Random rubbishy records

[historymystery]

The Burt Bacharach song Wives and Lovers. Hey little girl comb your hair fix your make up,soon he will open the door. Don't think because there's a ring on your finger you needn't try anymore.!!!!!! That's just the first few lines.

A while back there was a TV programme televised from Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club in the West End, celebrating the music of Burt Bacharach (if you haven't seen it and you like this kind of music played by first-class musicians, it's well worth a look round on the Net to see if you can find a recording of it - some brilliant musicians playing). The singer - Ian somebody, can't remember his last name off-hand - sang Wives and Lovers, and he made a comment that it was not a song that would go down well today! Other days, other ways, as they say....but the programme was brilliant, nonetheless.

 

[merryone]

A while back there was a TV programme televised from Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club in the West End, celebrating the music of Burt Bacharach (if you haven't seen it and you like this kind of music played by first-class musicians, it's well worth a look round on the Net to see if you can find a recording of it - some brilliant musicians playing). The singer - Ian somebody, can't remember his last name off-hand - sang Wives and Lovers, and he made a comment that it was not a song that would go down well today! Other days, other ways, as they say....but the programme was brilliant, nonetheless.

Never heard of that song before so I googled the lyrics and whilst I was lucky enough to be living in a more equal age this sort of thing makes me seethe!

 

[historymystery]

Never heard of that song before so I googled the lyrics and whilst I was lucky enough to be living in a more equal age this sort of thing makes me seethe!

I believe they said the song was recorded in 1963, but listening to the lyrics today you could believe 1863.

 

[merryone]

I believe they said the song was recorded in 1963, but listening to the lyrics today you could believe 1863.

Just awful isn't it! I really don't get that cross when I think about the old "family values" of yesteryear - The man went out to work to earn the money and the wife stayed home to look after the kids and did all the cooking and household chores, for better for worse that's how it used to be. But to suggest in text or in song as a woman you need to be on top of your game looks wise otherwise (understandably) your husband will cop off with his secretary is absolutely disgraceful regardless of the era! Could you imagine a song suggesting to a man that he should be kind to his hardworking wife, compliment her on her cooking, tell her she's looking beautiful etc otherwise she'll cop off with the postman or the bloke who's come to service the boiler?!

 

[historymystery]

Just awful isn't it! I really don't get that cross when I think about the old "family values" of yesteryear - The man went out to work to earn the money and the wife stayed home to look after the kids and did all the cooking and household chores, for better for worse that's how it used to be. But to suggest in text or in song as a woman you need to be on top of your game looks wise otherwise (understandably) your husband will cop off with his secretary is absolutely disgraceful regardless of the era! Could you imagine a song suggesting to a man that he should be kind to his hardworking wife, compliment her on her cooking, tell her she's looking beautiful etc otherwise she'll cop off with the postman or the bloke who's come to service the boiler?!

Didn't Glenn Campbell have a song about 'the dreams of the everyday housewife' (can't remember the title or the rest of the words) - I can remember hearing that on the radio in my twenties and thinking 'what the.......' even then.

 

[Patsy]

Didn't Glenn Campbell have a song about 'the dreams of the everyday housewife' (can't remember the title or the rest of the words) - I can remember hearing that on the radio in my twenties and thinking 'what the.......' even then.

Yes Glen Campbell,seem to remember it. Just had a look at the lyrics

 

[merryone]

Yes Glen Campbell,seem to remember it. Just had a look at the lyrics

I've just looked at the lyrics and to me apart from the words "everyday" and "housewife" I didn't see anything too egregious about it. A song about an older woman reliving her youth through the eyes of the husband who believes that she "gave it all up for him" when she married him - quite sweet really. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this. At worst this song stereotypes women of a certain age, but for me it's true -I catch the old wrinkles in the mirror, look back at old photographs, dance around the house to the old music from my disco days, and of course the song forgets the fact that blokes age as well- It's of it's time of course and wouldn't be made today. As a footnote I have read that Glen Campbell was a wife beater in his time, but I checked and he didn't actually write this song himself.

 

[historymystery]

I've just looked at the lyrics and to me apart from the words "everyday" and "housewife" I didn't see anything too egregious about it. A song about an older woman reliving her youth through the eyes of the husband who believes that she "gave it all up for him" when she married him - quite sweet really. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this. At worst this song stereotypes women of a certain age, but for me it's true -I catch the old wrinkles in the mirror, look back at old photographs, dance around the house to the old music from my disco days, and of course the song forgets the fact that blokes age as well- It's of it's time of course and wouldn't be made today. As a footnote I have read that Glen Campbell was a wife beater in his time, but I checked and he didn't actually write this song himself.

You are probably right on this - I can only remember a bit of the song and can remember when I first heard the lyrics thinking it assumed a woman would be quite happy to 'give up the good life' and her independence for being the little woman at home.

I knew Glenn Campbell was no longer with us, but I didn't know about the rest.

 

[mediastar]

My least favourite songs include "goodnight Irene", "(you chose a fine time to leave me) Lucille!" , "Take the Ribbon" (which a female vocalist sang in the CMAs last night and I turned the volume down till she was done)!