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Torchy trying to shift those ‘quality’ dartboards again. Didn’t help that one of the magnets fell out of the dart base as he threw it towards the board…

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Although he seems to be doing it less lately, this weird ‘I Never Lie to You’ strap-line he uses is a particularly weird thing to employ doing a job where by absolute design, you should be working within the tedious restrictions of the TRUTH. Can you imagine going into any High Street retailer these days and the sales person using that line as part of their sales technique? Or Amazon, for example, having that as their mantra? As buyers we naturally expect the people that we are buying from to be telling us the truth. We don’t need to be told ‘We Never Lie to You’ to encourage us to buy. In fact, even saying such a thing actually makes you think the person saying it has something to hide. Same thing with ‘I’ll be honest with you.’ It makes you feel the person saying it usually isn’t.

I suppose you can see what he is trying to do, coming from a shopping channel environment previously where there was really nothing to lie about, and selling was done in an understated, calm and generally factual manner. He now finds himself in a workplace where he is clearly, as others are, being asked to exaggerate both the value and the quality of the generally low rent goods that he is selling– goods that he probably, along with the rest of them, wouldn’t give house room too. Strange, though, given their obsession with truth provision - they all seem to make the huge mistake, given the Champagne lifestyle at Beer Money Price world that they are working in, of still buying Champagne Goods at Champagne Prices for their own lives. Using as a selling technique, their ‘foolishness’ for wanting trusted names, and quality products in their homes - rather than buying the same £9.99 type tat they want to inflict on the viewers.
 
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Hammy60 said:
Sold out Gummies are back, IW must have gotten an emergency delivery from India in the middle of the night.;)
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Yes, that old tactic. What was he saying last night? He had been all over the company making phone calls and calling in favours, apparently, to get some more of the stock. A cynic might assume they had this stock all along, but release staggered it at best? Of course, I might be wrong, and the presenters do come in hours before their shifts, and start reordering items for their shows. But given the way the channel operates, and the absolute guff it tells people, I am more likely to think that they had a huge existing stock of this product, and didn’t need to order anything in at all. Or if that’s not the case, they have their own buying staff employed to do that kind of role, and don’t use presenters to do it. Dramatic Licence seems to be a required part of the Presenter Modus Operandi Manual on Channel 51…Making it more ‘Theatrical’ for the viewers - rather than with any deliberate intent to ‘deceive’ them. Well, that’s how the Manual probably explains it.
 
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Duke of Cheese said:
Yes, that old tactic. What was he saying last night? He had been all over the company making phone calls and calling in favours, apparently, to get some more of the stock. A cynic might assume they had this stock all along, but release staggered it at best? Of course, I might be wrong, and the presenters do come in hours before their shifts, and start reordering items for their shows. But given the way the channel operates, and the absolute guff it tells people, I am more likely to think that they had a huge existing stock of this product, and didn’t need to order anything in at all. Or if that’s not the case, they have their own buying staff employed to do that kind of role, and don’t use presenters to do it. Dramatic Licence seems to be a required part of the Presenter Modus Operandi Manual on Channel 51…Making it more ‘Theatrical’ for the viewers - rather than with any deliberate intent to ‘deceive’ them. Well, that’s how the Manual probably explains it.
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As much as they harp on about asking for this and that on their shows and have negotiated prices for customers, I'm of the opinion that's another load of bull. What well run company would run their business by allow a bunch of freelance presenters to dictate what products and prices will be in the live shows, heck what's the point in having buyers/managers negotiating pricing deals, delivery schedules etc with suppliers for shows if the presenters just please themselves, of course it is IW i suppose.:ROFLMAO:
 
Jazzydrury said:
Why did they have a framed picture of Jezza on the Desk, or shant I ask
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Because the place is run by children, I guess. Sometimes it seems that they only really run it as a comedy vehicle for this forum. Essentially, the gift that keeps giving. Not sure what you mean about the smiling bit? Are you talking about Torchy?
 
Duke of Cheese said:
Although he seems to be doing it less lately, this weird ‘I Never Lie to You’ strap-line he uses is a particularly weird thing to employ doing a job where by absolute design, you should be working within the tedious restrictions of the TRUTH. Can you imagine going into any High Street retailer these days and the sales person using that line as part of their sales technique? Or Amazon, for example, having that as their mantra? As buyers we naturally expect the people that we are buying from to be telling us the truth. We don’t need to be told ‘We Never Lie to You’ to encourage us to buy. In fact, even saying such a thing actually makes you think the person saying it has something to hide. Same thing with ‘I’ll be honest with you.’ It makes you feel the person saying it usually isn’t.

I suppose you can see what he is trying to do, coming from a shopping channel environment previously where there was really nothing to lie about, and selling was done in an understated, calm and generally factual manner. He now finds himself in a workplace where he is clearly, as others are, being asked to exaggerate both the value and the quality of the generally low rent goods that he is selling– goods that he probably, along with the rest of them, wouldn’t give house room too. Strange, though, given their obsession with truth provision - they all seem to make the huge mistake, given the Champagne lifestyle at Beer Money Price world that they are working in, of still buying Champagne Goods at Champagne Prices for their own lives. Using as a selling technique, their ‘foolishness’ for wanting trusted names, and quality products in their homes - rather than buying the same £9.99 type tat they want to inflict on the viewers.
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As you say, the more someone claims something, the more you doubt it. There is a time and place, in everyday conversations, for saying "I would never lie to you" or "I'll be honest with you" but saying it ever few minutes on a selly telly channel ain't it.
 
You assume that this is a very well-paid gig for ALL of the presenters on the channel. Some of them, clearly, though, being paid a lot more than others. These are decently remunerated people living comfortable lives. Those lives clearly at odds with their selling strategies of pitching low rent goods at people you assume, who are old, relatively isolated, have low disposable incomes, and know little about online price comparisons and where value really is and where it isn’t. Do they essentially take a view as presenters, that they can say what they like, because the buyers can always send the goods back anyway – so no harm is done whatever is said to encourage a purchase. And when previous versions of this and other shopping channels in general have gone out of business, and sometimes not providing goods that were promised as a result to customers, they just simply get off their rattan. walk away and think it’s nothing to do with them. Then they start up again elsewhere without any thought of what went before. The role they perhaps see as them being simply messengers, rather than having any collective responsibility for what happens after those messages have been imparted to the great unwashed of tat worship.
 
Duke of Cheese said:
Yes, that old tactic. What was he saying last night? He had been all over the company making phone calls and calling in favours, apparently, to get some more of the stock. A cynic might assume they had this stock all along, but release staggered it at best? Of course, I might be wrong, and the presenters do come in hours before their shifts, and start reordering items for their shows. But given the way the channel operates, and the absolute guff it tells people, I am more likely to think that they had a huge existing stock of this product, and didn’t need to order anything in at all. Or if that’s not the case, they have their own buying staff employed to do that kind of role, and don’t use presenters to do it. Dramatic Licence seems to be a required part of the Presenter Modus Operandi Manual on Channel 51…Making it more ‘Theatrical’ for the viewers - rather than with any deliberate intent to ‘deceive’ them. Well, that’s how the Manual probably explains it.
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If anyone believes that I want to know who, as I have some magic beans to sell them ...
 

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