Random musings and general banter.

Battiola73 said:

I understand your stance n this and agree it’s not right. From my perspective Amazon is a godsend . Being disabled and mostly housebound going to the shops is difficult for me. It would cost me around £80- £90 round trip in taxi fares to get to a city shopping centre, plus mobility scooter hire cost. Even then they may not have what I want.

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I tend to agree with you. I use Amazon occasionally.
That's not to say I agree with their business style or tax model.
I think ideally you should support your local businesses where possible, even if it's just part of a chain like Asda or Aldi.
Even better local independent businesses.
But time, prices, travelling, convenience, are factors that have to be taken into account.
By searching on Amazon or Ebay, you can often find something, with probably a vast choice of products at competitive prices.
Their good to look at, sometimes just to see what's out there.

Just out of a run, but the old guy last night, said last stock of Collagen Drink, the afternoon presenter has just shown up again with it

PhaedrusR said:

Thanks.
But how much do you think one of those Nubeo Apollo watches is actually worth paying? £30? £50? £100? More?
Forget quality, just how much would they be reasonably priced at instead of £500?

P.S. depends on your ranking system, quality vs. value, but I think the Genoa range is good value, have paid £10-20 on TJC/auction for sports digital/analogue and automatic cheap watches that keep time and are functional and look ok.

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Although i wouldn't be buying them under any condition, for me personally, i would pay no more than £150-£200, and that's taking into account quality as that's all i can rate it on, the look and functionality does nothing for me, there is nothing special or technical to warrant a higher price, and it's made in a country where the material and labour costs are low. It's a big chunky watch, too big for my wrists so really not functional as a wearable time piece and the look is just not me, if it was i would have been collecting Invicta's watches (pro divers okay though) years ago, they're into similar big, colourful, gawdy, themed watches.

Okay, a watch is a watch, whatever the value/quality is up to the buyer, and if they're happy and like the watch and are happy with the price then that's all that matter, it's all about personal choice.

As for Genoa, then it may be we're looking at this from two different points of view, i'm assuming you're looking at just buying a watch, as a basic watch to tell the time, looks okay and at a good value price that is within the price range you're willing to pay for a watch, me i look for watches that are worth adding to my collection, look, style, size are important but quality of materials, movement and the brand are a high priority, but at a good price value within my price range. Genoa doesn't fit with my collection, it's an affordable low quality watch, yeah it may tell you the time and last a few years, but when something goes wrong it's the bin. Similar quality on Ali is couple of £s max, actually postage from China is more than the cost of producing Genoa watches. If i was just want an everyday cheap tool watch then i would be buying a Casio/G Shock, tough, good looking, functional, real value for money and from an actual watchmaking brand and not from an Indian company who have no horology experience, history or heritage, who've gone to China and ordered cheap as chips, low quality watches, branded the watches with a brand name of a watch brand that doesn't actual exist, to flog on their Selly Telly channels in the UK, USA and Germany.

I could name dozens of affordable watch brands to buy from rather than one of VGL's own brand watches.

Hammy60 said:

Although i wouldn't be buying them under any condition, for me personally, i would pay no more than £150-£200, and that's taking into account quality as that's all i can rate it on, the look and functionality does nothing for me, there is nothing special or technical to warrant a higher price, and it's made in a country where the material and labour costs are low. It's a big chunky watch, too big for my wrists so really not functional as a wearable time piece and the look is just not me, if it was i would have been collecting Invicta's watches (pro divers okay though) years ago, they're into similar big, colourful, gawdy, themed watches.

Okay, a watch is a watch, whatever the value/quality is up to the buyer, and if they're happy and like the watch and are happy with the price then that's all that matter, it's all about personal choice.

As for Genoa, then it may be we're looking at this from two different points of view, i'm assuming you're looking at just buying a watch, as a basic watch to tell the time, looks okay and at a good value price that is within the price range you're willing to pay for a watch, me i look for watches that are worth adding to my collection, look, style, size are important but quality of materials, movement and the brand are a high priority, but at a good price value within my price range. Genoa doesn't fit with my collection, it's an affordable low quality watch, yeah it may tell you the time and last a few years, but when something goes wrong it's the bin. Similar quality on Ali is couple of £s max, actually postage from China is more than the cost of producing Genoa watches. If i was just want an everyday cheap tool watch then i would be buying a Casio/G Shock, tough, good looking, functional, real value for money and from an actual watchmaking brand and not from an Indian company who have no horology experience, history or heritage, who've gone to China and ordered cheap as chips, low quality watches, branded the watches with a brand name of a watch brand that doesn't actual exist, to flog on their Selly Telly channels in the UK, USA and Germany.

