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Jezza selling batteries probably find out they are 3 years old
I once saw a programme about Hoarders, the man got "a good deal" on a boxful of batteries. They were stuck in his garage for years. The expert trying to clear his house wanted to throw them away as they were years passed their use by date. He had the nerve to get angry with the expert saying "are you telling me I've wasted my money?"
 
Just posted a Question on the QVC thread about the Molton brown.

There is a possibility, they could be flogging Christmas 2023 Stock, which would explain everything

Detective Jazzy on the case! 🕵🏻‍♀️

I wouldn't worry too much about your sets. If IW has got clearance stock they should still be within expiry since the high street chains only tend to "clearance" popular lines once they get under a year – unless they get put on clearance sooner for trivial reasons, e.g., 'the brand has changed its logo (again)', 'it's last season's fragrance', 'it's the old packaging' etc.

As long as the bottles/jars/etc in the sets haven't been opened they should be fine to gift.

Most cosmetics and toiletries also have a little number in an icon somewhere on them which says how long after opening they need to be used by.

It looks something like this:

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So as long as it's not expired and hasn't been opened yet, it should be fine.

Just hope the packaging is in a better state than the ones they shown onscreen!
 
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I really don't think any of you should worry about the production date of this Melting Brawn.

Not only is vintage shower gel a joy, not only are these heirloom cleansing products, they are a lot of money elsewhere, alright.
Multi-buy if you can because you won't find stuff this old in the shops.
And do put it on your household insurance
 
Just sent a text asking can the presenter read out the expiry date on that Molton Brown, I’ve ordered some but now wondering.

I know they won’t read it
Just seen Dr Edwards selling the set of Fiery Pink Pepper. I actually use this and mine is a clear bright pink not a thick opaque brown colour. I have a small bottle of same that must be at least 3 years old that I take with me when I stay with my sister for two days at Christmas and that’s still pink. It looks more like Re-charge black pepper. So it’s either mislabelled or very old stock I suspect.
 
I ordered some sets on Friday, now beginning to wonder, any idea if the box may have a expiry date, If in date I will keep,

It’s not like you can’t even open it up and check, as the returns system, is as old fashioned as the dinosaurs in Jurassic park
Jazzy, I have Molten Brown that’s 2 or 3 years old and it’s still ok. I had a bottle of their Frankincense and Allspice handwash that I used for a couple of months every winter for 4 years. I kept it in a dark cupboard when not in use. The hand lotion that came with it is still ok as I tried it a couple of days ago. Hopefully yours will be ok.
 
And nonsense about, "there's no greater compliment for a guy when someone comes up to you in a restaurant and asks you to tell them about your watch".

Who has ever been asked about their watch in a restaurant?
...
Twice actually.

First time was in the late night kebab shop when my watch that has a reflective circular bezel dial glinted under the fluorescent light and my friend behind the counter asked about it, so showed him it and the automatic movement.

Second time was in Wetherspoon's, of all places, where my 'dining companion' took interest in my pilot-style automatic with 3 complications. Showed them the functions and automatic rotor, etc.

Says more about my dining habits, huh?! 😘😊

And also:

Twice at work. Many younger people have smart watches or iPhones and are fascinated learning about automatic and mechanical 'old-style' movements, that some are unaware of.

N.B. I only showed them when they asked and took interest. I am not a 'watch bore' forcing my interests on others, honest. Except maybe here. 😀
 
I once saw a programme about Hoarders, the man got "a good deal" on a boxful of batteries. They were stuck in his garage for years. The expert trying to clear his house wanted to throw them away as they were years passed their use by date. He had the nerve to get angry with the expert saying "are you telling me I've wasted my money?"
Don't knock 'hoarders'. Most of my eBay auction/offer tech bargains were from house estates of sadly deceased, where a relative is selling off their possessions, for a lot less than they were bought for, or worth.

One branded new unused 4G phone I bought on eBay about 5 years ago was a quarter of the price and came from someone who said their original owner "bought loads of things they never used or opened, often from the TV shopping channels". This phone was indeed purchased by them from Ideal World 2 originally.

Similarly, I had a deceased distant male relative where his daughter and son-in-law were clearing the house and found piles of brand new shirts, suits, shoes, clothes, all still in their packs unopened. He liked buying clothes he liked and thought may use in the future. Just in case and nice to have.

