Random musings and general banter.

[PhædrusR]

What automatic watch were they selling under £15?

Prof would be the better for repairing movements advice.

Some movements have slightly stiffer rotors than others, Miyota rotors (unidirectional) tend to free wheel, on my Seikos the rotors (bi-directional) don't move as freely.

But your problem could be just rotor that's been overtightned or maybe some dirt under the rotor causing it to stick. Me, cause it's under £15 would be in the back of that watch to have a look.
At £15 unless it had some sentimental value then it ain't worth getting it sorted unless you can do it yourself.

Brand new. No dirt. Not jammed
Rotor is bidirectional, wobbles but needs strong hand/wrist/arm movement before the rotor effectively jumps/moves in quarter movements. Either too tight or spring is stopping it moving freely. I have other automatics where the rotor smoothly freewheels from any angle or inclination.
My feeling is these tight rotors won't move enough over the day to charge the mainspring sufficiently. Works ok as a wind up mechanical!

I have a local watch/clock shop I have used before, he can take the display backs off to fix it if needed.

These are £22-£27 TJC/IW automatics. After discount codes, free p&p, got it under £20/£15. I like some of the different designs/casings/straps/colours/variety. Have others as well from tkmaxx etc, but cheap and cheerful everyday to wear also.

 

[PhædrusR]

I am sure I heard your username read out by Simon this evening as a texting customer. Could be wrong, but not many similar sounding ones to mistake it by. Assume it wasn’t really you…

Brilliant. My wish is their command.. No, not me. The crew reading this forum really are taking the p!ss now, aren't they, playing along with us?!

They must be big avid fans of this forum Hello guys and gals! Shame they don't act more on the feedback.
e.g. PS 'only £6 on 3 flexis'. No, it's £18 on 3 flexis, of £6.
That is the complaint of mis-selling, misinformation, obfuscation that I would go to ASA with. If I could be bothered.

Even I don't know how to properly regularly pronounce my name, Feedrus, Faydrus, Fadrus a mix of Fayeedrus, etc.

I tend to go with 'Faeeee' as the æ is supposed to be pronounced.

The Emu balm is called Lorem.

pain

The word 'lorem', for example, isn't a real Latin word, it's a shortened version of the word 'dolorem', meaning pain. This makes the current dummy text (Lorem Ipsum) impossible to translate into English.



Anyone would say it was a AI made up brand name for the snake oil it is.

What part of the Emu is ground up to make it?

Surely the yellow beak and tinsel feathers get in the mixer gears and clog it up? After they pick out Rod Hull's blonde wig fibres first??

 

[PhædrusR]

The Emu balm is called Lorem.

pain

The word 'lorem', for example, isn't a real Latin word, it's a shortened version of the word 'dolorem', meaning pain. This makes the current dummy text (Lorem Ipsum) impossible to translate into English.



Anyone would say it was a AI made up brand name for the snake oil it is.

What part of the Emu is ground up to make it?

Surely the yellow beak and tinsel feathers get in the mixer gears and clog it up? After they pick out Rod Hull's blonde wig fibres first??

Wtf is Emu oil?
From what part of the (dead?) emu.
From its fat apparently.

Webmd:
Emu oil comes from the fat of a large, flightless bird called the emu. The emu is native to Australia and is now farmed in the US, Canada, and Europe. Emu oil contains chemicals called fatty acids. These chemicals might reduce pain and swelling.

https://www.webmd.com › vitamins

Emu Oil – Uses, Side Effects, and More - WebMD​

These chemicals might reduce pain and swelling. Emu oil also has moisturizing and cosmetic properties similar to mineral oil. People use emu oil for hair loss, eczema, burns, high cholesterol, psoriasis, wound healing, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support these uses.

According to PS it smells lovely. According to the Lorem website it is perfumeless.

Buy Emu Balm Muscle and Joint Relief Cream In UK | Lorem

Buy Lorem's Emu balm muscles and joint relief cream in UK. The perfect blend of Australian Emu oil with essential oils provide quick relief to joint aches.

www.loremcare.co.uk

Ever heard of the placebo effect?

