Lyndsay ...

historymystery said:

So it seems this is an example of something smacking of deviousness going way back. I can remember when the original presenters were still at Gemporia, and it used to be a regular thing that they, and Steve, would talk on air about studying for the GIA exam and how they had to keep their knowledge up to date, were regularly tested on their knowledge, etc. etc. And to be fair the original presenters were 100% more knowledgeable than today's cohort. I'm wondering, then, if the format of the qualification has changed over the years and it's been 'dumbed down' somewhat? Or is it that the original presenters took their job a lot more seriously and made it their business to find out much more factual information (with the emphasis on the word 'factual', a word that some presenters seem unfamiliar with)?

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I believe they have to have 'refresher' exams each year - and I don't think the qualification has changed either.

I suspect the root of the problem is that the likes of Scott Worsfold, Rae Carpenter, etc were well paid and really enjoyed their job. They perhaps chose to learn more outside the scope of the GIA AJP exam by their own choice.

Take Alex on Gem Collector for example - he sold a lot of stones that are not covered in the GIA AJP exam. Although he was honest when he wasn't knowledgeable on one of the VERY rare minerals, he still knew enough about stones like Axinite, Bastnaesite, Zincite, etc to be able to give a VERY detailed explanation.

That used to be the case on Gems TV years ago with the good old presenters that have no left. They really knew their stuff.

The presenters these days don't really seem to know a great deal other than 'Its rarer than rare', "10,000 times rarer than a Diamond", "It has the same crystal structure as a diamond", etc.

I can't imagine the likes of Jess Foley and Lindsey Carr going 'above and beyond'. I suspect they're paid a lot less than some of the older presenters too. I should certainly think so anyway - if someone like Jess Foley gets paid a similar wage to what Scott Worsfold or Rae Carpenter used to earn, then something is radically wrong in the world.

Gems TV always did have a couple of naff presenters - but the majority were really good and knowledgeable.

These days, they have mainly naff presenters with the occasional half-decent one. The most knowledgeable are Adina and Angeline - but even they have their flaws. Adina has started being more misleading than she used to, and I've reported her twice for dodgy claims (both resulting in an ASA warning) - and Angeline can be a bit brash. Kate McCarthy is also fairly good in fairness to her.

The rest? I'd give them their P45's tomorrow. Jess and Lindsey being first in line.

historymystery said:

Or is it that the original presenters took their job a lot more seriously and made it their business to find out much more factual information

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If I had to guess, I'd say back then they had a reputation to either build or protect, so were more 'with it' than today, and today they are 'living' off and relying on that now old reputation.

We just had a President Biden moment!

LC reading this loooong article out loud but, when she got to "known locally as...", you could almost hear her biological computer fan spinning fast and then glitching. She literally skipped over the word "Natonya" with an unintelligible mumble. Not even an attempt at the word (not particularly frightening, in my opinion, compared to other African names).



On the one hand, it may very well be down to a poor junior school education or she has some form of dyslexia but, on the other hand you'd might assume that she'd read this through beforehand

AndyW said:

We just had a President Biden moment!

LC reading this loooong article out loud but, when she got to "known locally as...", you could almost hear her biological computer fan spinning fast and then glitching. She literally skipped over the word "Natonya" with an unintelligible mumble. Not even an attempt at the word (not particularly frightening, in my opinion, compared to other African names).

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On the one hand, it may very well be down to a poor junior school education or she has some form of dyslexia but, on the other hand you'd might assume that she'd read this through beforehand

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Perhaps she needs glasses. I think there was another time in the VERY recent past, that she struggled to see / read the word she was reading.

Ant7t said:

Perhaps she needs glasses.

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She trips up with too many varying things for it to be down to being dyslexic or requiring glasses.

Alex McKay and Steve Bennett are dyslexic, but both of them are intelligent.

I just think she was towards the back of the queue when god was handing out brains (and he ran out of stock shortly before reaching her).

Lindsey flogging a leather authenticity certificate holder for £14.99.

"You could easily pay over £100 for something like this elsewhere".

No, YOU might Lindsey - but anyone with at least half a working brain cell would 'easily' tell the shopkeeper where to stick it, and then promptly walk out of the shop.

TheManWithNoName said:

Lindsey flogging a leather authenticity certificate holder for £14.99.

"You could easily pay over £100 for something like this elsewhere".

No, YOU might Lindsey - but anyone with at least half a working brain cell would 'easily' tell the shopkeeper where to stick it, and then promptly walk out of the shop.

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I find her strangely child-like actually and very irritating; part of this is due to the fact that she seems to say the first word(s) that come into her head, part of it is her voice and partly that she doesn't actually seem to present the show, it's just a jumbled-up word salad. There seems to be no structure or planning to the hours and no real information, just superlatives all the time - 'most wonderful', 'the largest stone', etc. etc. Or, as she might say, just suppositories.... I know the others can be bad, but she seems particularly disorganized and detached, as though someone's said 'oh, you do the next couple of hours' and pushed her in front of the camera. That's how it always seems to me when I see her on there.

