Imagine if they'd put Jill Franks on with them. She'd have been vying with that woman: "No, put the camera on ME!" and would have tried to do her "I simply couldn't LIVE without this" spiel only to have no true examples. I've watched quite a few examples of these Speakmans in action and my regard for them dwindles with each and every viewing. "It's not the tomato that harms you!" Talk about stating the "******* obvious!" I know phobias and anxieties are not always particularly rational, but still this is ridiculous. This couple appear little more than PR / manufactured telly therapists.