 

[Professor Branestawm]

Cheapest new automatic day/date non-swiss I could find:

Pagani Design PD-1752 Day-Date 36MM 100M Waterproof Seagull ST16 Automatic Mechanical Watch Sapphire Crystal AR Coating luminous Business Watch

Brand Name: Pagani Design Watch Model Number: Pagani Design PD-1752 Style: Fashion & Casual Watch, Business Watch Feature: Water Resistant Feature: Week Display Feature: Diver Feature: Complete Calendar Feature: Shock Resistant Feature: Auto Date Feature: Luminous Water Resistance Depth: 10Bar...

www.paganidesignwatch.com

P.S. @Hammy60 @Professor Branestawm
Watch repair advice please: I bought a very cheap (under £15) chinese automatic movement watch from TJC. The winding rotor doesn't move freely, it's not loose, and only moves or drops down if I shake it. Is this faulty, or as expected, does it need loosening inside the case?
The crown manual winding and spring are fine. Is it fixable or should I put up with it. Not worth returning, tbh.

Sounds like debris blocking it. If you can open the case, you might be able to see a hair or other debris in there. Be careful, though, because it’s still working with a manual wind, so it has to be in the automatic works.
At that price, though it’s pretty much disposable, I’m very sorry.

 

[PhædrusR]

Sounds like debris blocking it. If you can open the case, you might be able to see a hair or other debris in there. Be careful, though, because it’s still working with a manual wind, so it has to be in the automatic works.
At that price, though it’s pretty much disposable, I’m very sorry.

No, it isn't dirt. Clean, new.
Either the mechanism is too tight for the rotor to move, the spring it charges and the assembly may not be allowing the rotor to move freely.
Presumably even if the spring was fully wound, the rotor should still be able to move freely. It does move and jump to other positions, if i shake kr move my hand, but need to do with more energy than I think would naturally move it at raised angles, etc.

Not a problem, can still use and wear use as part mechanical wind ups.

Might do a test and not wind up and see if wearing it does wind it.

 

[HughTwo]

Usual Duchump tripe from Dirty Peter.

"This is nearly two thousand POUND of watch, You are saving fifteen hundred POUND.
"If you like it, buy it, alright.
"You must put it on your household insurance".

Yet another tribute to "John-Paul and the team".

David, Christopher, Muriel and Alan all buying.
Muriel must have a bigger watch collection than Of-the-Masons

 

[PhædrusR]

Enjoy your dinner:

Where Does Emu Oil Come From? How is Emu Oil Made?

Read here for an explanation of how emu oil is harvested, how it's extracted, what happens to the birds, and how to determine if you are buying the best quality emu oil.

emujoy.com

When emus are processed, a three to four inch layer of fat along the bird's back is separated and removed. First the fat is specially rendered (melted) to clean and prepare the oil for final processing. This step is very important. Insufficient rendering of the fat will affect the stability of the final product and prevent it from being considered “top grade”.

- yes must have top grade oil to rub into my skin. No other quality will do.

 

[Professor Branestawm]

Brand new. No dirt. Not jammed
Rotor is bidirectional, wobbles but needs strong hand/wrist/arm movement before the rotor effectively jumps/moves in quarter movements. Either too tight or spring is stopping it moving freely. I have other automatics where the rotor smoothly freewheels from any angle or inclination.
My feeling is these tight rotors won't move enough over the day to charge the mainspring sufficiently. Works ok as a wind up mechanical!

I have a local watch/clock shop I have used before, he can take the display backs off to fix it if needed.

These are £22-£27 TJC/IW automatics. After discount codes, free p&p, got it under £20/£15. I like some of the different designs/casings/straps/colours/variety. Have others as well from tkmaxx etc, but cheap and cheerful everyday to wear also.

Thinking about it, its probably a 21J movement. Not really worthy of repair, but there are a couple of things you could try.
Do you have any Epilame Fixodrop? You could try cleaning the reversing wheel and then treating it with some? It’s dear though - so if you didn’t have any it would cost the same as your watch did.
These movements are so cheaply made,the rotor doesn’t even often have a bearing, but just a bushing. If that’s not properly attached,you could gently try it with a screwdriver (it’s just a slotted head in many). But I’m sorry to say they are not really made to be repaired.

 

[PhædrusR]

Usual Duchump tripe from Dirty Peter.

"This is nearly two thousand POUND of watch, You are saving fifteen hundred POUND.
"If you like it, buy it, alright.
"You must put it on your household insurance".

Yet another tribute to "John-Paul and the team".

David, Christopher, Muriel and Alan all buying.
Muriel must have a bigger watch collection than Of-the-Masons

Things I learned tonight:

- PS cannot pronounce Radillon. It is 'rad-ee-on' you muppet, not Radi-lon. The LL is pronounced as a y. I French/Swiss/(Spanish).

- Duchamp iwn overpriced web site cannot spell: Raidillon, should be Radillon. In the comparison they brought up. Or IW montage misspelling.