Some hoarders from the older generation also often have deep-rooted needs to insulate from earlier poverty or less than ideal experiences in their earlier years.
 
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Don't knock 'hoarders'. Most of my eBay auction/offer tech bargains were from house estates of sadly deceased, where a relative is selling off their possessions, for a lot less than they were bought for, or worth.

One branded new unused 4G phone I bought on eBay about 5 years ago was a quarter of the price and came from someone who said their original owner "bought loads of things they never used or opened, often from the TV shopping channels". This phone was indeed purchased by them from Ideal World 2 originally.

Similarly, I had a deceased distant male relative where his daughter and son-in-law were clearing the house and found piles of brand new shirts, suits, shoes, clothes, all still in their packs unopened. He liked buying clothes he liked and thought may use in the future. Just in case and nice to have.

Some hoarders from the older generation also often have deep-rooted needs to insulate from earlier poverty or less than ideal experiences in their earlier years.
Fine for people clearing their houses as they will find useful unopened items. But most have trauma triggering the hoarding, like "my mother threw away all my toys when I was 6". So for the next 50 years they obsessively buy toys. It's a complex issue and I have of it through a close family member. Spending all their money on rubbish that doesn't get used and just gets piled up whilst only having one pair of shoes that have holes in (then expecting other people, usually me, to bail them out when something important happens - I won't). Some people just have too much stuff and buy "just in case", some obsessively buy and would have a heart attack if you threw one of their items away, there is a difference.
 
Don't knock 'hoarders'. Most of my eBay auction/offer tech bargains were from house estates of sadly deceased, where a relative is selling off their possessions, for a lot less than they were bought for, or worth.

One branded new unused 4G phone I bought on eBay about 5 years ago was a quarter of the price and came from someone who said their original owner "bought loads of things they never used or opened, often from the TV shopping channels". This phone was indeed purchased by them from Ideal World 2 originally.

Similarly, I had a deceased distant male relative where his daughter and son-in-law were clearing the house and found piles of brand new shirts, suits, shoes, clothes, all still in their packs unopened. He liked buying clothes he liked and thought may use in the future. Just in case and nice to have.

Some hoarders from the older generation also often have deep-rooted needs to insulate from earlier poverty or less than ideal experiences in their earlier years.
When I moved up to Nottingham in the later 2000s I took a job as a support worker in a role for people over 60. I had done community advocacy for people with physical disabilities/mental health issues for several years prior to that in Northamptonshire.

One of my service users was quite a dapper looking chap in his 70s. Well-presented and articulate. The well-presented stopped right there. His house was in the most unbelievable state of crammed to the filthy brim chaos I have ever seen. And that includes those clutter horror stories you see on Channel 4 etc.. Where to start? Well, getting through the front door of his house was the first issue as there was only just space for a man of my physical stature to get through it. The conundrum of it all was this plausible, pleasant elderly gentleman surrounded by rotting food in his kitchen full of overflowing bin bags of God knows what in a house full of old batteries, torches, cameras, clothing, empty boxes, full boxes, going up to the ceiling in every room. Have a cup of a tea, he said.. Err..I’ve just had one, thanks, Reg (he wasn’t called Reg really)…

The trouble with Reg and with I suspect a number of hoarders at his level of ‘clutteritis’ is they see the problem, literally, want help, but then cannot accept even a leaking, rusty old HP7 battery being thrown away. The problem also pushes away (literally again) loved ones and friends. You wonder if this extreme way of keeping social contact at a long arm’s length is all part of the adverse reaction to the emotional traumas many suffer from? In Reg’s case, after months of working with him and gentle persuasion, we got him to the point where he had a front room people could safely walk through, a relatively accessible and cleaner kitchen, and a more useable and safer house in general.

Even now, I cannot fully understand why people like Reg get their homes into this state. There was with him an issue of bereavement (his partner) and an almost closing down physically, socially and emotionally against life reaction. Building a wall of clutter as some sort of visual defence mechanism against the world in general. I think this is a common theme with many hoarders in his position. But it is the intense protectiveness many have to even a dirty rag with holes in it, or a ten years out of date packet or rancid sausage rolls I don’t get! Saying that some broken plastic filthy fork will come in useful with a good clean, for example.. The key, if there is one, is having the time to work with them, AND…getting them on board to and accepting of gradual and subtle change. Some though, you either cannot help, or they return months later to a similar way of living.
 