Troff is flogging Pink Diaspore and Lyndsey just can’t seem to pronounce it correctly. She’s called it diAspore and diazapore which she’s said multiple times now. The utter stupidity of this woman is breathtaking tbf.She’s still saying it minutes later and nobody has corrected her.

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Troff is flogging Pink Diaspore and Lyndsey just can’t seem to pronounce it correctly. She’s called it diAspore and diazapore which she’s said multiple times now. The utter stupidity of this woman is breathtaking tbf.She’s still saying it minutes later and nobody has corrected her.

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Perhaps they employ her for their amusement - how many times can she get things wrong. There's probably a book being run.

She’ll be calling it diazepam next

Battiola73 said:

She’ll be calling it diazepam next

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Who's she?

Ostrichkeeper said:

Troff is flogging Pink Diaspore and Lyndsey just can’t seem to pronounce it correctly. She’s called it diAspore and diazapore which she’s said multiple times now. The utter stupidity of this woman is breathtaking tbf.She’s still saying it minutes later and nobody has corrected her.

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Lindsey makes Peter Simon look competent and professional.

Lindsey Carr mesmerised and shocked at a stone that she called 'incredibly rare' earlier today.

Golden Rutile Quartz..................

Lindsey Carr was flogging a gold tone item yesterday.

She did the usual price comparisons against Monica Vinader (yet again, failing to disclose that MV offer a 5 year guarantee with their jewellery - whereas Gemporia offer a 6 month warranty.......).

She then did another price comparison - against a GOLD item. The price comparison graphics even clearly stated that it was gold - but Lindsey Carr says "and look at this one - £45 for gold over silver. We're at less than £10".

But it wasn't gold over silver Linds. It was gold.........

Deliberate misleading, or Lindsey Carr being as thick as usual?

Either way, reported to the ASA so that they can issue their 765th 'final warning'.........

Watching the beloved Jess and Co, I popped back on, 'here', not TV to see them still selling the same item nearly an hour and a half in. But I digress. In Lindsey's show with Toby, they were raving about getting a Bennett Vault Umberlite suite for under £50. Looked, it still has all 3 pieces as available. Works out 1p under £50 (that's not including the postage, obviously). BV 'stuff' is supposed to be wonderful, yet they can't even sell all items for that low a price?

Just, as I amend this two items have sold out. Still, a long time waiting.

TheManWithNoName said:

Lindsey Carr was flogging a gold tone item yesterday.

She did the usual price comparisons against Monica Vinader (yet again, failing to disclose that MV offer a 5 year guarantee with their jewellery - whereas Gemporia offer a 6 month warranty.......).

She then did another price comparison - against a GOLD item. The price comparison graphics even clearly stated that it was gold - but Lindsey Carr says "and look at this one - £45 for gold over silver. We're at less than £10".

But it wasn't gold over silver Linds. It was gold.........

Deliberate misleading, or Lindsey Carr being as thick as usual?

Either way, reported to the ASA so that they can issue their 765th 'final warning'.........

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I really do think she opens her mouth and something random comes out...no idea whatsoever, and it comes across as little preparation done about what she's going to say or how to describe something. She seems incapable of telling you anything factual, it's either incorrect when making a price comparison or it's meaningless superlatives and fake gasps of surprise, usually all these things.

Professionalism and preparation seem to have gone out of the window in about 2010.

she’s on at the moment, sounds as if she’s commentating on the last few furlongs of the Derby, the speed she’s garbling at.

Battiola73 said:

she’s on at the moment, sounds as if she’s commentating on the last few furlongs of the Derby, the speed she’s garbling at.

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She'd probably be better at horse racing commentary that than selly-telly to be honest.

However, I wouldn't send her to commentate on the Derby. She'd turn up in an open top bus, armed with a microphone, and start doing a guide of Derby town centre.........

"...and as they come into the last corner, it's Absolutely in the lead, with GorgeousAmountofGold in second and WhatWeAreExperiencing chasing hard for third. Oh! WhatWeAreExperiencing has thrown it's rider Cheralene. What a shame but now it's neck and neck between GorgeousAmountofGold and Absolutely. And Absolutely, ridden by Jess, takes it at £249.99 to 1 odds on favourite. What a race!

Hold on, Lindsey on GorgeousAmountofGold is asking for a Steward's Enquiry. Looks as if we'll have to wait for the ASA's ruling. What an exciting race.

Over to Dave now, who's in the paddock with HowToOrder and her rider Ellis."

Oh AndyW, you nearly made me pee myself with laughter. I would imagine that Dave T was still in the stalls rabbiting on about Jade. Plus Adina flicking her mane and Angeline tapping her hooves impatiently because no one is buying.

I keep hearing the voice of Michael O’Hehir doing this commentary.