- the watch is £94. No mention of flexipay at all by PS at some points.

- just checkout, get it in your basket and pay to get it home. For £94. Before the bailiff turns up asking for the rest of the payments.

- muriel, ryder, david are in for the duchamp. So apparently Online they are monitoring accounts, presumably signed in and not guests, putting things in their baskets??? In real time. Before checkout. Really?

- or the Irish free phone desk number also knows names of people pondering a purchase. Really?

- only a few of these Radillons left, one or 2 only. Of each model variant.

- Duchamps are heirloom pieces to hand down for generations and need to be put on home insurance

- the purchasers are fighting and returning to buy these online. Quick! Get it in your basket and check out before Anthony returns and steals it away from you! Quick! Checkout now!

Talk about smoke and mirrors and creating a false sense of urgency with 'limited stock'.
Granted, it's good presentation/acting.

 

[Battiola73]

yeah for sure, I went Birmingham Cable, Telewest, NTL and then Virgin, been with the same people most of that time !!

Similar for me Nynex, Cable & Wireless, NTL and now Virgin. Never actually switched but company changed hands.

 

[PhædrusR]

Usual Duchump tripe from Dirty Peter.

"This is nearly two thousand POUND of watch, You are saving fifteen hundred POUND.
"If you like it, buy it, alright.
"You must put it on your household insurance".

Yet another tribute to "John-Paul and the team".

David, Christopher, Muriel and Alan all buying.
Muriel must have a bigger watch collection than Of-the-Masons

Things I learned tonight:

- PS cannot pronounce Radillon. It is 'rad-ee-on' you muppet, not Radi-lon. The LL js pronounced as a y.

- duchamp overpriced web site cannot spell: Raidillon, should be Radillon.

- the watch is £94. No mention of flexipay at all by PS at some points

- just checkout, get it in your basket and pay to get it home. For £94. Before the bailiff turns up asking for the rest of the cash

- muriel, ryder, david are in for the duchamp. Online they are monitoring accounts, presumably signed in and not guests putting things in their baskets??? In real time. Before checkout. Really?

 

[Battiola73]

More 1970's 'geezer' chat - claiming Trevor texted to say he got a watch "on the side, hidden from THE wife".
Luverrrly, nice one mate .

Off-the-Masons must be smelling luverrrly after wearing that 100% polyester top - the one they billed as cotton - for four hours under studio lights

Maybe or maybe not. Depends if he’s used the Dobuy air freshener as his deodorant.

 

[Duke of Cheese]

22 watching the You Tube live feed currently. 22?? How many watching on other platforms to pass the time? Northern Line Northbound at Moorgate….Eastbound District at Upton Park?? It cannot be more than a few hundred? Less, even?

Talking of Moorgate, that reminds me…When I joined the BTP in 1981 in London, the Moorgate Disaster was still relatively recent. Essentially, the motorman, a guy named Newson, had frozen at the controls as his rush hour, commuters filled train hurtled through the platform area of the end station (Moorgate). The dead man’s handle never got applied and the train hit the buffers at about 40 MPH. As I said, this was a busy rush hour train and fatalities therefore were high (43) with many others suffering what they now refer to as ‘life changing injuries’. As young recruits we got to see the London Transport and Police files related to the crash. Including the pictures of the driver whose body was the last to be recovered. Something I will never forget.

On nights, after the system shutdown, we as Police Officers, had to check empty of passengers tube stations - usually on our own. Some of the bigger central London ones had an eerie feeling about them, devoid of any people, bar the P-Way workers repairing and maintaining the tracks. I got sent down to Moorgate one night, to the former Northern Line City Platforms area, now running as British Rail trains and service. The Southbound platform where some of the cab of the Disaster train was bricked into still. The fear that I felt down there that night, I still clearly recall to this day. Nothing tangible, but overwhelmingly there nonetheless. Some people have similar experiences in old ‘haunted’ buildings. I got it there. Luckily, on the night in question, I had my Christian Duchump Emu Oil with me. I rubbed some into my forehead thinking it may or could help.. It didn’t. It was sh…

 

[HughTwo]

They're not going to do this Raidillon Duchump again this side of Christmas, says Dirty Pedro.

Thanks heavens for that - this dirge "not only with your shirts, your jeans, worn by some of the most famous people, go and ave a buy".

I can just see a millionaire movie star being egged on by their wife - "go on, ave a buy, pay 2000 pound."