I could name dozens of affordable watch brands to buy from rather than one of VGL's own brand watches.

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The guy last night didn’t even have it done up

Ah yes...the faked Mars landing one.

Emiily J said:

The guy last night didn’t even have it done up

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Yeah Peter, he wore it dangling like that for 4 hours with the watch face continually being knocked on the counter top. IW watch shows are a perfect example of how not to handle watches.

Emiily J said:

Just out of a run, but the old guy last night, said last stock of Collagen Drink, the afternoon presenter has just shown up again with it

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That's very, very common on IW.

Everyday/program there is a sell out, last chance claim, yet miraculously items are always available again the next day.

Humble Janice asked specially to have the Humble smellies on his show, why?

Terdicus - Brand New Fragrance Launch this evening at 21:00 hrs. Mason...Now all you wiv filfee minds, yer gits..Terdicus pronounced Terdhieekerusze is a wonderful new Albanian perfume from Tirana. The essence of the Terd... embracing you hole body. Go into the boozer smelling of Terdicus and become surrounded by large unshaven bald-headed geezers asking you what you are wearing and to leave their manor pronto. Terdicus meaning spring in Albania, wiv me, exclusively tonight on Exemplar Planet...

Yiannis is a shifty bugger. I didn't mind him on create and craft, he seemed less desperate and going with the flow.

Unwatchable on IW delivering those endless lame anecdotes to try convince you to buy, whilst pretending to be your best mate

Niwa said:

If you Google Peter Simon you will get he was born November 1962 pretty much the same as me. Where I lived at the time we didn't have any TV because it was all broadcast in a foreign (to us) language. But I don't think many six? year old children would have been allowed to stay up that late to watch something like that. However I don't know what the transmission time of that actual event was?

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it does say 1962 here. Only 62 Crikey I would give that collagen a miss mate

If he was born Peter Thompson, what’s with the Peter Simon

Emiily J said:

If he was born Peter Thompson, what’s with the Peter Simon

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It makes him sound more exotic?

So he could become a household name like Domestos.

Peter V an expert on fragranced candles now.

Who is the overly jolly female announcer on some of their promos?

Emiily J said:

I don’t know much about Watches. I just own a Apple Watch.

But those watches last night, almost seemed a con misleading. With those names on there, and not truthful info.

I only now about the Moon Landings from School but I know more than him

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I remember watching the live broadcast with my Dad. He always said that it was a waste of money as the US just wanted to better the Soviet Union.

I think that a lot of modern technology is a knock on from space exploration. At the time a computer would be housed in a large office space. Today equivalent or better housed in a small phone that fits in your pocket.

Evening folks, been out for a run and ended up in McDonalds.

One item interests me tonight, the Microwave Grill, seems ldeal pardon the pun for Uni Digs

PhaedrusR said:

There are other online / home delivery shops, sites & services!
You don't have to use Amazon!
Etsy, Very, ao.com, ASOS, Robert Dyas, RinkIT, Appliances direct, Asda.com, George, TkMaxx Argos, AliExpress now, Temu, B&Q, etc., etc.!!!

P.S. have you heard of Stuart.com (steward). They pickup your order and home delivery for sites/shops, e.g. from Boots. The shops integrate Stuart into their order systems, saves having to do their own delivery infrastructure. Like a general deliveroo, but for shop purchases, not just groceries or food. Co-op use them in addition to deliveroo/Uber too. They are growing.

And I do use eBay. While they do also avoid some tax via Luxembourg/Eire similar arrangements, they do have UK registered for tax offices, along with PayPal, in SW London. And at least you are buying from people and shops/companies, not from the Amazon warehouse, where much of the stuff is their own stock, not reselling.

Ok, Amzn may be cheaper for some things, but I also boycott Starbucks similarly. The CEO from Innocent succinctly accused Amzn of the brand loan debt offset against UK profits. Starbucks do the same, so make zero UK profit, if you believe that. So no tax.

People power would sort this out within 2 weeks I reckon..

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I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree. My purchases from other retailers depend on cost and delivery times. My repeat prescriptions are delivered free from a local pharmacy.

I don’t frequent Starbucks as I don’t like their coffee or their prices. I buy my coffee beans from a local roaster who delivers free of charge. I reckon I can get around 15 cups of good quality coffee from freshly roasted beans, being the equivalent in cost to 2/3 cups from Starbucks.

galesgal57 said:

His stints in Vegas and the clubs, according to him yesterday.

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Back OFF!!!

I'll have you know Peter S has indeed played Vegas ...

... Vegas, Lancashire, UK

And he HAS played clubs there ...

... OAP bowling clubs