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Excellent post Duke. One of the US hoarding programmes featured a former teacher who had, amongst all the crud, a huge number of educational books. But her house was full of mould and vermin.

She wanted to donate the books to a school. The expert examined then. One of them had mould and mouse droppings throughout. She said that could be wiped off. Also, one was a science book 30 years old and some info in it was out of date. Despite being told this she still wanted to donate them to schools otherwise they would be wasted.

And it's interesting how many of them, like the example you gave, outŵardly presented as clean, smart people. The US programmes featured people whose homes were not functioning, maybe no working toilet and barely any room to move. Some used shower facilities in shops or gyms and wore adult nappies at night. Which were in bags and not thrown away. But they often presented as clean and smart (no idea how) and friends were shocked.

Duke, your broken plastic fork is a good example. It can still be used therefore should stay.

People hoarding newspapers is quite common. Knowledge is contained in papers and shouldn't be thrown away is a common view. One man had tons of stuff on the stairs with barely room to move and his wife fell down the stairs and broke her leg. He loved his wife and was very upset but still very reluctant to clear anything.

And some hoarders literally hoard rubbish like Coke cans and have them scattered all over. Or don't ever clear rubbish bags which are piled up.

The trouble is they normalise the situation and just accept iit rather than thinking how could improve it. Very sad.
 
I ordered some sets on Friday, now beginning to wonder, any idea if the box may have a expiry date, If in date I will keep,

It’s not like you can’t even open it up and check, as the returns system, is as old fashioned as the dinosaurs in Jurassic park
I’ve never seen an expiry date on anything from MB, I’ve just checked on my TSV from QVC, and a gift set from MB direct. They usually say unopened most of these things are good for 3 years. In fact I have a Christmas Hand wash that only comes out in December, and it’s still going strong!
 
Wife and I have only bought two items from the latest IW.
She bought a small shaggy type rug for the bedside and I got a stop leak tape DIY stuff.
She is quite happy with the rug, the stop leak tape didn't work in the application that I tried it in.
Both were free delivery so no P&P issues.
I'm going to add a photo of the standard returns information as stated on the invoice that came with one of items, and I'll let draw your on conclusions. View attachment 30290
Welcome to the land of TJC, who now own IW under their parent company VGL Global.
 
Having read their returns policy, I cannot see how any person doing the same would ever take the risk of buying from them? Would you buy non-perishable goods from a shop, say, whose stated refunds and returns policy was they would only reimburse or replace if you returned the purchase unused and unopened? Maybe in 1975 you might, but not now. Not with the ease of essentially no quibble refunds with companies like Amazon for goods you have actually ROAD-TESTED and aren’t subsequently aren’t happy with. I assume they (TJC and IW) make their monies mainly from the naive and the ill-informed and the downright idiotic in general? Their presenters certainly treat them in that way during their pitches.
 
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Thanks for the posts.

With the amount of Beauty they sell, They should in my eyes employ 2 Beauty Therapists for the amount of Beauty they sell, QVC only have Alison Young, but they also have proper guests, and presenters who know the products.

I would have a Beauty Expert from 6am to 10am, and I would have a couple of other hours daily.

What needs to stop are these Random Beauty products appearing willy nilly, especially male hosts, who havent a Clue, Take the Molton Brown for example, not once did they explain what was in it. Didn’t mention If it was tested on Animals etc, Just a whole load of Guff
 
I don’t think their beauty format sits comfortably with the rest of shows. Ideally, a separate channel or red button option for Beauty (can they afford a red button?) for people like me who cannot stand anything to do with fashion or health and beauty items, and of course those who really do like their beauty products. As it stands we are not an easy mix. I did enjoy the recent ‘Most Famous Beauty Expert in Christendom’ appearing with Simon Peters the other day, and shamelessly taking the pisstola out of the vain old fu….for the entire show.
 
at least with the fashion it is generally in the 2pm to 6pm slot, Those 4 hours should be the only hours that include Bags.

10pm to 2am, when viewership is less, Could be Best of the Day, So fashion and Bags could be shown then.

Other hours could be Tech and Kitchen and Watches. Have a dedicated watch show every night, if they sell.
 

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