 

[PhædrusR]

Thinking about it, its probably a 21J movement. Not really worthy of repair, but there are a couple of things you could try.
Do you have any Epilame Fixodrop? You could try cleaning the reversing wheel and then treating it with some? It’s dear though - so if you didn’t have any it would cost the same as your watch did.
These movements are so cheaply made,the rotor doesn’t even often have a bearing, but just a bushing. If that’s not properly attached,you could gently try it with a screwdriver (it’s just a slotted head in many). But I’m sorry to say they are not really made to be repaired.

Yes, this sounds more like it the central screw for the rotor has a screwdriver slot.
No I do not have any Fixodrop. Unfortunately unlike sone of my better watches these case backs do not have those square slots for a watch back remover device to remove the rear display backs. As far. as I can tell. Not sure how I would remove the back.

Anyway, I might take it to my watch repair man and see if he'll do me a favour. He had an Omega I nearly bought off him, so may do me a favour if he drops the price!

Otherwise I'll just wind and use as mechanical. Not a problem.

 

[PhædrusR]

Maybe or maybe not. Depends if he’s used the Dobuy air freshener as his deodorant.

Ahhhh, is that why it's called Dubai?

Come here, do buy, please.

All is now clear.

 

[Professor Branestawm]

What a ludicrous old charlatan he is. All he needs is dusty town with a saloon bar, a medicine wagon and two old goats to pull him off rapidly when he is ready to flee from angry returning customers with six-shooters…

Now I have an image of him with two old goats doing just that in my head!
I didn’t really expect that!

 

[PhædrusR]

22 watching the You Tube live feed currently. 22?? How many watching on other platforms to pass the time? Northern Line Northbound at Moorgate….Eastbound District at Upton Park?? It cannot be more than a few hundred? Less, even?

Talking of Moorgate, that reminds me…When I joined the BTP in 1981 in London, the Moorgate Disaster was still relatively recent. Essentially, the motorman, a guy named Newson, had frozen at the controls as his rush hour, commuters filled train hurtled through the platform area of the end station (Moorgate). The dead man’s handle never got applied and the train hit the buffers at about 40 MPH. As I said, this was a busy rush hour train and fatalities therefore were high (43) with many others suffering what they now refer to as ‘life changing injuries’. As young recruits we got to see the London Transport and Police files related to the crash. Including the pictures of the driver whose body was the last to be recovered. Something I will never forget.

On nights, after the system shutdown, we as Police Officers, had to check empty of passengers tube stations - usually on our own. Some of the bigger central London ones had an eerie feeling about them, devoid of any people, bar the P-Way workers repairing and maintaining the tracks. I got sent down to Moorgate one night, to the former Northern Line City Platforms area, now running as British Rail trains and service. The Southbound platform where some of the cab of the Disaster train was bricked into still. The fear that I felt down there that night, I still clearly recall to this day. Nothing tangible, but overwhelmingly there nonetheless. Some people have similar experiences in old ‘haunted’ buildings. I got it there. Luckily, on the night in question, I had my Christian Duchump Emu Oil with me. I rubbed some into my forehead thinking it may or could help.. It didn’t. It was sh…

Geez Duke @Duke of Cheese , keep it light?!

I can think of better scenarios to make fun of rendered Dead bird fat balm. Maybe the Duchamp's use it for watch oil?

I bought some coconut oil a while back. Dead coconuts are preferable.

 

[Professor Branestawm]

Yes, this sounds more like it the central screw for the rotor has a screwdriver slot.
No I do not have any Fixodrop. Unfortunately unlike sone of my better watches these case backs do not have those square slots for a watch back remover device to remove the rear display backs. As far. as I can tell. Not sure how I would remove the back.

Anyway, I might take it to my watch repair man and see if he'll do me a favour. He had an Omega I nearly bought off him, so may do me a favour if he drops the price!

Otherwise I'll just wind and use as mechanical. Not a problem.

It’s probably a press-on back. There might be a small indentation in it - if so you insert a thin, sturdy blade then the back will flip off (careful of fingers). They are the cheapest to make, so I’d be betting that’s what they’ll have used.
In any case - good luck. If I find a mechanism in the workshop I’ll PM you. I did have a few that I’d discarded because it was easier and cheaper just to fit a new one than to service an old one. They don’t have a value, so if I do see one I’ll pm you and you can have it. No promises, because I haven’t looked and it might be a while before I feel up to going in - but if I have one, you can have it.

 

[PhædrusR]

Oops, sorry, it is Raidillon. Named after the Raidillon curve at Spa Francochamps, apparently.

They all did spell it right. My mistake.