing every day as we pee it out).

But whatever the carton may claim, you cannot choose or control what happens to the amino acids in the "collagen pills" once your stomach has broken them down. Biology doesn't work like thatā€¦ Hence Pedro's need to visit patio doorsā€¦
 
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Herring said:
You do realise ingesting collagen doesn't really do anything, right? You're just making a joke, aren't you?

Cos your stomach breaks preformed collagen back down into amino acids - the exact same amino acids you already get from protein (animal or plant they're literally identical, think of them as letters in an alphabet). A bit of digestive magic happens and eventually they end up in the liver which uses the amino acid letters to make words (chains) for whatever the body needs - it needs a lot, and I mean a lot, gang.

Your body does not and cannot know which amino acids came from what. Your body will NOT go "ooh, hold on liver, those amino acids came from the Numi collagen drink so these are reserved for not only plumping up the skin, right, not only the aches and pains, okay, so don't use them for the thousands of other basic bodily functions that help keep me alive."

Necking a colourful carton of collagen drink (or popping supplements) makes people feel better, but, like, it's literally no different to eating food.

And the beauty studies about collagen supplements which show /scant/ benefits at best could as easily be explained by increased hydration (skin, joints, brain all NEED water, and few of us drink enough: an extra glass of water a day from taking a collagen pill means more hydrated, so people see/feel results but assume it's the pill and overlook the water).

If you're already eating a freak-ton of protein a day, adding more MAY help make more collagen PROVIDING you have excess aminos left over from everything else, you're healthy, and eating a balanced diet (collagen production requires other things to happen).

It is significantly cheaper to a) just eat protein rich food or if you really don't want to gain weight b) use amino acid powders body builders use. You can get a whacking great tub for about Ā£8 and mix a spoonful with water and drink it (ideally with ample vitamin C over the course of the day if you're aiming to facilitate collagen as it can't be made without vitamin C which is a water soluble vitamin so it needs replacing every day as we pee it out).

But whatever the carton may claim, you cannot choose or control what happens to the amino acids in the "collagen pills" once your stomach has broken them down. Biology doesn't work like thatā€¦ Hence Pedro's need to visit patio doorsā€¦
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I was serious, i have taken a few tablet supplements regularly for years, vit d, collagen (about 18 months) , onega3, glucosamine (a mate swears by it) , ginseng, all with food as otherwise it is less likely to be digested. Placebo effect, quite possibly but not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Ā£40 max for a years supply of most. Of course these shot things are significantly more Ā£.

The reviews for these collagen all look legit (eg Amazon not just these) on perceptions of skin and hair benefits mostly, i would obviously not trust Simon or his crap, of course it has entered my mind are they placebo effect, it is clearly no miracle any ageing cure, but i was interested in seeing for myself, not expecting miracles but to see if i perceive any noticeable difference, although it has to be said my skin is already as soft as a babys bum and well, my hair loss mirrors Mike Masons so would fit firmly into the lost cause category!

Thankyou Herring, interestingl read, and you seem to know your stuff there.
 
Wanderer said:
To relieve the boredom, does anyone remember.....

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Yes. Remember the reviews that they did juice quickly but were absolute *******s to clean. The cost of the sheer volume of fruit needed to make a glass of juice was astronomical. Cheaper to buy good quality fruit juice from the supermarket.
No I didnā€™t buy one as Iā€™d rather just eat the fruit.
 
SiRich said:
I was serious, i have taken a few tablet supplements regularly for years, vit d, collagen (about 18 months) , onega3, glucosamine (a mate swears by it) , ginseng, all with food as otherwise it is less likely to be digested. Placebo effect, quite possibly but not expensive in the grand scheme of things. Ā£40 max for a years supply of most. Of course these shot things are significantly more Ā£.

The reviews for these collagen all look legit (eg Amazon not just these) on perceptions of skin and hair benefits mostly, i would obviously not trust Simon or his crap, of course it has entered my mind are they placebo effect, it is clearly no miracle any ageing cure, but i was interested in seeing for myself, not expecting miracles but to see if i perceive any noticeable difference, although it has to be said my skin is already as soft as a babys bum and well, my hair loss mirrors Mike Masons so would fit firmly into the lost cause category!

Thankyou Herring, interestingl read, and you seem to know your stuff there.
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I take cod liver oil capsules as they do seem to ease my joints. Nit sure if they actually do or itā€™s just my mind thinks they do. I think I probably spend about Ā£25 a year for them.
 

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