Baltic Ocean Blue Amber ... as natural as UFOs

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LV73 said:
What! But they always rave on about them being totally natural. I took them at face value and bought from them. At least I still love my pieces, and it can't be just Gemporia who does this as I saw coloured Amber in Gdansk and on the cruise ship I was on (at 3 or 4 times the price)
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They love misleading like that. Adina referred to this blue Amber as being, and I quote, "a work of mother nature" yesterday.

It was coated!

They do it with Swiss Blue / London Blue Topaz aswell - referring to the "rarety of this find". Its all IRRADIATED! There is a very light blue of Topaz that is natural (an Aquamarine shade of blue) - but the deeper blues of Swiss Blue and London Blue do not form naturally. They NEED to be irradiated to get that colour.
 
TheManWithNoName said:
They love misleading like that. Adina referred to this blue Amber as being, and I quote, "a work of mother nature" yesterday.

It was coated!

They do it with Swiss Blue / London Blue Topaz aswell - referring to the "rarety of this find". Its all IRRADIATED! There is a very light blue of Topaz that is natural (an Aquamarine shade of blue) - but the deeper blues of Swiss Blue and London Blue do not form naturally. They NEED to be irradiated to get that colour.
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I bought their Amber a few years ago now, haven't seen the blue. I bought a green amber ring and a bracelet that had green, normal and a darker (cognac?) amber stone. They waxed lyrical at the time about each piece being individually made by Mother Nature and all unique etc. Never said they'd been treated to change the colour!
 
LV73 said:
I bought their Amber a few years ago now, haven't seen the blue. I bought a green amber ring and a bracelet that had green, normal and a darker (cognac?) amber stone. They waxed lyrical at the time about each piece being individually made by Mother Nature and all unique etc. Never said they'd been treated to change the colour!
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Nope. They never do. And while they continue to just get repeated warnings from the ASA without any further punishment, they'll continue to be economical with the truth because the worst that happens is they'll just get another warning.

The ASA are solely to blame for this shambles continuing.
 
stratobuddy said:
Just as an outsider to this thread, if you want amber then surely you want natural coloured amber colour?

If you want a dyed colour, what is the point of it being amber, it may just as well be plastic!
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I totally agree - but, sadly, due to the presentations, people fall for the speech of it having inclusions, history, etc - when in reality, Gemporia's Amber has little, if any, inclusions other than air bubbles.
 
stratobuddy said:
Just as an outsider to this thread, if you want amber then surely you want natural coloured amber colour?

If you want a dyed colour, what is the point of it being amber, it may just as well be plastic!
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Yes, but if you are led to believe that it is a natural variation (from darker or lighter sap etc) and you like the colour then you aren't really trying to buy a dyed colour, like neon pink. After all, natural gemstones come in a variety of hues not a single shade. I'm not talking about a garish false colour. What can I say, yes I was stupid enough to fall for the speil, but I do love my pieces.
 
stratobuddy said:
if you want amber then surely you want natural coloured amber colour?
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The thing is, natural blue amber is a real thing - and very rare - so from a collectable point of view, people will want it. I've got a piece - it's gorgeous.

The problem here is that Gemporia (specifically Adina) are calling theirs things like "a wonderful work of nature" - knowing full well that theirs is coated and have no collectable value at all.
 
TheManWithNoName said:
The thing is, natural blue amber is a real thing - and very rare - so from a collectable point of view, people will want it. I've got a piece - it's gorgeous.

The problem here is that Gemporia (specifically Adina) are calling theirs things like "a wonderful work of nature" - knowing full well that theirs is coated and have no collectable value at all.
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I saw this evenings schedule and immediately thought of you! Is that weird? I don't know if I can bear to witness Adina this evening, but I might keep and eye on the second screen.
 
TheManWithNoName said:
The thing is, natural blue amber is a real thing - and very rare - so from a collectable point of view, people will want it. I've got a piece - it's gorgeous.

The problem here is that Gemporia (specifically Adina) are calling theirs things like "a wonderful work of nature" - knowing full well that theirs is coated and have no collectable value at all.
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I haven't bought any blue Amber, but have bought pieces of green, cognac, cherry etc from them. They were usually sourced from a bloke called Marius/z. So, were all these treated or coated rather than being natural like they said? I've seen these colours of Amber in Gdansk for sale so always thought I'd been told the truth!

I do still love all my pieces though, but am interested to know if they were economical with the truth!
 
LV73 said:
I haven't bought any blue Amber, but have bought pieces of green, cognac, cherry etc from them. They were usually sourced from a bloke called Marius/z. So, were all these treated or coated rather than being natural like they said? I've seen these colours of Amber in Gdansk for sale so always thought I'd been told the truth!

I do still love all my pieces though, but am interested to know if they were economical with the truth!
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If you bought from Gemporia you should have received their, legendary and valuable!!, authenticity cards which will have shown any treatment . Most will be heat and pressure which Gemporia will suggest is just a man-made method of emulating or speeding up what nature does! But it is still a treatment. And for sure the blue is a coating but I don't know about the other colours like green or cherry. The treatment can also be checked if you find the item in 'My account ' and find the order where you can produce the authenticity card. But most likely not natural as the man on the street might understand natural.
 
GrahamBristol said:
If you bought from Gemporia you should have received their, legendary and valuable!!, authenticity cards which will have shown any treatment . Most will be heat and pressure which Gemporia will suggest is just a man-made method of emulating or speeding up what nature does! But it is still a treatment. And for sure the blue is a coating but I don't know about the other colours like green or cherry. The treatment can also be checked if you find the item in 'My account ' and find the order where you can produce the authenticity card. But most likely not natural as the man on the street might understand natural.
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I have my cards stashed in the loft and can't be bothered to get them at the moment but on the app, if I look at my pieces the authenticity card doesn't mention any treatment because there aren't any headings/sections for treatment!
 
LV73 said:
I haven't bought any blue Amber, but have bought pieces of green, cognac, cherry etc from them. They were usually sourced from a bloke called Marius/z. So, were all these treated or coated rather than being natural like they said? I've seen these colours of Amber in Gdansk for sale so always thought I'd been told the truth!

I do still love all my pieces though, but am interested to know if they were economical with the truth!
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The Butterscotch, Yellow, Champagne and Cognac, Brownish / Orangish colours from Gemporia are almost certainly heat & pressure treated, which is 'acceptable' for Amber.

They have sold sell some untreated Cognac & Brownish / Orange untreated material - but that was primarily on Jewellery Maker years ago.

Baltic Red Amber can be heat & pressure treated - but it can also be coated too. You'd have to check your CoA for the items you bought to see which applies, should you own any of that.

All other colours of BALTIC amber (blue, green, etc) that Gemporia sell are coated.

Untreated Blue amber is available - but it is very rare, and it DOES NOT come from the Baltic areas. It comes primarily from the Dominican Republic, but it can also be found in Indonesia & Burma. The blue is VERY dark usually - and only becomes a vibrant blue under UV light.

You can also get untreated Red Amber - but Gemporia do not sell this. It is usually a VERY dark red (blackish-red).

You can also get Red Amber from the Dominican Republic. This is usually heat treated to make it lighter and clearer so that it can be used in jewellery.
 
LV73 said:
I have my cards stashed in the loft and can't be bothered to get them at the moment but on the app, if I look at my pieces the authenticity card doesn't mention any treatment because there aren't any headings/sections for treatment!
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If you type the product codes into the 'search' box on the Gemporia website, it should bring the item up there - and then you'll be able to see the treatments.
 

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